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[quote name="beeninnikes" post="778389" timestamp="1268881753"] I got a few thoughts on this topic.  First of all, i think just because you make it to Austin in the final 4, doesnt guarantee you a spot in the top 4 or 5 on the final poll.  Some teams come out of weak regions where they may not make out 2 rounds in another region.  Leggett in 1A-II region 4 is a great example.  They made it to the state tournament and lost to Kennard in the regular season.  Kennard was the THIRD PLACE team 24-1A-II, which is region 3 though.  I promise Leggett couldnt make it 2 rounds in region 3, and they have no business being in the top 10 or maybe 15 in the TABC poll, but finished 4th for making it to state (Laneville at #6 beat them by 8 pts on a neutral court).  Now in Spurgers case, they beat the #2 team in state at the time to get to state, so i agree they should be higher.  In the teams ranked ahead of them, i saw Cayuga, Bronte, Gruver, Tenaha, and Martins Mill play at least once.  I think Spurger shouldve been possibly ranked ahead of Gruver or Tenaha, but not Bronte or Martins Mill.  Bronte for obvious reasons, and Martins Mill gave Cayuga a heck of a game in the regional finals, it was within 10 points until some point in the 4th quarter.  I think Martins Mill wouldve done pretty well at state also.  I cant speak for those other 3 teams, but they better have made the regional finals at least.  I probably wouldve put Spurger at least in the top 6 or 7 though.  I agree about the TABC poll being a joke in some cases.  They rank teams that i know have no business being in there and leave teams out that are more than deserving. [/quote] I  can agree with that.

[quote name="Aiden1" post="778323" timestamp="1268877235"] Right but apparently they already know how to do those thing well so I guess the coach felt thats what they needed to do to exploit teams and win. You guys kill me. What do you play sports for? To win the game, HELLO!!! That is like last year when Dallas got mad that the Vikings didnt lay down after they were beating. I love Dallas, but that is part of the game!!! [/quote] Oh I agree they needed to play to win but the point on here has been when they had huge leads they should have eased off.  I saw them play in person and they were not a real good team in the half court.  That is where they needed work, so in these lopsided games they had the opportunity to work on that part of the game.  As far as comparing to the pros,  these are high school athletes they are not paid and are not the best of the best.  Pros are both it is their job to keep a team from embarrasing them.  High school athletes are there to compete and learn the game.  If they are beaten so be it  And they  may even be in a lopsided loss but embarrassing them should never be part of the equation.  A truly good high school coach coaches not only to win but to make his players better preparing them for playing in the future.

[quote name="Aiden1" post="778141" timestamp="1268862073"] LISTEN!!! You are talking about two different classifications of basketball. Most of those guys from Yates are playing to further their careers after highschool and have to be in the best shape and show there best. You know that hardly ever someone from 1A makes it big unless you are exceptional so you cannot say that. Plus Spurger only has like 7 members so I think it makes sense to rest them. Like I said before that is whats wrong with society and kids today. Just want things easy and not work for it. The Yates coach prepared them for Lancaster and that could of been the reason they finished strong and jumped ahead at the end.   All I have to say is RUSH LIMBAUGH AKA POLITICALLY CORRECT STATEMENT YOU MADE!!! JMO [/quote] Just like I have said elsewhere if they are trying to get ready to "further their careers" they need to be good at a lot more facets of the game than just pressing.  Such as half court offenses and defenses so that point is crap.

  I know many of you would expect me to comment on the Tigers ranking but that is not what I made this topic about.  I made this because I feel the poll really did an injustice to Spurger.  I know the argument would be that they got beat badly by Cayuga and some of the other teams ranked above them didn't. However,  the Pirates made it to Austin so they were one of the final four teams. They lost to the team that won state.  In my book they deserve to be ranked higher than ninth.  I would have to put them in the top 4 because they earned their spot in Austin and beat the number  2 team in the state.  Congratulations Pirates on a great year and congratulations to all our ranked area teams!!  Good luck next year!!

Dove is so jealous of HJ and Silsbee its pathetic. Every year we battle for first yet there is never ever a battle for celler dweller. :)

I don't think anyone has a problem with Yates team. It is the coach they have a problem with.

All you need to do is look at the stats of those who made the list.  It took a couple of games for some of those to be comparable to what DC put up in one.

[quote name="PoppaBearstarr" post="777899" timestamp="1268795484"] [quote author=ST413 link=topic=67335.msg777791#msg777791 date=1268783780] [quote author=PoppaBearstarr link=topic=67335.msg777762#msg777762 date=1268778884] [quote author=ST413 link=topic=67335.msg777711#msg777711 date=1268771743] Yeah but we still have all the bragging rights right now: lead the series 7-6, reigning district champs, reigning regional champs and won 2 out of 3 this year. :) [/quote] Yes you do...I see your 2 regional championships, and raise you 2 regional championships and a state championship.... :o All in all we have been taking turns going to the state tournament for the last four years....not too shabby for either clubs. [/quote] Yeah yeah but all of yours and one of ours is past history.  The rest of ours is current at least until each part changes next year... ;) [/quote] Well if you look at it that way, everything is in the past...throw it all out the window and start over.. [/quote] Haha.  No way, there are always reigning champs til a new one is crowned.  :)

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="777856" timestamp="1268791106"] That weak schedule had them prepared for Cleveland, Navasota, Silsbee and Kountze twice this year this year!!!!! ;) ;) [/quote] Exactly.

