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I believe Charlie Strong will eventually be recognized as one of the greatest coaches' in the history of college football. He is now on center stage and will prove he is the man of steal! All the doubters will be proven wrong. No one really doubts him, they only hope for the worse, but they fear the reckoning.
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I believe Charlie Strong will eventually be recognized as one of the greatest coaches' in the history of college football. He is now on center stage and will prove he is the man of steal! All the doubters will be proven wrong. No one really doubts him, they only hope for the worse, but they fear the reckoning.

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I believe Charlie Strong will eventually be recognized as one of the greatest coaches' in the history of college football. He is now on center stage and will prove he is the man of steal! All the doubters will be proven wrong. No one really doubts him, they only hope for the worse, but they fear the reckoning.

As I have stated I think that Coach Strong was a good hire for Texas.

 

But to state that he will be "recognized as on of the greatest coaches in the history of college football" is a HUGE statement and little to premature.  

 

Will he turn Texas around - quite likely;   Will he be one of the  greatest Coaches of all time - Lets come back in say 10 years and discuss that issue.  

 

We are in a different environment then we were 30 - 50 years ago and all teams have a very hard time staying on top for extended periods of time - Alabama being the one of the notable exceptions lately.  Texas 20 - 30 - 50 years ago had a strangle hold on the best players in Texas and in a lot of cases around the US but that has narrowed lately with A&M, Baylor and Oklahoma all with their hands in the pot.  Also, facilities of the schools competing with Texas have also gotten better and are now if not equal to Texas's facilities they are real close so the environment has gotten better elsewhere as well.  

 

So what this all means is that the playing field has leveled a lot for other teams since the Texas "hay days" and Texas might just find if harder to stay on top year in and year out like the "good ole days".

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As I have stated I think that Coach Strong was a good hire for Texas.
 
But to state that he will be "recognized as on of the greatest coaches in the history of college football" is a HUGE statement and little to premature.  
 
Will he turn Texas around - quite likely;   Will he be one of the  greatest Coaches of all time - Lets come back in say 10 years and discuss that issue.  
 
We are in a different environment then we were 30 - 50 years ago and all teams have a very hard time staying on top for extended periods of time - Alabama being the one of the notable exceptions lately.  Texas 20 - 30 - 50 years ago had a strangle hold on the best players in Texas and in a lot of cases around the US but that has narrowed lately with A&M, Baylor and Oklahoma all with their hands in the pot.  Also, facilities of the schools competing with Texas have also gotten better and are now if not equal to Texas's facilities they are real close so the environment has gotten better elsewhere as well.  
 
So what this all means is that the playing field has leveled a lot for other teams since the Texas "hay days" and Texas might just find if harder to stay on top year in and year out like the "good ole days".

I'm going out on a limb. I'm confident. And yes, lets discuss this in ten years.
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Ten years from now they'll be jumping on the bandwagon. Or just in a deep state of depression. I hear there's pills for that. Seek medical help by all means if necessary. I could be wrong, not likely, you don't need a crystal ball. The writing is on the wall. But just like everyone else, it's only my opinion. I'm just extremely confident in Coach Strongs ability and the University of Texas staff. The Texas Longhorn Empire is on the immediate horizon. Get on the bus, or get ran over by it!!!
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I think that what Mack Brown did from 1998 - 2009 will be hard to duplicate (119 Wins and 27 Losses) with 2 NC games and 1 championships.

 

Mack Brown was a good Coach but I have not heard many people put him in the class of being  one of the "Best Ever" - those are tough shoes to fill - but as you state we will see.

 

Quit frankly in 10 years I will have forgotten this thread - please remind me if I am still around.  

 

As I think I stated I think that the new world of college football that we now live in dynasties will be hard to build and harder to maintain for all teams.  Texas fans have just not accepted that they cannot get every quality athlete in the area anymore - we will have to wait and see if Coach Strong can get that edge back - I am doubtful that he can get the year in and year out top 5 classes that Mack Brown was able to get - not because of him personally just think it will be tough for any team to pull off.

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I think that what Mack Brown did from 1998 - 2009 will be hard to duplicate (119 Wins and 27 Losses) with 2 NC games and 1 championships.
 
Mack Brown was a good Coach but I have not heard many people put him in the class of being  one of the "Best Ever" - those are tough shoes to fill - but as you state we will see.
 
Quit frankly in 10 years I will have forgotten this thread - please remind me if I am still around.  
 
As I think I stated I think that the new world of college football that we now live in dynasties will be hard to build and harder to maintain for all teams.  Texas fans have just not accepted that they cannot get every quality athlete in the area anymore - we will have to wait and see if Coach Strong can get that edge back - I am doubtful that he can get the year in and year out top 5 classes that Mack Brown was able to get - not because of him personally just think it will be tough for any team to pull off.

