The Cook

[quote name="True Blue" post="1031793" timestamp="1312551812"] Well I dont have a dog in this race, but I went and looked it up . You do not have to be certified in anything to be a coach in the state of texas. Now some schools might not wont to hire a coach that is not cert. do to him not being able to teach a class. But to be a coach in Texas all you have to be is employed by the school dist. [/quote]To be a HEAD coach of any sport, you have to be certified! Otherwise, to the highest bidder goes the high profile coach from wherever he may come from.

[quote name="stevenash" post="1031485" timestamp="1312479078"] [quote author=Lt. Dangle link=topic=86248.msg1031470#msg1031470 date=1312477213] [quote author=Twig link=topic=86248.msg1031141#msg1031141 date=1312403923] [quote author=Lt. Dangle link=topic=86248.msg1031066#msg1031066 date=1312394488] [quote author=speechless link=topic=86248.msg1031063#msg1031063 date=1312394257] There are lots of capacities in which a person can be at a school for many years and not be certified or even degreed.  The only rule for coaching at a school in Texas is that you are a full time employee of the school.  The rules change for head coaching positions of major sports.  That is where the certification issue comes in but there is no time table when it comes to coaching....the time tables deal only with teaching. [/quote]And you have to be certified to be a head coach in Texas. [/quote] You would do best staying out of this dangle. You clearly don't know what you are talking about! [/quote]Truly Twiggy, when is the last time you saw a sub-varsity coach in Texas featured in FXSW " High School Spotlight". Thank you , I knew the answer already....NEVER [/quote] Sorry, but being featured in FXSW is not what is used as a hiring criterion. [/quote]Nash, thats not why that was said. It was said because Sleepy posted that Ira was well respected in local  coaching circles and even more so across the state of Texas. Nothing to do with certification.

[quote name="stevenash" post="1031485" timestamp="1312479078"] [quote author=Lt. Dangle link=topic=86248.msg1031470#msg1031470 date=1312477213] [quote author=Twig link=topic=86248.msg1031141#msg1031141 date=1312403923] [quote author=Lt. Dangle link=topic=86248.msg1031066#msg1031066 date=1312394488] [quote author=speechless link=topic=86248.msg1031063#msg1031063 date=1312394257] There are lots of capacities in which a person can be at a school for many years and not be certified or even degreed.  The only rule for coaching at a school in Texas is that you are a full time employee of the school.  The rules change for head coaching positions of major sports.  That is where the certification issue comes in but there is no time table when it comes to coaching....the time tables deal only with teaching. [/quote]And you have to be certified to be a head coach in Texas. [/quote]Nash, Thats not why that was said. It was in response to Sleepy saying that Ira was well respected in local coaching circles & even more so across the state of Texas. It didn't have anything to do with certification. You would do best staying out of this dangle. You clearly don't know what you are talking about! [/quote]Truly Twiggy, when is the last time you saw a sub-varsity coach in Texas featured in FXSW " High School Spotlight". Thank you , I knew the answer already....NEVER [/quote] Sorry, but being featured in FXSW is not what is used as a hiring criterion. [/quote]

[quote name="Twig" post="1031141" timestamp="1312403923"] [quote author=Lt. Dangle link=topic=86248.msg1031066#msg1031066 date=1312394488] [quote author=speechless link=topic=86248.msg1031063#msg1031063 date=1312394257] There are lots of capacities in which a person can be at a school for many years and not be certified or even degreed.  The only rule for coaching at a school in Texas is that you are a full time employee of the school.  The rules change for head coaching positions of major sports.  That is where the certification issue comes in but there is no time table when it comes to coaching....the time tables deal only with teaching. [/quote]And you have to be certified to be a head coach in Texas. [/quote] You would do best staying out of this dangle. You clearly don't know what you are talking about! [/quote]Truly Twiggy, when is the last time you saw a sub-varsity coach in Texas featured in FXSW " High School Spotlight". Thank you , I knew the answer already....NEVER

