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I've seen colmesneil kids and watched colmesneil play football last year. If they get a coach dedicated to building up the program they will be just fine. 

On January 26, 2016 at 0:07 PM, oldschool2 said:

True, every head coach get's their first head coaching job at some point.  But you're wrong if you think they'll find somebody truly committed to building.  This is a stepping stone to the fullest.  You're also wrong if you think you have to have head coaching experience to get a good head job.  Why would you risk taking a crappy job just to say you've been a head coach?.. unless you're young (don't know any better) or bad.  I was told by very good sources that the previous AD's got zero support from admin, and once you start losing everybody knows you get zero support from the community.

This is a no win situation.  Head Coach experience or not..  He will make no money, get to hire no coaches, get no new facilities, have no support, and WILL NOT WIN.  Why on earth would anyone put themselves through that?

My response was to this. WILL NOT WIN. You didn't say state neither did I. I brought up Waskom because the same was said about that place and I pointed out what they did with a rookie head coach. I believe you know coaching is a bigger part than you want to let on but just have some sort of grudge against colmesneil. I never said state but your argument was Waskom only did what they did because of players which I pointed out was wrong. 

He lost three or four kids last year that were studs and only had one left. I thought he wouldnt do it again and I was wrong. They were even better this year than last beating Center. I don't think you have the talent year in and year out to win state championships at about any school but good coaching can keep you in a winning season even with much less talent. It takes a special combination of athletes and coaching to win titles. Rarely the most talented team wins state. 

i wasn't comparing Waskom and colmesneil. You said Waskom won state because of one guy and at that level one guy is all you need. I was pointing out that is wrong. One guy goes a long way but doesn't win state. That's when I brought shock Linwood into it and compared his season with chan amie from waskoms. Who are in the same district. Talent in that case didn't go the whole way. And part of coaching is building programs up and putting kids in the right position to be successful. The Waskom coach didn't do it over night. He developed his players for their entire high school career before they won state. Something a coach hadn't done before him. He didn't just walk in and all of a sudden they had studs walking the halls. He developed them for years. That makes a great coach. 

1 hour ago, oldschool2 said:

Lets do this...you hand pick 25 football coaches from anywhere in the country, including college and pro...and let them coach at Colmesneil High School with the kids they had this last year.  I'll let my 4 year old granddaughter be head coach at Bremond with the current coaches they have on staff, and the players they had this year.

Both get 16 weeks to prepare...How do you think it's going to go?  Because I know how it's going to go...It will be a true testament to how much or little you think coaching truly matters. 

I would agree with you but then we would both be wrong. 

You said current coaching staff. What are they not real coaches? I am sure they have great coaches other than the AD on staff. So they would still have good coaching. Put two teams that are relative in skill level and I take the better coaching staff everytime. There is a reason Nick Saban and Urban Meyer win championships and at multiple schools. Not on talent alone.

Coaching Matters!

Well how bout this. Waskom and Linden Kildare were in the same district so yeah the numbers were comparable. I also disagree that waskom would have done what they did without that coach. If he was the coach at colmesneil they would win. Probably not a state title I wont argue that but they would win more games and be a lot more competitive.... 

Coaching Matters!

After some looking the starting quarterback from Texas recruited by Mack Brown went 1-9 his senior year. Graylond Arnold headed to Baylor 2-8 senior year. Shock Linwood 5-5 none made playoffs senior year.

1 hour ago, oldschool2 said:

Apparently you're unaware of how much impact a player of that caliber can make in a small school.  Especially one that's in the backfield.  Well let me clarify...it...literally...is the difference between winning state championships and not winning them.

And it looks like your reading comprehension needs some work. I said they would still be very good. May not win state but still very good. I have seen many big time D1 commits at the TB and QB position at small schools that don't win state or even make it three rounds deep. Shock Linwood breaking records at Baylor as a TB had a 5 and 5 season his senior year. POINT PROVEN. Tyron Swoopes, Traylon Shead, The Baylor kid from kountze none won State Championships.

To clarify I am not saying colmesneil has any shot at winning state but pointing out how far good coaching goes even at traditionally bad football programs. 

With the exception of number 15 this past year they all looked like any other team in the state no other studs at all. And take him off the team and they are still very good. I don't know that they win state but still very good. 

Hmm Waskom was never supposed to be a good job either and he was a "Rookie Coach" even soccer coach I think. Look where they are. And to say WILL NOT WIN is crazy. Coaching goes a long way especially at that level.

Everyone is listening to uncle pig way to much. The position is AD/HFC supe has not taken AD role. Made playoffs this past year in football so wrong again. Whether they have talent or not I have no clue. But I wouldnt put much faith in what Uncle pig says because if you believe him Mike Thomas would have every football job in east Texas.

Cant believe no one is talking about Randy Rowe from Livingston on the list. Thats someone who can get the job done

wouldnt doubt it a bit.

Cleveland VS Coldspring both undefeated and are playing for the district championship.

This will be a great game.

Speaking of this bout 2 years ago i saw a mom jump over the fence at a friday nite football game and ran up to the coach a pimpd slaped him b/c he pulled her son out then she ran to jump over the fence and got caught up in the fence and busted her butt... it was soooooooo funny

Dont yall all know the mothers all know more than the coaches... ALWAYS.

Great game not sure. Coldsprings by a last second trick play.

Lets get something straight. Cleveland is on a role. The possibility of Splendora winning out is very slim. The end result is going to be Cleveland, Coldsprings, and then Huffman.

   Cleveland will win out. Coldsprings will lose to Cleveland. Huffman received a loss to both of those opponents and will win out. So that is merely my opinion but it is more than likely to happen.

That is the best prediction i have seen on here yet. I havent seen huffman play but as weak as the other teams are i say it looks good.

I picked coldsprings last year to win it and didnt even believe it would be close and i was wrong. But I also believe last year Splendora was a lot better. Thats why i am going to say again Coldsprings by a lot.

just like the majority of other schools, talent comes in cycles, and right now the talent level isnt the highest, plus i hear they have had the injury bug.  If you recall the class of 2006 had some tremendous football talent in it, 2 of which are starting on saturdays now, and several more 1st team all-district players in a dang good district.  Given time and proper support the program can get turned back around.

Give time and support? Like patience? Ya it doesnt look like they know what that is.