I agree with you, most schools can't get that top 5 recruiting class year in and year out. But unlike you, I believe Charlie Strong is in a very unique situation. And I also believe he, himself is a unique coach as well. I believe alot of young men from all over this great nation wants to play for him. After he proves that he can win at Texas, which may take 1-2 years. Texas will again have that strangle hold you spoke of on recruiting once again. Matter of fact he's going to choke the rest of the nation out. Forgive me if my confidence sounds like arrogance. I just believe in the man and University of Texas.
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Maybe the UT fans could stand the whole game to indicate their willingness to enter the game if needed. That seems to have translated into wins for other programs.

 

Here's my idea-Win some games and the fans will get excited.

 

 

 

 

when they were winning at a rapid rate it was still sometimes quiet in that place, cameras scanning the crowd with 2/3's sitting down.

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This seems to be part of the whole "culture" stigma that has surrounded the University.  I am as guilty as anyone; I pay for my seats at DKR each year, and I don't really like standing up for the whole darn game.  I think the stadium can be as loud as any and have heard it get that way many, many times.  Much more important is the culture surrounding the team.  I don't believe that can be changed overnight.  However, I will say that based on the steps and rules he has implemented, Coach Strong is doing his best to do just that.  I think you see a different level of toughness from the start next year.  And 3-4 years from now you may just see the meanest group of Horns that have taken the field in a long, long time.

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This isn't going to end well for Chuck and the Stronghorns.

http://www.mystatesman.com/news/sports/college-football/texas-strong-lays-out-his-goals-vision-for-longhor/ndW6Z/?icmp=statesman_internallink_invitationbox_apr2013_statesmanstubtomystatesmanpremium


Every high school football player who visits Texas this weekend as part of the Longhorns’ “junior day” recruiting weekend should understand what new coach Charlie Strong is looking for.

“I want smart guys. I want tough guys. And I want dependable guys,” Strong told the American-Statesman this week, detailing his recruiting philosophy. “Smart, tough, dependable. That’s what I’m looking for.

“Is he going to be able to learn what we ask him to do? Is he going to be able to go across campus, and will he be successful academically here?” Strong added. “Is he tough? When we talk about toughness, is he going to go through this program where it’s a mental game, a physical game? Can he withstand that?”

Then, Strong reiterated his final point, which speaks to a player’s character.

“Just look at the attention you get here,” Strong said. “Is he a guy that once the lights turn off, is he a guy that we can really depend on?”

Strong touched on a number of key recruiting points as his staff prepares to host 75-100 players. Mack Brown assembled most of Texas’ 2014 recruiting class. The 2015 class is all on Strong.

Strong outlined how his coaching staff evaluates players. First, new director of player personnel Mike Giglio assembles the information and video. Then the player file is turned over to the assistant coach responsible for that player’s hometown.

If the first assistant coach likes what he sees, he goes to that player’s position coach. If the position coach likes what he sees, it’s on to the offensive or defensive coordinator. If the coordinator gets excited, all three coaches go to Strong for an in-depth film session.

If Strong gives the final nod of approval, the head coach himself makes the call to offer a scholarship.

So when a player is offered a scholarship, that means four Texas coaches gave a thumb’s up.

“I want enough eyes on that guy so that if he ends up being a bad player, it doesn’t fall back on (one staff member),” Strong said.
•Brown routinely used junior days to reel in numerous new commitments. Texas fans shouldn’t necessarily expect the same from Strong.

Strong said he will accept an early commitment from a high school junior in certain cases. But he still wants to see some senior film on that player, too. That player must hold up his end of the bargain, Strong said.

In some cases, the player makes an early commitment and essentially shuts down on his high school coach, Strong said. The player gains weight, maybe doesn’t work out as hard and stops developing.

“If I do take one early, I’m going to let him come up with his parents and his high school coach, and we sit down and talk about it,” Strong said. “Everybody is in agreement that he’s going back to that high school and be the best player that he can be. Don’t worry about the University of Texas, because No. 1, you’re not here yet.”

Early commitments are somewhat of a phenomenon in this part of the country, Strong said. In the SEC and ACC, players usually wait until their senior years to commit.

“Usually, the kids on that side of the Mississippi, that’s what they do,” Strong said. “Now, you take this side, they all want to commit early. But where are all the championships being won right now? Let’s not be in a hurry to say, ‘Let’s go take this kid.’ ”

“Never will we ever go behind the coach’s back to offer a young man. But if he says, ‘No, coach, he’s not ready yet,’ then I’m going to take that to heart and say, ‘OK, coach, you call us when he’s ready.’

Coaches have the right to essentially cut a player they deem unfit for their program, although most don’t because of the PR backlash it causes.

Strong said his players can lose their scholarship if they break one of his five core values — honesty, treating women with respect, no drugs, no stealing and no guns — or by becoming academically ineligible or by breaking university rules that lead to expulsion.

“I don’t want to ever be in the business where we take a kid and it doesn’t work out in the second year and we … that’s our fault,” Strong said. “If that happens, that’s on us. At the end of the day, you’ve got to get him an education. We saw him. We thought he was a good player.”

“Mainly, I’d like to eyeball them and I want to sit down and talk to them, if we think these guys are one of the guys,” Strong said. “I want to see what his goals are, what he’s looking for in a school and see what his parents are thinking.”
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