[quote name="BigDaddy1" post="1031288" timestamp="1312421874"] [quote author=Bone Daddy link=topic=86033.msg1030749#msg1030749 date=1312320061] [quote author=BigDaddy1 link=topic=86033.msg1029336#msg1029336 date=1311963675] [quote author=Bone Daddy link=topic=86033.msg1029327#msg1029327 date=1311961337] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=86033.msg1028402#msg1028402 date=1311710395] [quote author=Lt. Dangle link=topic=86033.msg1028400#msg1028400 date=1311709879] What is the status of the 2 Beaumont ref chapters merging? Are yall going to get it done this summer? [/quote] From what I hear, not going to happen. Would like to hear from those two on this subject. [/quote]AAW, after talking to Bob, it sounds like the TASO chapter has done all they can but to no avail. [/quote]Boone Daddy, you have recieved some false information from who ever Bob is. here are some facts. I have talked to some members of the Beaumont UIL Chapter board  and here is what i was told. On July 11th,2011, the Beaumont UIL Chapter board members, the Deep East Texas TASO chapter board members,several area head basketball coaches and a representative from the state UIL office attended a meeting at the Carol Thomas Center to see what it would take to bring the 2 chapters back togather.This meeting was requested by the head basketball coaches from around the area.After a lot of discussion by all involved the coaches suggested that the boards from both chapters be dismantled and a new board be formed with with no board members from the present boards (Beaumont or Deep East Texas) be allowed to serve on the new board for at least 2 years. That was one of the reasons the chapters spilt,because board members from each chapter had personality problems.The Beaumont UIL Board agreed to this suggestion if thats what it would take to bring the chapters back togather. The Deep East Texas TASO board rejected this suggestion and has not given a reason why they refused to go along with this proposal.The UIL Chapter said they have done everything they can do to bring the chapters back togather, but the TASO chapter has not been willing to do so. Mr. Bob need to check on facts. ::) [/quote]Dear Big Daddy, I assume that since this your 1st post that you are a UIL basketball referee & if you were as "in touch" with the situation as you would like us to believe then you would know who the only Bob there is in this area officiating basketball. Secondly, if the UIL chapter has said that "we have done everything we can do to bring the chapters back togather" then it must be true. Right?? [/quote][quote author=Bone Daddy link=topic=86033.msg1030749#msg1030749 date=1312320061] [quote author=BigDaddy1 link=topic=86033.msg1029336#msg1029336 date=1311963675] [quote author=Bone Daddy link=topic=86033.msg1029327#msg1029327 date=1311961337] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=86033.msg1028402#msg1028402 date=1311710395] [quote author=Lt. Dangle link=topic=86033.msg1028400#msg1028400 date=1311709879] What is the status of the 2 Beaumont ref chapters merging? Are yall going to get it done this summer? [/quote] From what I hear, not going to happen. Would like to hear from those two on this subject. [/quote]AAW, after talking to Bob, it sounds like the TASO chapter has done all they can but to no avail. [/quote]Boone Daddy, you have recieved some false information from who ever Bob is. here are some facts. I have talked to some members of the Beaumont UIL Chapter board  and here is what i was told. On July 11th,2011, the Beaumont UIL Chapter board members, the Deep East Texas TASO chapter board members,several area head basketball coaches and a representative from the state UIL office attended a meeting at the Carol Thomas Center to see what it would take to bring the 2 chapters back togather.This meeting was requested by the head basketball coaches from around the area.After a lot of discussion by all involved the coaches suggested that the boards from both chapters be dismantled and a new board be formed with with no board members from the present boards (Beaumont or Deep East Texas) be allowed to serve on the new board for at least 2 years. That was one of the reasons the chapters spilt,because board members from each chapter had personality problems.The Beaumont UIL Board agreed to this suggestion if thats what it would take to bring the chapters back togather. The Deep East Texas TASO board rejected this suggestion and has not given a reason why they refused to go along with this proposal.The UIL Chapter said they have done everything they can do to bring the chapters back togather, but the TASO chapter has not been willing to do so. Mr. Bob need to check on facts. ::) [/quote]Dear Big Daddy, I assume that since this your 1st post that you are a UIL basketball referee & if you were as "in touch" with the situation as you would like us to believe then you would know who the only Bob there is in this area officiating basketball. Secondly, if the UIL chapter has said that "we have done everything we can do to bring the chapters back togather" then it must be true. Right?? [/quote]Then you would know who the only Bob there is in this area officiating basketball. :o ::) [/quote]Hey Bigs, if you look at your post again, you were the one who said" whoever Bob is"

[quote name="speechless" post="1031063" timestamp="1312394257"] There are lots of capacities in which a person can be at a school for many years and not be certified or even degreed.  The only rule for coaching at a school in Texas is that you are a full time employee of the school.  The rules change for head coaching positions of major sports.  That is where the certification issue comes in but there is no time table when it comes to coaching....the time tables deal only with teaching. [/quote]And you have to be certified to be a head coach in Texas.