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="777850" timestamp="1268790714"] [quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=67335.msg777846#msg777846 date=1268790271] I guarantee two things.........HJ will have more than 24 wins and way less than 9 losses!!!!! [/quote] I concur. [/quote]  Yeah, they always do.  Thanks to their weak schedule... :D :D

[quote name="PoppaBearstarr" post="777762" timestamp="1268778884"] [quote author=ST413 link=topic=67335.msg777711#msg777711 date=1268771743] Yeah but we still have all the bragging rights right now: lead the series 7-6, reigning district champs, reigning regional champs and won 2 out of 3 this year. :) [/quote] Yes you do...I see your 2 regional championships, and raise you 2 regional championships and a state championship.... :o All in all we have been taking turns going to the state tournament for the last four years....not too shabby for either clubs. [/quote] Yeah yeah but all of yours and one of ours is past history.  The rest of ours is current at least until each part changes next year... ;)

Silsbee has always stayed fairly consistent in basketball maybe not quite like the last 4 years but has almost always been one of the best teams in the area.

Me too.

Hey in all honesty my obvously better was just giving you or Lazeek a hard time.

Yeah but we still have all the bragging rights right now: lead the series 7-6, reigning district champs, reigning regional champs and won 2 out of 3 this year. :)

Way to go DC.  Congratulations to all.

[quote name="whsalum" post="777533" timestamp="1268712110"] I didn't realize until the first Silsbee/HJ game how good a player DC Stallworth is.He is the real deal and a huge head start for next years Tigers.The vote between Avory and Jacolby had to a close one,two different kind of defenders and both very deserving.Turner is as quick as any defender I've seen in this area. [/quote] Yes he is.  We Tiger fans won't miss him  ;),  but Hj fans sure will.  He was fun to watch even though he may have given me high blood pressure from time to time. :D

[quote name="ST413" post="777489" timestamp="1268706831"] Cogratulations everyone.  Way to go DC.  You are truly fun to watch and most deserving.  Continue to work hard and th sky is the limit.  I am looking forward to watching you and Prentice lead this team next year.  And a special congratulations to Avory Thomas.  You improved tremendously from last year to this year.  Your defense gave opponents nightmares when it came time for them to go to the rim. You,  Pheal, and Sweet will be missed by all of us fans and your teammates.  You and Pheal are the only seniors from Silsbee to reach Austin twice...a great accomplishment.  AAW I would tend to agree with Prudhomme and I would think Kelton Gaines shouldn't be too far behind. [/quote] Let me add DC and Prentice you have a chance to one up Avory and Pheal by getting back to Austin next year making it 3 times with one state title. ;) ;D

[quote name="SilsbeeHS Legend" post="777514" timestamp="1268710226"] only thing i wouldve changed is pheal being a first teamer [/quote] And he probably would have been if he had not missed 6 district games.

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="777491" timestamp="1268706980"] I too also believe that Avory getting defensive POY is dead on. He ended the season with 200 block shots, school record. [/quote] I remember before the season everyone was predicting the best big man in the district to be between Ricossa and Davis.  I know Phillip had a hard time with his knees but Avory went out and had a huge year that not many were expecting from him.  He held his own offensively and did great on the boards.  The blocks speak for themselves especially staying out of foul trouble almost every game.

Cogratulations everyone.  Way to go DC.  You are truly fun to watch and most deserving.  Continue to work hard and th sky is the limit.  I am looking forward to watching you and Prentice lead this team next year.  And a special congratulations to Avory Thomas.  You improved tremendously from last year to this year.  Your defense gave opponents nightmares when it came time for them to go to the rim. You,  Pheal, and Sweet will be missed by all of us fans and your teammates.  You and Pheal are the only seniors from Silsbee to reach Austin twice...a great accomplishment.  AAW I would tend to agree with Prudhomme and I would think Kelton Gaines shouldn't be too far behind.

Why won't the state let them or have they asked?

[quote name="FanintheStands" post="777463" timestamp="1268703339"] Does Silsbee have a chance of going to Austin? Only if they: a) move to another region. or b) move to another class. Oh wait.  There's also c) If HJ moves to another region or d) If HJ moves to another class. :D [/quote] Yeah maybe HJ should go back to 4A I bet it would be a lot more quiet in here then.... :D :D

Yep. Two years in a row I feel Silsbee could have got the job done. One big upset and a close semifinal loss.

Or a hungry Cleveland but the Tigers are just as hungry. They still haven't got what they want!!