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I have mentioned this before but bullets13 has been on patrol with me a few times. In one case we had a disturbance involving a large party at night playing music. The group was given a warning to quiet down so people could sleep or not be bothered in their homes. But…. they weren’t having any of it. They cranked it back up soon after the police left and not even in the back yard. It was in the front yard near the street. So the police got called again. The police were not required to give a warning the first time. They could have walked up, put handcuffs on the responsible person (usually the owner) and brought him to the County Jail. The same is true in the second call. But… the officers responding said that they would write the owner a citation and he would have two weeks to determine if he wanted a jury trial, simply pay the fine or whatever. The crowd of about 10-15 people didn’t like that option, remembering that only the owner was going to get a citation. The officers, including me, practically begged the guy to just sign the citation, turn off the loud music and we would leave. Nope. They determined that it was better to run and then fight. Even after we got a couple of people in custody and thought it was over, another person stepped up and wanted some more. Again given a warning, back away, get out of the road and let it go. Nope. He wanted to tell the officers no, kind of advanced toward the officers and wouldn’t back away. So… to the ground he went with more serious criminal charges that a citation. The owner not only was arrested for the disturbance but also Evading Detention and Resisting Arrest. He went from being to sign a citation for a fine only ($500 max) and with the right to fight it in court to two charges that could carry up to a year in jail and or up to a $4,000 fine. As I got back in my patrol unit bullets13 said something like, I saw the whole thing and y’all did everything you could to diffuse the situation. The people cause that, not the police. This is played out over and over again many times every day in this country. In this case the police could have lawfully made an arrest on the first call for service. Even on return the officer tried to handle it with paperwork. They people chose other than a peaceful option, not the police. This involved a racial minority and the only point of that is that even with this on video, some people would still make it an issue of race and claim that the police were wrong.

Yep. But… but… but… Facebook and YouTube says I don’t have to!! Uhhhhh…. Yes, you do. On maybe a funny note, being involved in perhaps 2,500 arrests, I have only read or heard the Miranda warning a handful of times. There usually is no point in doing so. On at least one occasion that I can remember (although probably others) I arrested a guy who said something like, “I have charges on you!! You didn’t read me my rights!”. Nope and I am not going to!!! File your charges. Alas, I didn’t go to jail. Rights are only required if 1. A person is in custody AND 2. the person is being interrogated. I rarely asked questions from a person arrested. If he wants to sit back and run his mouth on camera while not answering any questions, let him. I love it when without being asked, they tell about the crime and the scene. But if an officer doesn’t read Miranda… you don’t get to file criminal charges. 🤣

Oh yeah, if you are talking about an off duty officer in Orange (not to re-litigate that case), I read the something like 20+ witness statements and a majority (all but a couple) say that it was more than words. Also, as the topic of this thread about complying, the officer in Orange was cleared most likely due to those witness statements. Just like the false claims (completely bogus) of Michael Brown and “hands up, don’t shoot”… complying in 99.999% (probably more) of cases will keep a person alive.

Which goes to the OP. Do what you are told. In this video the officer was polite and professional for quite a while. The guy should have simply complied. He refused and then resisted arrest. The Facebook, YouTube, Google lawyers get people killed. That is why I posted Supreme Court cases. When the Supreme Court looks at a man having a diabetic crisis and the cops kind of kick the crap out of him (and I think broke his foot) and unanimously say… oh well, he should have complied!….. people should heed that warning.

On the use of force, according to SCOTUS it doesn’t matter what the totality of circumstances are when determining if an officer was justified in any use of force situation. In other words it doesn’t matter what actually happened but it matters what a reasonable officer would believe at that moment. It is the term “objective reasonableness”. An officer has to make a split second decision and what a situation reasonably appeared to be matters. If it later turned out to be incorrect, the officer will still likely be cleared. In the main case (Graham)the police kind of roughed up a guy who turned out to be completely innocent and in fact was having a medical crisis. The SCOTUS ruled 9-0 that what was later (like a few moments later) discovered didn’t matter, only what a reasonable officer would believe.

I guess that for most people this will not be an issue, but… SCOTUS has ruled that it doesn’t violate the Fourth Amendment guarantee against unreasonable searches and seizures for a police officer to order the driver from a vehicle with no cause whatsoever. That is for the driver who is likely being detained for a crime, usually minor crime like a traffic citation. The passenger though probably has not been detained for a crime and is sort of a victim of circumstances due to being in a vehicle where the driver was stopped. In such a case SCOTUS has ruled that the passenger(s) can be ordered from the vehicle with no justification required. That’s right folks. The SCOTUS has said that anyone in the vehicle can be ordered from the vehicle with no jurisdiction required and it not violate the Fourth Amendment. A state can be more restricted and give additional rights but I can not seen any Texas Court of Criminal Appeals case that restricts an officer from ordering any person from a vehicle.

The ignorance of the crap put out on the internet….. Some more of the sovereign man nonsense. There is a claim of multiple court ruling that say a driver’s license is not needed unless driving a commercial vehicle, the police can’t force me out of my car and blah blah….. Youtube and Facebook lawyers….

