ukfan27

Ok, I am so confused why this thread was even started.  I have read like three people say its the coach and the person who started it agreed.  So the point in this thread was for you to hear what other people said bad about the coach.  In that case you should have started the thread "Lumbertons Coach Sucks" so you wouldn't have to defend your reasoning for EVERYONE who has said its a rebuliding year. 

Well when you are real coach in the area, (sorry, little dribblers doesnt classify you as a coach Bobcat05 even if you do win one of the ten thousand "nationals titles" LOL), you hold your tongue or in this case your fingers. The only defense was to the constant talk of the the two allstaters that left. The issue is this year's team only.

Coach 27 it is clear 8 years isn't enough. I've got 14 years and some of those years was agaist chelsey and wilson and if its plain dumb to keep your best players on the floor your in the minority.If you watch the best players in the area they do not come off the floor until the end  period. You must consider yourself a better coach than the ones at Lumberton, HJ, HF, Orangefeild and all other top programs. Lumberton didn't lose a game because the bench didn't play any more minutes. They lost because their best girls got into foul trouble. You win tough games with your best. Your probably one of those coachs that thinks everyone deserves the same minutes. It dosn't matter if you win. Your screen name does't fit your coments.

Actually..............I coached for Lumberton and for Orangefield for several years so I did my part in helping those programs. YOU dint keep them on the floor with two minutes left when up by over 30 points. A smart coach doesn't risk the chance of injury. Plain and simple.

If you were waiting for someone to say it was the coaches fault Lumberton wasn't doing well, then you shouldn't have tried to beat around the bush and have someone else bring it up.  I personally think it might just be a rebuilding year for Lumberton. 

I was just testing the waters and LRFan came through and spoke of the issues going on in L-Town.........Bobcats do not know what goes on in Raider country, but thanks for reading and commenting!

Your comments about how many minutes the top two girls got even in wins is probably because your kids were sitting on the bench. Just because your winning your top players should't have to go to the bench that would be wrong they earned their minutes. As far as this year, Central and Ozen are better but they have a chance to make the playoffs. Lumberton will be back because of their little dribblers program and it will be soon. This is Centrals year and they don't have anyone helping continue their program. Like WOS who had a great 3 year run with a few girls they are in for a long wait for the next group. HJ, Koutze, HF, Orangefeild and lumberton will always be contenders because of their little dribblers programs. One lower than expected year doesn't spell doom. Lumberton will be leaders in their didtrict soon and for a long time.

I never said that they didn't deserve minutes. And by the way, My "kid" is in elementary school! I just know what is going on and I wanted to see if others did, too. Living in Lumberton, I have watched many Lumberton games during the past several years. I am sure that you are not from Lumberton or have barely seen them play because if you had, you would have more to say than the basic things you stated. I have coached basketball for over 8 years and it is just plain dumb to allow your stars to be in the game when you have such an enormous lead. Especially, when you have an opportunity to go to state. The possibilities of injuries as well as the limited "game time" experience for the bench riders. You should have seen the look on the girls' faces when they would go into the game. They were not comfortable at all. You shouldn't make comments about "coaching decisions" unless you are an actual coach. I doubt that you are.........keep dreaming cause it is a fun job!

How do you know such accurate info?

wouldn't be too difficult if you kept the scores of the games...

I know, but who has the scores to a 7th grade game other than the coach? It is not like it is put in the Beaumont E!

This is my first post on here, but i have been quietly following posts about Lumberton for about 3 years. Now seems like the right time to speak up. I couldn't agree more with coach27's suspicion about activity behind closed doors. I won't say my relation to the team, but I know for a fact that the girls are more dissapointed than anyone about this season. Yes, they are lacking a true leader on the court. More importantly though, they are lacking the kind of coach needed for this rebuilding year. The past two years courtney and chelsea made coach wilson look good, and this year, when his coaching skills were genuinely needed, he's come up short. He's failed to make needed adjustments in the crunch time of several games, and hasn't used the teams talent to its full potential.

It's no suprise that that this year was going to be harder (but not impossible) than years past, but that was obvious going into the season. Basically, the girls feel coach wilson gave up a long time ago, and are having a hard time giving their all for someone that doesn't believe in them or would rather be elsewhere. This has been a long and frustrating season for them.

It's crucial for the girls to decide to do this for themselves and stick together if they want success. They're definitely talented enough to pull out a rewarding season.   

Here is my "thread" Bobcat05!!!! THANK YOU SOOOOOOOOO MUCH LRFan!!! Your words are so true and you have made me smile! ;D ;D ;D ;D And to think, I was beginning to wonder if anyone knew the stuff I knew???? See, these are the things we need to be talking about, not the players of the past. Anybody else who REALLY knows Lumberton info wanna comment???

Coaches should have some kind of grading system for refs after games and then turn them in to the chapters for review!!

That is true. But, even so, the UNC play was just dumb...........

I have found that there is no point.

Did you watch this upset today? Who the heck was the last play drawn up for? Tyler H. shooting a three??? Was that not one of the worst game ending plays this season or what?  ???

BC will have boys and girls teams next year. Any predictions on how they will do in district and overall?

