hornets85
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Which player from the schools do you think is going to have a break out year that no one is expecting to???
LCM- almost anybody that was on the bench last year with moody gone
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The big question now is how much longer will the police be up at school. If they are concerned that if they do their sworn duty to up hold the law and the school will not back them. Why would they want to work off duty at school events. What message is the school sending to the students that this behavior will be ok and nothing will happen. Today, I heard thru a reliable scource that students where talking back to staff. The students would than say their is nothing you can do to me so who cares. It is time for the school to start backing the teachers and staff. They need to say these are the rules and this is the punishment for your actions and follow thru with what they say will happen. Don't let them off for good behavior. The school admin sent a clear message Friday when they wore black clothes in support of the student. That is you can attack a cop and the admin will support you not the law.
According to my kids that attend the school, this did in fact happen.
And that is why the students are taking over the school how many teachers will live at the end of this year?
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The big question now is how much longer will the police be up at school. If they are concerned that if they do their sworn duty to up hold the law and the school will not back them. Why would they want to work off duty at school events. What message is the school sending to the students that this behavior will be ok and nothing will happen. Today, I heard thru a reliable scource that students where talking back to staff. The students would than say their is nothing you can do to me so who cares. It is time for the school to start backing the teachers and staff. They need to say these are the rules and this is the punishment for your actions and follow thru with what they say will happen. Don't let them off for good behavior. The school admin sent a clear message Friday when they wore black clothes in support of the student. That is you can attack a cop and the admin will support you not the law.
The truth will eventually come out. However, this deputy in question has high character and integrity and I do not think he will be found at fault in this situation.
I don't think Merritt will let it happen either. He saounds like he supports his people and I would say he has already seen the video and the deputy was in the right.
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yea he could have had 7th and 8th graders playing varsity
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The big question now is how much longer will the police be up at school. If they are concerned that if they do their sworn duty to up hold the law and the school will not back them. Why would they want to work off duty at school events. What message is the school sending to the students that this behavior will be ok and nothing will happen. Today, I heard thru a reliable scource that students where talking back to staff. The students would than say their is nothing you can do to me so who cares. It is time for the school to start backing the teachers and staff. They need to say these are the rules and this is the punishment for your actions and follow thru with what they say will happen. Don't let them off for good behavior. The school admin sent a clear message Friday when they wore black clothes in support of the student. That is you can attack a cop and the admin will support you not the law.
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This thread is hearsay at best. If you don't know what that is look it up. It usually is not allowed in court, and it not helping anything here. Lets wait and see what is determined by the LCM admin. I will lock this thread if it continues.
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yes i agree, but the thing is, is that the cop never told him to stop. There were no words exchanged between them before the cop grabbed him. I can understand doing your job but grabbing a student by the throat is unacceptable. Esspecially since at this point he was not trying to fight anyone and there was not a single baseball player around. I can understand if he tried to talk to him first, but there was no talking..................................
I agree the kid overreacted due to egging from the other students but seriously he was walking away no fight had even occured. ............................................. and i fully believe the cop was in the wrong here, so go ahead and tell me how wrong you think i am. But until you see the video tape you have no right
I have no clue what happened so I won't comment on the incident but will about laws and situations.
You say there was no fight but I don't see where that matters. The officer has the right to stop and detain someone involved in a disturbance or that may have been involved in a fight. With that right the officer can investigate what happened. Maybe nothing happened but that does not stop a police officer from lawfully investigating it assuming that he had enough information that a fight or other crime "may" have been committed or in other words, reasonable suspicion.
When an officer has the right of detention, it is not voluntary. In fact, walking away from an officer that has attempted to lawfully detain you can be the criminal offense of Evading Detention if the person is trying to keep the officer from stopping him. The officer can then lawfully use force if necessary. An officer grabbing onto a person that is walking from a lawful detention is probably going to be ruled as justified force.
The officer may have been rude or maybe the officer could have had more tact but that doesn't make what the officer did improper or illegal (assuming that is what happened). If an officer attempts a lawful detention by grabbing a person, that gives no right for the person to strike the officer. A person might not like being grabbed but the person should not be walking away "if" the officer told the person to stop or tried to detain him.
Did any of that happen? I have no idea. Just commenting on some aspects of the laws and what officers can lawfully do. When I see people commenting that the officer "had no right", I am wondering if they know what they are talking about.
Very good post. Having a brother in law and several close friends that are officers I have talked to them and thay all confirm this if an officer tells you to stop and you don't then you have already commoted a criminal offense. When the student hit the officer he commited a felony and this will stay with him for the rest of his life.
The officer did not grab his throat I have heard this from 2 different adults that where within 5 feet of the altercation. Where you that close? Where you close enough to hear what the officer said? The bottom line is once he hit the officer he broke the law no matter what. I just hope the school is supporting the officer. If they are not this could be a field day for parents and teachers to go after the school for unsafe conditions.
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I agree the kid overreacted due to egging from the other students but seriously he was walking away no fight had even occured. ............................................. and i fully believe the cop was in the wrong here, so go ahead and tell me how wrong you think i am. But until you see the video tape you have no right
I have no clue what happened so I won't comment on the incident but will about laws and situations.
