Government Shutdown

[DCT]

15 minutes ago, Reagan said:

 

You think we would miss these people?  I say it's morally wrong to continue having these people employed.  You should also feel the same way.  Think about it, how much more in the government is this going on?!

We just added another 20 billion to bail out the same country while we are firing our citizens and shuttering our doors.  How does this benefit the U.S. at this time?

[thetragichippy]

44 minutes ago, DCT said:

We just added another 20 billion to bail out the same country while we are firing our citizens and shuttering our doors.  How does this benefit the U.S. at this time?

So we just pay 10 people to do the job one person could do?

Private companies can't do that.....

In my job, I better be successful to they will find someone who will be.

Cutting out the fat in the Government is never a bad thing......we finally have a President that understands how a business works.......and while the Government will never be able to run like a business, it is possible to improve how far our tax dollars go

[Boyz N Da Hood]

Any of yall poll? All the polls I've seen show blame for the shutdown is on republicans...! Control congress, yet its the other sides fault lol

[Boyz N Da Hood]

1 hour ago, DCT said:

We just added another 20 billion to bail out the same country while we are firing our citizens and shuttering our doors.  How does this benefit the U.S. at this time?

Argentina first baby 🇦🇷

[Reagan]

1 hour ago, DCT said:

We just added another 20 billion to bail out the same country while we are firing our citizens and shuttering our doors.  How does this benefit the U.S. at this time?

You need to ask the one responsible for the shutdown: Chucky Schumer and the Democrats!  It's my understanding that during a shutdown the President has the right to do what he's doing.  I say we need to do more.  Let these people go to work in the private sector and live under the rules and laws they help create!  

[Reagan]

4 minutes ago, Boyz N Da Hood said:

Any of yall poll? All the polls I've seen show blame for the shutdown is on republicans...! Control congress, yet its the other sides fault lol

It's Schumer's (Democrat) fault.  No debate there.  He's trying to suck up to the woke faction because he doesn't want to get primaried by AOC.  

[DCT]

17 minutes ago, Reagan said:

You need to ask the one responsible for the shutdown: Chucky Schumer and the Democrats!  It's my understanding that during a shutdown the President has the right to do what he's doing.  I say we need to do more.  Let these people go to work in the private sector and live under the rules and laws they help create!  

How does a $40 billion dollar bail out benefit the U.S.?  Does it help US farmers? Is it bringing prices down?

[Reagan]

Just now, DCT said:

How does a $40 billion dollar bail out benefit the U.S.?

Sometimes you have to think long term.  I'd have to see the details.  If you know the details fill us in so we can learn.  I'm not opposed to learning.  

[DCT]

1 minute ago, Reagan said:

Sometimes you have to think long term.  I'd have to see the details.  If you know the details fill us in so we can learn.  I'm not opposed to learning.  

Your President is going at it alone.  No details.  Go figure.  His family may hold the keys.

[Boyz N Da Hood]

7 minutes ago, DCT said:

How does a $40 billion dollar bail out benefit the U.S.?  Does it helping US farmers? Is it bringing prices down?

Good thing is many on the right who aren't yes men are standing up against it.. and of course you have the Twitter ppl just posting what they're told.. 

[baddog]

I’d rather see it go to TV shows for the Taliban or condoms in Iraq.

[DCT]

6 minutes ago, Reagan said:

Sometimes you have to think long term.  I'd have to see the details.  If you know the details fill us in so we can learn.  I'm not opposed to learning.  

Here you go.

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[baddog]

1 minute ago, baddog said:

I’d rather see it go to TV shows for the Taliban or condoms in Iraq.

Here you go.

[thetragichippy]

18 minutes ago, Boyz N Da Hood said:

Any of yall poll? All the polls I've seen show blame for the shutdown is on republicans...! Control congress, yet its the other sides fault lol

We have bi-partisan support on the yes vote in the senate.   I believe 3 Democrats have came over.....

So Republicans and 3 Democrats vote yes to open the Government, the rest of the Democrats vote NO

It takes 60 votes in the house......

[DCT]

8 minutes ago, baddog said:

Here you go.

Of course you would rather see it go toward condoms.   Your words.

U.S. farmers are doing just fine.

[baddog]

5 minutes ago, DCT said:

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Did you even read your own article. It says funding will be pulled if the conservative government moves left. Hey, he could pull it and give it to Ukraine. No one would say anything then. Does that help America?

[baddog]

1 minute ago, DCT said:

Of course you would rather see it go toward condoms.  Your words.

It’s where your USAID packages were sending money. I can see where your mind sits.

[DCT]

Just now, baddog said:

Did you even read your own article. It says funding will be pulled if the conservative government moves left. Hey, he could pull it and give it to Ukraine. No one would say anything then. Does that help America?

He controls the House the Senate and the White House.

[UT alum]

3 hours ago, OlDawg said:

Air traffic controllers in this country aren’t all federal employees. There’s also a good case to be made that ATC’s should be employed by private, non-profit firms that are compensated by the airlines, airport systems, and other users of their services.

The military has personnel that you couldn’t dream of—in numbers that would astound you—that are private contractors. They operate in areas that rarely make the news. If they make the news, someone poached the goat.

Yes. When you confiscate money from the creators, and give it to a government entity to then redistribute, you lose efficiency, and it is a drain on the economy. Period. Zero sum.

Now, how much loss vs. possible payback is an ROI question that is use dependent.

Very few functions that are now civil service/government employees were always that way. The government encroached, and took them over. Followed shortly by the unions to make them almost untouchable.

Most civil service jobs began as private functions.

Nice academic argument. Worker safety and fair pay? Private sector abused the fire out of their responsibilities. If the fair market is so ‘fair”, why were workers compensation and wage laws necessary? Unions would not have needed to organize were workers not abused mercilessly. Why were product safety laws needed? The invisible hand places profit above all else. If mankind was altruistic, that might work. But we’re not. 

[baddog]

Just now, DCT said:

He controls the House the Senate and the White House.

Your comment makes no sense.

[DCT]

Just now, baddog said:

It’s where your USAID packages were sending money. I can see where your mind sits.

Your words.  Your mind. 😂 

[baddog]

Just now, DCT said:

Your words.  Your mind. 😂 

It was your side sending it. Your funding. 😂

[Boyz N Da Hood]

8 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

We have bi-partisan support on the yes vote in the senate.   I believe 3 Democrats have came over.....

So Republicans and 3 Democrats vote yes to open the Government, the rest of the Democrats vote NO

It takes 60 votes in the house......

Have you read everything and agree with what the R's are all voting yes on? Or is it "we just need to open the government and we'll fix this at that point" lol

[DCT]

3 minutes ago, baddog said:

Your comment makes no sense.

I’ll make it simple.  Trump owns this shut down.

[Boyz N Da Hood]

2 minutes ago, DCT said:

I’ll make it simple.  Trump owns this shut down.

Hopefully the ones being let go voted for him!