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(In no particular order within clusters) 1-3 (playoff confidence): PNG, Barbers Hill, Baytown Lee, 4-6(playoff bubble): Nederland, Crosby, Santa Fe 7-8: Vidor, Dayton

Any other schools in the area hit this mark? Where could I find a list with all of the 600-win schools?

Is this the last win or the last win in Nederland?

Anyone know the last time Silsbee beat Nederland? And the last time they beat Nederland in Nederland?

Good work, Silsbee. It ain't easy to beat Nederland (Take it from a PNG fan). Great win.

Defense continues to impress. 9 points allowed in the past 6 quarters. Given that we allowed 63 points in the first six quarters of the season, this 9 points is looking a lot better.

4 minutes is a long time. This one isn't over.

Which side?

Is this the first signature win of the Beaumont United era? Easily the biggest win so far.

Sounds like the defense is coming together well. Offense doing enough. Just need to get better every week. Good signs.

It's hard to tell about this PNG team. I think the first two games have shown some real strengths and some real weaknesses. Here's hoping it comes together. I think we're going to be a force to be reckoned with in district. Also, I agree we need to clean up the secondary. Also, Bost seems a little out of sync with the receivers at times. Against Silsbee has was near flawless at times. But against Huntsville it seemed like everything was off, though that probably had more to do with the Huntsville D than anything else.

Silsbee is going to run all over most teams they play. I'm really excited for the WO-S game, to see how that Mustang defense stacks up against this particular Sislbee running back squad. The Silsbee line is big. After the PNG game, I'd say the biggest weakness is being mistake prone, for Silsbee, and everyone has mentioned the conditioning. But if Silsbee can avoid fumbles and interceptions, they are going to give Nederland a good game, and maybe shock WO-S again. This running back group from Silsbee is the best in the area.

When do they release the cutoff numbers?

That's a heartbreaker. Tough loss for him. I can't imagine how that must feel (physically and emotionally).

Does anyone know when was the last time anyone from SETX beat WO-S two years in a row?

Dayton wasn't in our district that year. Nederland and Central both made it too, I think.

LCM beat the snot out of us in 2013. I don't remember the score from 2012, because everyone beat us except for Lumberton and Silsbee. I do remember the 2013 loss. LCM was good that year. The playoff dark horse of the district. Ya'll took the fourth spot, I think.

This joke is something like 5 years old, and it never gets old, in my opinion.

Silsbee does pre-season as well as any team in the area, perhaps better. And the same thing happens every year: Silsbee plays a tough pre-season schedule, loses a few games to teams from bigger schools or to a highly-ranked team from their classification, and the consensus becomes, "Silsbee is weak this year." Then they tear through district (West Orange being the sole real roadblock) and get into playoffs. Last year Silsbee looked weak at the beginning, then it turned out they were one of the best in the state. The point in mentioning this is, win or lose against PNG, Silsbee is building a playoff team, not necessarily an "undefeated regular season" team. If I was a Silsbee fan, I wouldn't even worry about the PNG game. Silsbee is playing bigger, deeper teams to get ready for a long playoff season. I predict PNG wins handily. I'm thinking something like a 17-point win. Not because Silsbee is bad, but because PNG is usually a bad matchup for Silsbee (13-0 in the last 25 years). This makes sense, as PNG has something like 800 more students than Silsbee. Schematically, I think a run-heavy offense is easier to cover than a well-run spread (unless the running team has enormous size and speed -- Silsbee has some good size and some good speed. But unless they are fast and big like Marshall, who destroyed PNG on the ground in the playoffs last year, Silsbee isn't going to breeze past or over PNG). So PNG will be able to put up a lot of points while containing Silsbee enough to stay ahead. Even with the weakest team PNG has had (2012) in the past twenty years, PNG managed to beat Silsbee by one point. Silsbee had a decent playoff run that year, with a QB who went on to play some D1 (Patrick Reed, right?). When PNG has been a reasonably good team (decent in 2013 and good in 2016 and 2018), PNG has scored easily and often against Sislbee and played defense well-enough to survive vigorous comeback attempts (Even with Calvin Tyler putting up something close to 300 yards against us in 2016).

PNG wins against Silsbee -- 48-22.

In any case, Crosby is guaranteed a win against PNG because we'll find out someone had a 27-inch TV streaming playback of the game up in the press box.

History is very often predictive, though I get what you're saying. Anyone can beat anyone on any night, and there is no reason that any team in this district won't pull out a victory against any other team in the district. My point is to look at trends. We aren't slaves to the past, but we shouldn't ignore it either. Vidor has only beaten PNG a few times in history, after playing over most of the last century -- It is usually a safe bet that PNG will beat Vidor (not that it is ever guaranteed, just that the odds favor it). BH is a little different -- BH usually plays us quite close (21-20, 21-14, and I think 34-28 in three of the games), so it's more of a toss-up. BUT, at home, all other things being equal, I'd favor PNG. It should be a good game. I may even drive into town for this one.

I love all the predictions of Barbers Hill over PNG. Barbers Hill has been "about to be good" for years. The result? PNG is 6-0 against them, all games played since 2008. Why am I supposed to take as a given that Barbers Hill is going to beat us this year, when they've never been able to do so in any year? For that matter, I'm not sure BH has ever beaten Nederland either. .

Same apologies for taking so long to respond. We shared in a piece of the pie for two years prior to Roschon arriving. It is true that we won't have Roschon. But neither will Nederland. There is no reason, absent evidence from actual gameplay, to assume that PNG is going to have a drastic drop-off, while assuming, with the same not-any-evidence, that other teams are going to rocket forward. I tend to wish that coaching would be better, but I also have to acknowledge the good things the coaches are doing. Based on comparisons within the district, PNG's coaches are among the best in the district. A lot of us look at what PNG is not doing and say "Wow, the coaching is terrible," without acknowledging that we might not be even as good as we are but for the coaching. We definitely have room to improve, but so does Nederland, and so do the others. We have strong youth coming up, one of the top linemen in the country, and a proven, solid quarterback. We are going to score, and if we can put a defense together from the pieces remaining from last year's stronger-than-normal defense, we are going to be dangerous. In other words, my point in this and in my last post is not that PNG is going to win state, but that in reference to the DISTRICT, no one has shown any reason to project a drop-off year for PNG, OR to except a huge improvement from PNG, for that matter. I say, let's reserve judgment unless there is something substantive to support a prediction one way or the other.

WO-S' district before Silsbee got there. It wasn't much of a head-scratcher trying to figure out who would win that district.