You say there was no fight but I don't see where that matters. The officer has the right to stop and detain someone involved in a disturbance or that may have been involved in a fight. With that right the officer can investigate what happened. Maybe nothing happened but that does not stop a police officer from lawfully investigating it assuming that he had enough information that a fight or other crime "may" have been committed or in other words, reasonable suspicion.
When an officer has the right of detention, it is not voluntary. In fact, walking away from an officer that has attempted to lawfully detain you can be the criminal offense of Evading Detention if the person is trying to keep the officer from stopping him. The officer can then lawfully use force if necessary. An officer grabbing onto a person that is walking from a lawful detention is probably going to be ruled as justified force.
The officer may have been rude or maybe the officer could have had more tact but that doesn't make what the officer did improper or illegal (assuming that is what happened). If an officer attempts a lawful detention by grabbing a person, that gives no right for the person to strike the officer. A person might not like being grabbed but the person should not be walking away "if" the officer told the person to stop or tried to detain him.
Did any of that happen? I have no idea. Just commenting on some aspects of the laws and what officers can lawfully do. When I see people commenting that the officer "had no right", I am wondering if they know what they are talking about.
Very good post. Having a brother in law and several close friends that are officers I have talked to them and thay all confirm this if an officer tells you to stop and you don't then you have already commoted a criminal offense. When the student hit the officer he commited a felony and this will stay with him for the rest of his life.
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im not sure how trustworthy the news is. For all of you who are going by what it says on the news you should just forget it. For one there was no prior fight when all of this escalated into the cop fight.
Two, it did not take place in the cafeteria like the news said.
Three, the cop was not in the cafeteria when all of the hooping and hollering was happeneing like the news said.
Four, The cop was not breaking up a fight when then student "supposedly" hit him. The officer aggresively approached him, nowhere near any baseball player or fighting atmosphere unlike what the news and paper said.
I know im not one to be telling them how to do their jobs, but they need to get at least on the right track and get there facts straight.
Oh and btw, the student has no prior record or any criminal profile like many of you are accusing him for.
I don't know where you get your info number one, but it sounds like you are one of his good buddies.
Second several witness to the hole incident say their was an altercation in the locker room first and then the egging on buy others got him to go after him again in the cafeteria. Which was witnessed by teachers and staff.
He then was stopped by the officer and he punched the officer in the side of the head and resisted the officer (this is against the law) the officer is trained to use whatever force is deemed needed to restrain him. He had the officer on the ground kicking and punching him. Once the student resisted the officer all bets where off he broke the law and that the bottom line. If he had not done that he might not be in all the trouble he is now.
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I would say do to because the parents won't let them
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Looks like all his buds are coming to the rescue.
sure does look that way
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nikespeed you may not be one that is egging him on but I bet you don't know the whole sequence of events. By the way are you on a school computer doing this are your phone. Either way why don't you pay attention to what your supposed to be doing like learning.
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nikespeed I may not have been there but I have heard from someone that witnessed the whole thing and all the adults say different from what you are saying
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If the student that was tased would have LISTENED AND TREATED THE COP as an authority figure NOTHING LIKE THIS would have happened.
That is what is wrong with many of our kids.
They DONT respect authority.
This is very true
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nikespeed I will bet you where one of the students egging him on. As soon as the kid hit the officer it became a felony. First the student should have not been fighting with anyone. He needs to take responsibility for his actions. You need to take responsibility for your own if you are others where egging him on to fight. By doing that the issue was blown up more than it should have been.
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I heard who the person is that started this post. It could be one of the players
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My name is Larry Brister,I will say what I have to say using my real name.I've coached with Coach Burke for 3 years, he is an excellent coach and man. He has a great feel and mind for the game,and he knows how to get the kids to play at another level. Everyone has a right to their opinion, bellison is also a coach I respect and knows the game and a good friend. He gave his opinion and used his real name I respect that. The fact is 95% of posters here if they were put on a board couldn't draw up a 50, 46, split, couldn't tell a secondary coverage or if that coverage had a robber. Is that DT in a 3,2 or1 tech,is that end a 9, 6, or 7, did the OL trap or combo, you get the idea. But it amazes me how many know exactly what LCM needs or feels they should be a part of hiring him. I took some classes that relate to law in high school and I watch alot of Judge Judy on TV, but I would never go to Tommy Gunn's or Jim Bearden's office and tell them who they should or shouldn't hire. But I guess it just gets to me when a good coach gets dogged just for applying for a job. If you think he shouldn't be hired , that's your right, but when you attack a man's ability that you don't know , at least be man and use your real name.
very well said
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Sure are missing a lot of post
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I'm sure a lot of players are happy he is not there anymore
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Look at the records of the teams alice has played some have only one lose to alice don't count them out
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hopefully he can go to png
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Moody can go to png
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Don't under estimate those South Texas boys they have played some tough teams this year
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The Coach in question was not happy and told him not to do that again ( heard it from one of the players that the qb told him what the coach said)