Nederland Bond PASSES!!!!

[Bigdog]

2 hours ago, Reagan said:

So, you are saying that the education right now in Nederland is bad?

no,  but the buildings are.  To help the teachers to do their job they need a environment that is conducive to learning,  not shoved into overcrowded rooms.

[CardinalBacker]

7 hours ago, bigdog said:

no,  but the buildings are.  To help the teachers to do their job they need a environment that is conducive to learning,  not shoved into overcrowded rooms.

It’s just crazy how they’re all overcrowded when there hasn’t been any growth for years... 

[Reagan]

8 hours ago, CardinalBacker said:

It’s just crazy how they’re all overcrowded when there hasn’t been any growth for years... 

Just another talking point.  I'm sure something else Bob Meeks told them to stress.  But, if it's true, it hasn't affected the quality of the educational system in Nederland.  It's excellent now and will continue to be excellent when/if this massive bond fails. 

[Reagan]

Facts don't care about your feelings!

[Bigdog]

16 hours ago, CardinalBacker said:

It’s just crazy how they’re all overcrowded when there hasn’t been any growth for years... 

A misconception.  Just because the city’s population isn’t showing growth doesn’t mean that the ISD isn’t growing.  Nederland ISD extends outside the city limits.  Most of the growth has been along Spurlock and in Beauxart Garden.  But of course Klein fails to mention that because it doesn’t fit his narrative.

[CardinalBacker]

2 hours ago, bigdog said:

A misconception.  Just because the city’s population isn’t showing growth doesn’t mean that the ISD isn’t growing.  Nederland ISD extends outside the city limits.  Most of the growth has been along Spurlock and in Beauxart Garden.  But of course Klein fails to mention that because it doesn’t fit his narrative.

I was talking enrollment, not population. 

[Reagan]

11 hours ago, bigdog said:

A misconception.  Just because the city’s population isn’t showing growth doesn’t mean that the ISD isn’t growing.  Nederland ISD extends outside the city limits.  Most of the growth has been along Spurlock and in Beauxart Garden.  But of course Klein fails to mention that because it doesn’t fit his narrative.

If we are growing so much, then why are we still at the 5A level?  PN-G with their bonds hasn't brought any new student increase in students.  They are still sitting at the 5A level.  And what narrative is Klein trying to push?  If you are talking about the student growth, well apparently it's really not there to justify putting us in debt to the tune of $156,000,000!

[mat]

The state regularly changes education requirements which affects facility needs. The teacher to student ration requirements have changed over the year resulting in more space needed. Additional required special needs or programs also contribute to the need for more space. It's not always about population growth.

[Bigdog]

6 hours ago, Reagan said:

If we are growing so much, then why are we still at the 5A level?  PN-G with their bonds hasn't brought any new student increase in students.  They are still sitting at the 5A level.  And what narrative is Klein trying to push?  If you are talking about the student growth, well apparently it's really not there to justify putting us in debt to the tune of $156,000,000!

The division numbers are adjusted every two years and almost always go up especially with some of these super schools such as Allen and Katy that have over 5000 kids in the high school alone.  Both schools will probably stay 5A for the foreseeable future due to that even with growth. Like I said drive around and open your eyes to the building being done; and not just inside the city limits.  The areas zoned to Helena and CO Wilson are where the most growth is and that will continue for some time.

[pdawg119]

1 hour ago, bigdog said:

The division numbers are adjusted every two years and almost always go up especially with some of these super schools such as Allen and Katy that have over 5000 kids in the high school alone.  Both schools will probably stay 5A for the foreseeable future due to that even with growth. Like I said drive around and open your eyes to the building being done; and not just inside the city limits.  The areas zoned to Helena and CO Wilson are where the most growth is and that will continue for some time.

Not to mention new schools being built at the 6A level like Conroe Grand Oaks, Cy-Park, Bridgeland, and Klein Cain

[nativetransplant]

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[Reagan]

The pro-bond folks must be in full panic mode.  I have heard that they have been stealing anti-bond signs.  Now I know for a fact they are.  A couple i have seen around the city are "no longer" there.   I think the "disappeared" yesterday.  The pressure is building!  Love it!

[prepballfan]

2 hours ago, Reagan said:

The pro-bond folks must be in full panic mode.  I have heard that they have been stealing anti-bond signs.  Now I know for a fact they are.  A couple i have seen around the city are "no longer" there.   I think the "disappeared" yesterday.  The pressure is building!  Love it!

Could people have changed their minds?

[CardinalBacker]

46 minutes ago, prepballfan said:

Could people have changed their minds?

About whether or not to steal signs? Dunno. 

Do you have a problem with using taxpayer funds to pay for signs promoting the bond issue?

[KABrother]

5 hours ago, Reagan said:

The pro-bond folks must be in full panic mode.  I have heard that they have been stealing anti-bond signs.  Now I know for a fact they are.  A couple i have seen around the city are "no longer" there.   I think the "disappeared" yesterday.  The pressure is building!  Love it!

I guess the “no” crowd was in full panic mode when “yes” signs were being stolen before “no” signs were even ordered...

[prepballfan]

2 hours ago, CardinalBacker said:

About whether or not to steal signs? Dunno. 

Do you have a problem with using taxpayer funds to pay for signs promoting the bond issue?

Legitimate question

[WOSgrad]

2 hours ago, CardinalBacker said:

About whether or not to steal signs? Dunno. 

Do you have a problem with using taxpayer funds to pay for signs promoting the bond issue?

Legit question, is that happening?

 

[Reagan]

I wonder if the pro-bond crowd is telling their children that when they become adults that they will also be paying for the debt of this massive bond if/when it passes?

[Reagan]

2 hours ago, KABrother said:

I guess the “no” crowd was in full panic mode when “yes” signs were being stolen before “no” signs were even ordered...

[prepballfan]

1 hour ago, Reagan said:

I wonder if the pro-bond crowd is telling their children that when they become adults that they will also be paying for the debt of this massive bond if/when it passes?

Arw we speaking of kids in the school now?

[mat]

5 hours ago, CardinalBacker said:

About whether or not to steal signs? Dunno. 

Do you have a problem with using taxpayer funds to pay for signs promoting the bond issue?

I think that's illegal.

[Reagan]

25 minutes ago, prepballfan said:

Arw we speaking of kids in the school now?

Yes, if they stay in Nederland.

[WOSgrad]

54 minutes ago, mat said:

I think that's illegal.

That is why I asked if it happening, because it is indeed illegal.  Nederland ISD personnel in their official capacities, are not allowed to advocate pro or con regarding the bond issue.  Now, teachers in their off time, can engage in debate.  But a school district paying for the printing signs such as placards, yard signs, etc. to be distributed does cross that legal line.

[KABrother]

49 minutes ago, WOSgrad said:

That is why I asked if it happening, because it is indeed illegal.  Nederland ISD personnel in their official capacities, are not allowed to advocate pro or con regarding the bond issue.  Now, teachers in their off time, can engage in debate.  But a school district paying for the printing signs such as placards, yard signs, etc. to be distributed does cross that legal line.

I believe what he is referring to is the signs put at each school and football stadium that details what is proposed at each location.  These signs do not advocate for or against the bond and are informational only.

[WOSgrad]

8 minutes ago, KABrother said:

I believe what he is referring to is the signs put at each school and football stadium that details what is proposed at each location.  These signs do not advocate for or against the bond and are informational only.

That is okay.