I know that covid is real. I believe it was from a lab in China. Intentionally released? I don’t know. I used to think that the vaccine had issues (and still do) but it was pushed by many people (not the creators like Pfizer) as a necessity for a very problematic disease. Now I think it’s nothing but a continuing money scheme. I have heard a few radio commercials going back to late January. They have said, if you have not had a booster since September, you aren’t covered and need the update. Okay, so now (going back to January) if you haven’t had a booster in the last 4-5 months….. you really need to come on it!!! What next, every 12 weeks? So maybe Fauci had his grubby hands in it from the beginning, maybe it was a complete accident or whatever. However it started, it has become a created windfall for a lot of people to become rich and they are pushing the vaccines like cigarette commercials before they were made illegal. I also think that many in the health community are unwitting and unwilling pawns in the scheme. The covid vaccine du jour has become a huge industry.

Sure, just as soon as anyone produces any evidence. I wish they would at least turn the names over to a federal law enforcement agency that could be trusted but I am not sure that exists at the moment. Prosecute every single person no matter who it is. But for now….. Just as soon as anyone produces any evidence.

It is with humor that you are going against the mantra of the left and invoking capitalism.

In another sports/hunting forum, each year a guy posts the day by day events in Texas history at this time of the year. Tomorrow morning, March 4…. Will be day 11.

I bowled 3 leagues a week one time… 2 At the same time. A guy had dropped out of a team in another league and I was already bowling league at the same time. I bowled six games running back-and-forth between lanes.

When I saw her talking about reducing the homicide rate….. Liberal math. Start at 500 a year, increase each year and by the third year it reaches 800. Then it goes down to 700 in the fourth year and you claim the 40% increase in murders from when you took office is actually a “reduction”. It is the same math of gasoline going from $2 a gallon, to $4.50 and when it comes back down to $3, claim to have reduced gasoline prices. Us simple minded people think from $2 to $3 is a 50% increase. Little did we know that from $2 to $4.50 to $3 is a33% reduction.

And there are some great hotdogs out there. You just have to get away from Bar S and Oscar Mayer.

Nothing left but the squeal…..

I don’t watch Fox News and I haven’t made any comments about stolen elections. What is sad if that you think it matters. I notice that you didn’t address what I said. Do you think that people really vote by what a media executive thinks or says? I realize that people in forums try to light a fire just to see if someone will respond by throwing gasoline on the flames but you are delusional if you think someone is going to change who he/she supports because of a media owner. Like, “Gee, I was completely against gun control but if a guy named Rupert Murdoch lied, I am turning all of my guns in!”. Yeah….. people are going to change their beliefs because of a guy they probably never even heard of made a comment.

What is it that Murdoch supposedly admitted to lying about? What does any of it have to do with political stances? Are people who are for closing the border, less welfare, ending most gun possession laws, not raising taxes, etc., going to feel or vote differently because of Murdoch?

When she won in 2019 one of the candidates against her was a White male and former Obama Chief of Staff and also a US Commerce Secretary under Bill Clinton, Bill Daley. Those are pretty lofty credentials yet Lightfoot made it to the runoff while eliminating Daley. The citizens of Chicago weren’t racists and sexists then. The moment she lost, those same people who voted for her 4 years ago were suddenly transformed into prejudiced people. It is the ever built in excuse. If I didn’t succeed, it is because….

Unless?

So the same message since 1963….

Wait… that was 3 in 1 oil.

The company like in Beaumont? … or the oil my grandfather always had on hand?

No telling how it will play out but can a president cancel a signed contract?

No one in this conversation has remotely made such a claim. You know that you didn’t read that. Personally, it depends on the person. Generally speaking, obviously the answer is no. A kiss was not the accusation however. It was absolutely equating a kiss with sexual assault which is the legal terminology for rap-e. I guess if a guy shoves another with no injuries, it should be investigated as a murder? “You touched me so I am filing charges for Murder!”. An offense contact is a crime. It is typically the lowest level of a misdemeanor or the equivalent of a traffic citation. It usually has a 1-3 years as a statute of limitations. In Texas an unwanted kiss carries up to a $500 fine and a person has two years to file the charges. Great, accuse Kavanaugh of that allegation, which the time to file charges passed four decades ago. That would not gain much attention so they upped the allegation even though Ford made no allegation of having sex. It was….. he wanted to. I saw an article a couple of days ago about this recent claim and it is still being reported as an accused sexual assault. Here is an article from National Public Radio and a quote from early in the article. Notice that it claims an allegation of sexual assault. New York Times reporters Robin Pogrebin and Kate Kelly, who wrote the essay, covered Kavanaugh's contentious 2018 confirmation hearings, in which Christine Blasey Ford alleged that he had sexually assaulted her at a house party when they were both teenagers. [Hidden Content] So you’re okay with grabbing a girl, kissing her and pulling on her dress but she runs away and having that accused as sexual assault? There was no accusation even by Ford of them having sex yet he was accused in the media and US Senate of just that. Here is a USAToday article and the opening paragraph. It shows the Kavanaugh confirmation postponement for a week so the FBI could investigate “a sexual assault”. WASHINGTON – Senate Republicans were forced Friday to delay Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh's confirmation so the FBI can investigate allegations of sexual assault from more than 30 years ago. [Hidden Content]

A late middle aged couple are in bed one night. Most of the romance has gone out of their lives. But….. as the woman has her back to her husband about to go to sleep, he ever so lightly starts running his hands over her shoulders. Then he runs his hand along her side and then over her stomach. As she is starting to feel feisty for the first time in a long time, he slides down between her legs. Then it stopped. She turned over and asked, “Why did you stop!?” He said, “I found the remote”. 🤔