Lumberton was making the playoffs long before the two allstaters played together the past couple of years. And a lot of those girls went on to play college ball, too. I guess that last year's team is all people remember. This topic is much deeper than last year's team, but I guess the people who know more about it do not read this site. There is more going on behind lockerroom doors that is causing this poor season...............

Crush.........Who is panicing? Honestly, when it comes to their coach, I heard he is actually leaving. Guess he wont be "prowling" the sidelines after all. I have heard that there has been a lack of love from the staff this year, too. Did you read the comments he said about the team after the WB game? It made a lot of people question his and their future the next year or so. "I" know that the program will be fine in the future, because "I" know who is coming up. By the way, about the two all-staters leading in every stat category.........if you ever went to a game, you would have noticed that they never really came out of the game, unless they were up by 30+ points with less than a minute to go. I once asked a parent why this was so and the parent told me it was to keep their (the two all-staters) stats up for college. The irony in this was that the last game that the two of them played together, foul trouble killed them and left them on the floor away from each other for over ten minutes!! This left other players having to pick up slack in a playoff game with limited "game" experience due to the high minutes that were given to the all-staters to get their stats up.

parents are probably the leading "rumor starters". the reason they stayed in as much, is because we NEEDED them to win. and if you don't believe me, look at how were playing this year. were lacking a true leader. we have tons of talent, but no leader. and that is what we did. chelsea by no means was pading her stats, she distributed the ball very well! and the only reason she is riding the pine in college is because she JUST got over an injury that has kept her out all season. she just got over it like 2 weeks ago. and if u go to HBU's site, courtney wilson doesn't ride the pine there either. she gets a solid 10-15 minutes a game.

ACTUALLY............It came straight from her father's mouth. No rumor there bud. I personally watched her almost get her eye scratched out in a game when they were winning by 25 points with two minutes to go. I asked her father why she was still even in the game. And as far as "distributing the ball very well", ask her teammates. Several of them complained "to me personally" that as good as she was, they wished that she would pass the ball more. Facts are facts. Anybody who "rides" is not a starter. Courtney and Pick are both really good. I never said they were not. Just wondering what people thought about the situation. PLEASE people........no more talk of the two great players that just graduated. We are talking about the NOW!!!! Please respond about this year, NOT THE PAST!

No team wins every year. There is going to be down years. Lumberton will never be down long because they have a solid Little Dribber program. As far as the comment about the "All Staters" both of those girls were exceptional basketball players. They did not need stats to see that. Both played AAU until they graduated. I believe they earned those stats. Also if the coach does not come to lumberton and bring his daughter Lumberton would have never gone to the state tournament. She was the one ingredients Lumberton was missing.

HJ, Kountze, Ozen........need I go on? Maybe not every year....., but close!

Of course they "earned" their stats, but there were too many times when they should not have been in the game. Seriously, up by over 30 points and they are still in the game? I watched many many many of their games so I do know what I am talking about. You are an O'Field fan so you usually watch them, right? I do agree with you that they needed Courtney, but I predicted when Pick was in 7th grade that when she was a junior, the varsity would make it past the third round. I felt this way because of the girls with Pick and in the grade above dominated everyone in the district (except Silsbee at that time). Courtney is a better team player and her "tallness" was needed.

Well, just wait until you see one of the little dribblers teams from grades k-2 in the Hardin Jefferson system.  One player is totally awesome and is the brother of a current high school star in the area.

You ARE kidding right?

I have seen them play and they are solid all around. They play very well together. Didnt Jasper almost beat them?

Any Kentucky fans out there? Did you know that Coach G hasnt even signed a formal contract? Does anyone besides me think this is weird? As a UK fan, I feel like his heart isnt really in it to be there if he hasnt signed a contract by now! Comments?

How do you know such accurate info?

Are there any places where women get together and play pickup games or any kind of leagues around for some competition?

Men or women teams? Or both?

you serious??

Does she take lessons anywhere?

lol

Andrew Danos from Lumberton is no doubt in the top five. If you had ever seen him play, you would have been amazed. He barely lost any games much less a set to any local player. He was also a class act on the court, too. He is also a greatAside from being a great player, he is also a great coach. He gives lessons now in the area if there are interested parties. Look him up in Lumberton!

Crush.........Who is panicing? Honestly, when it comes to their coach, I heard he is actually leaving. Guess he wont be "prowling" the sidelines after all. I have heard that there has been a lack of love from the staff this year, too. Did you read the comments he said about the team after the WB game? It made a lot of people question his and their future the next year or so. "I" know that the program will be fine in the future, because "I" know who is coming up. By the way, about the two all-staters leading in every stat category.........if you ever went to a game, you would have noticed that they never really came out of the game, unless they were up by 30+ points with less than a minute to go. I once asked a parent why this was so and the parent told me it was to keep their (the two all-staters) stats up for college. The irony in this was that the last game that the two of them played together, foul trouble killed them and left them on the floor away from each other for over ten minutes!! This left other players having to pick up slack in a playoff game with limited "game" experience due to the high minutes that were given to the all-staters to get their stats up.