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1031036" timestamp="1312391818"] [quote author=Lt. Dangle link=topic=86248.msg1031030#msg1031030 date=1312391305] [quote author=sleepy link=topic=86248.msg1030943#msg1030943 date=1312373588] Ira Brooks is very well respected in coaching circles in southeast texas and even more so in the entire state of texas.  silsbee will be fine here and this is not a bad move at all.  i would tread lightly for those of you who are criticizing brooks and or silsbee.  their track record proves they know what they are doing over there in silsbee. [/quote]Hmmmm. A 3a boys sub-varsity basketball coach very well respected across the entire state of Texas. I went to college with a local 4a freshman boys coach and he's not gotten his "state-wide repect" badge yet he is certified & has been teaching and coaching for 11 years. [b]I suspect foul play![/b] [/quote] Please explain. [/quote]Freshman & JV coaches are not typically well known much less well respected across the state. Thats all

[quote name="sleepy" post="1030943" timestamp="1312373588"] Ira Brooks is very well respected in coaching circles in southeast texas and even more so in the entire state of texas.  silsbee will be fine here and this is not a bad move at all.  i would tread lightly for those of you who are criticizing brooks and or silsbee.  their track record proves they know what they are doing over there in silsbee. [/quote]Hmmmm. A 3a boys sub-varsity basketball coach very well respected across the entire state of Texas. I went to college with a local 4a freshman boys coach and he's not gotten his "state-wide repect" badge yet he is certified & has been teaching and coaching for 11 years. I suspect foul play!

[quote name="team first" post="1029371" timestamp="1311968643"] I hope officials from both chapters see this. This is the situation. Not so long ago, we had one chapter. The chapter did not do a good job of filling games( the right way) or getting the officials to games on time. Officials and coaches got tired of it. A few members branched off to form an organization. The new organization is doing a tremendous job.........FOR THE KIDS! No problems. Only concern is that there are good officials in the other chapter sitting at home, or not getting quality games. If some of these officials would join the new organization, our basketball games in the area would AGAIN have quality officiating at all games. It is what it is! Until some of these officials realize nothing is going to change, then guess what? The situation that we've had the last two years, IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE!!! Push the egos and hard feelings aside and do it for the game , the fans, the coaches, and most importantly, THE KIDS! See you in November, regardless of the decisions made! Basketball season is gonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnna happen! [/quote] Team, you know what most area coaches & officials know when it comes to the "problem" when these two chapters were unified. The aforementioned "problem" is still in the new UIL chapter with no real end in sight. Overwhelmingly, coaches are satisfied with the TASO bunch because all of their games are covered & on time, but just as important, their leadership handles the business end of the chapter and communications in a professional manner. I got to watch some of the HJ & Nederland tourneys this year and thought the officiating was handled very well. But the YMBL.....not so much. Probably why I will never leave football/baseball officiating for basketball again.

[quote name="BigDaddy1" post="1029336" timestamp="1311963675"] [quote author=Bone Daddy link=topic=86033.msg1029327#msg1029327 date=1311961337] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=86033.msg1028402#msg1028402 date=1311710395] [quote author=Lt. Dangle link=topic=86033.msg1028400#msg1028400 date=1311709879] What is the status of the 2 Beaumont ref chapters merging? Are yall going to get it done this summer? [/quote] From what I hear, not going to happen. Would like to hear from those two on this subject. [/quote]AAW, after talking to Bob, it sounds like the TASO chapter has done all they can but to no avail. [/quote]Boone Daddy, you have recieved some false information from who ever Bob is. here are some facts. I have talked to some members of the Beaumont UIL Chapter board  and here is what i was told. On July 11th,2011, the Beaumont UIL Chapter board members, the Deep East Texas TASO chapter board members,several area head basketball coaches and a representative from the state UIL office attended a meeting at the Carol Thomas Center to see what it would take to bring the 2 chapters back togather.This meeting was requested by the head basketball coaches from around the area.After a lot of discussion by all involved the coaches suggested that the boards from both chapters be dismantled and a new board be formed with with no board members from the present boards (Beaumont or Deep East Texas) be allowed to serve on the new board for at least 2 years. That was one of the reasons the chapters spilt,because board members from each chapter had personality problems.The Beaumont UIL Board agreed to this suggestion if thats what it would take to bring the chapters back togather. The Deep East Texas TASO board rejected this suggestion and has not given a reason why they refused to go along with this proposal.The UIL Chapter said they have done everything they can do to bring the chapters back togather, but the TASO chapter has not been willing to do so. Mr. Bob need to check on facts. ::) [/quote]I thought that the UIL was in litigation with TASO that would prevent that anyway.

