Big girl Posted 4 hours ago Report Posted 4 hours ago On 7/19/2025 at 4:42 AM, DCT said: On 7/19/2025 at 4:22 AM, DCT said: Wag the dog Quote
Big girl Posted 4 hours ago Report Posted 4 hours ago 17 hours ago, Reagan said: "Article III, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution defines treason against the United States as either levying war against them or giving aid and comfort to their enemies. It also states that a person can only be convicted of treason based on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act or a confession in open court, and Congress has the power to declare the punishment for treason." This levying war, not only war but the courts have used rebellion also, could be with bullets are actions taken by individuals against the US (rebellion) through subterfuge. I would think that what obama and his cronies did to sabotage a Presidency and have attempted coup against a sitting President could possibly defined an act of war. I did a little research. Examples: Based on available records, treason convictions in the U.S. have almost always occurred during or in connection with recognized wars or rebellions that courts treated as equivalent to "levying war." For example: Whiskey Rebellion (1794): Two individuals, John Mitchell and Philip Weigel, were convicted of treason for their roles in an armed uprising against federal tax collection in Pennsylvania. This was not a war with a foreign enemy but an internal rebellion, interpreted as "levying war" against the United States. Both were pardoned by President George Washington. Aaron Burr’s Conspiracy (1807): Burr was tried for treason for allegedly plotting to seize territory and form a separate nation. The Supreme Court, under Chief Justice John Marshall, acquitted Burr, ruling that conspiracy alone did not constitute "levying war" unless there was an actual assemblage of armed forces. This case, though not resulting in a conviction, occurred outside a formal war and clarified that treason requires overt acts, not just planning. Shays’ Rebellion (1786-1787): John Bly and Charles Rose were convicted of treason and hanged for participating in an armed uprising in Massachusetts against state authorities. This was prosecuted under state law, not federal, and occurred before the U.S. Constitution was ratified, but it was considered "levying war" against the state. Thomas Dorr (1844): Dorr was convicted of treason against Rhode Island for leading an armed attempt to overthrow the state government during the Dorr Rebellion, a non-war context involving a dispute over suffrage. He was sentenced to life in prison. John Brown (1859): Brown was convicted of treason against Virginia for his raid on Harpers Ferry, an attempt to incite a slave rebellion. This was prosecuted under state law and occurred in a non-war context, though it was treated as "levying war" against the state. While state-level convictions like those of Dorr and Brown occurred in non-war contexts (rebellions treated as "levying war" against the state), federal treason convictions have consistently been tied to wartime or rebellion scenarios. So, yes, either treason or sedition can be used concerning obama and others. Trump is trying to take the spotlight away from himself Quote
Big girl Posted 4 hours ago Report Posted 4 hours ago On 7/20/2025 at 11:24 AM, baddog said: Already answered by Epstein’s lawyer. Trump is not on any list. I knew it wouldn’t be good enough for the libs. You have trouble with facts. Now, this is a thread about Obama. He committed a treasonous act which you care to overlook. SURPRISE Sure he did. Did you see the AI generated video of Obama getting arrested for treason Quote
thetragichippy Posted 4 hours ago Report Posted 4 hours ago 22 minutes ago, Big girl said: Trump is trying to take the spotlight away from himself Why would he do that? He loves the spotlight. He's been winning in the Supreme Court, in Congress, Democrats has a 19% approval rate (a 19 year low) - he organized a cease fire, he eliminated Iran as a Nuclear threat, The tariffs that everyone thought would tank the market has done the complete opposite and the market has set records.....all while in June Tariff income hit 113 billion for the year,,,,,the most ever.... No wonder the Democrats want to talk about Epstein.....lol LumRaiderFan 1 Quote
baddog Posted 4 hours ago Report Posted 4 hours ago 30 minutes ago, Big girl said: Sure he did. Did you see the AI generated video of Obama getting arrested for treason Why would anyone watch an AI video? Quote
thetragichippy Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Boyz N Da Hood said: 9 years later! Why now? I think we have went over this. This didn't get noticed until 1/2 way through his first term. The Durham report showed some shady stuff, but nothing he thought could he criminal. Then there was 4 years of Biden admin. No one would seriously thought they would investigate Obama when they were busy trying to make Jan 6 worse than 911. Looks like the previous Democrat decided to investigate and founds some pretty damaging emails concerning what Obama knew....... baddog 1 Quote
baddog Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago 6 minutes ago, thetragichippy said: I think we have went over this. This didn't get noticed until 1/2 way through his first term. The Durham report showed some shady stuff, but nothing he thought could he criminal. Then there was 4 years of Biden admin. No one would seriously thought they would investigate Obama when they were busy trying to make Jan 6 worse than 911. Looks like the previous Democrat decided to investigate and founds some pretty damaging emails concerning what Obama knew....... I mentioned Hillary’s 33,000 e-mails earlier and look at this…..lmao This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Quote
Boyz N Da Hood Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago 17 minutes ago, thetragichippy said: I think we have went over this. This didn't get noticed until 1/2 way through his first term. The Durham report showed some shady stuff, but nothing he thought could he criminal. Then there was 4 years of Biden admin. No one would seriously thought they would investigate Obama when they were busy trying to make Jan 6 worse than 911. Looks like the previous Democrat decided to investigate and founds some pretty damaging emails concerning what Obama knew....... Ok cool! Can't wait to see what this brings 🍿 Quote
baddog Posted 2 hours ago Report Posted 2 hours ago Just visited cnn home page and not single article on Obama…..and some people call that journalism. What a joke. Quote
Big girl Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago 2 hours ago, thetragichippy said: Why would he do that? He loves the spotlight. He's been winning in the Supreme Court, in Congress, Democrats has a 19% approval rate (a 19 year low) - he organized a cease fire, he eliminated Iran as a Nuclear threat, The tariffs that everyone thought would tank the market has done the complete opposite and the market has set records.....all while in June Tariff income hit 113 billion for the year,,,,,the most ever.... No wonder the Democrats want to talk about Epstein.....lol Because he is trying to get people to forget about the Epstein case. Quote
Big girl Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, Boyz N Da Hood said: Ok cool! Can't wait to see what this brings 🍿 Nothing. Trump is wagging the dog, so that he can get the spotlight off of himself. He is pathetic Quote
baddog Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago 5 minutes ago, Big girl said: Nothing. Trump is wagging the dog, so that he can get the spotlight off of himself. He is pathetic What are you talking about? This wasn’t on cnn so you must have visited Fox. What if Trump did this to Obama? It would be earth shattering as it should be. You people kill me. Unthinking robots. Tell me again what Obama did for black people? Quote
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