[quote name="OLDREF" post="1028739" timestamp="1311797469"] LT. Dangle........ There is a lot of he said she said...we will do this if you will do that....kind of talk going on....I am frustrated with the whole situation, as are many officials.as well as coaches...This will be my last season in the Beaumont Chapter, and I would love for us to get back together....I have missed calling for schools that fall under TASO....I AM MOVING TO DALLAS....and I plan on working in the North Dallas chapter after the first of the year....Stay tuned because when i leave I plan on giving my list of COACHING SUPERLATIVES. [/quote]It would stand to reason that if both groups would come to the same table, then that would eliminate the " he said, she said" routine, right? (it could all be hashed out on the spot?)

[quote name="OLDREF" post="1028739" timestamp="1311797469"] LT. Dangle........ There is a lot of he said she said...we will do this if you will do that....kind of talk going on....I am frustrated with the whole situation, as are many officials.as well as coaches...This will be my last season in the Beaumont Chapter, and I would love for us to get back together....I have missed calling for schools that fall under TASO....I AM MOVING TO DALLAS....and I plan on working in the North Dallas chapter after the first of the year....Stay tuned because when i leave I plan on giving my list of COACHING SUPERLATIVES. [/quote]Why not now?

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1028402" timestamp="1311710395"] [quote author=Lt. Dangle link=topic=86033.msg1028400#msg1028400 date=1311709879] What is the status of the 2 Beaumont ref chapters merging? Are yall going to get it done this summer? [/quote] From what I hear, not going to happen. Would like to hear from those two on this subject. [/quote] I think Zebra1 could shed some light on this subject if he would oblige ;) ;)

What is the status of the 2 Beaumont ref chapters merging? Are yall going to get it done this summer?

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="1027249" timestamp="1311304665"] HJ added Kobe Bryant since the NBA is in a lockout!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D [/quote]As well as adding Clay Davis as Player-Coach.

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1026389" timestamp="1311130087"] Coach Issacs is a good coach and a fantastic person. Wish him all the best with his new position! Now, who gets the Spurger job? [/quote] Andrews from East Chambers.

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1026630" timestamp="1311203594"] [quote author=BADSANTA link=topic=85748.msg1026625#msg1026625 date=1311202839] Tigervoice Farce? You mean fierce playa? Who is Silsbee interviewing? Ira? Joubert? Hancock? [b]Burris[/b]? Sigler? [/quote] Burris? You really are out of touch. [/quote] SIGLER???? Yeah Right

[quote name="BADSANTA" post="1026243" timestamp="1311094927"] Salary difference is 3k per year from Kountze to Silsbee. AD job will pay 68k in Kountze and the head coach job in Silsbee will pay about 65. [/quote] What happened to Stevenson as Kountze AD?

[quote name="Malcolm X" post="1024453" timestamp="1310606030"] T. Williams getting his 5 assistant now. Soon as he find his guys he's gone. Silsbee job, Nash or Josh Hancock will be the next coach. By the way New Waverly's Goofney  will be taking the Longviee job!! [/quote] "Goofney"...I hope that is a fat-fingered typo because Goffney is an excellent coach & a great guy.

[quote name="Mr.Mikasa" post="1023982" timestamp="1310482918"] just to keep everything real, she had 20pts. and it was 2ots. but to think she wont help Buna is RIDICULOUS!!!!! [/quote] I didn't say she wouldn't help, just that she wouldn't be a factor to beat EC with.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1021134" timestamp="1309292012"] [quote author=Bone Daddy link=topic=85288.msg1021129#msg1021129 date=1309289708] I heard through the "Blue" grapevine that the 2 ref chapters settled their lawsuit. What exactly does that mean for SETX basketball?  :o :o [/quote]Whew! I thought this was going to be another ref bashing thread. Good question- hope we get answers. I personally know some refs who read this forum. [/quote] Dove, I heard yesterday that there was a high level meeting with refs & coaches @ the "Butch Bowl" on Monday.

[quote name="PoppaBearstarr" post="1024169" timestamp="1310528739"] I hope that you get a good one...Just no staff from HJ... :D [/quote] They can't afford any of that staff....without a separate bond election ;D ;D

[quote name="stevenash" post="1022345" timestamp="1309871000"] The Horns will walk through the district with none of their wins being by less than 10 points. [/quote] Now that might be something that Vegas could sink their teeth into!!!!

They need to merge the two groups back together but it is highly doubtful....seems there is ONE person holding up the whole process.  ;D

Don't think it will matter much. They will still have to deal with EC & that won't be easy at all. It looks like with Carrington,Way,East,George & Franzin....they should take that 2A district handily.