How Does The Future Look For HJ Basketball?

[BLUEDOVE3]

Time to pick on my friends in Sour Country ;D Now lets try and break this down by class years.

2010: No use in discussing HJ will be in the hunt

2011: Change Is Gonna Come :(

2012:  :'( :'( = crying years

2013:    :'( :'(

2014:      :'( :'( :'( :'( :-[

2015:        :'( :'( :'( :'( :-[ :-[

2016:          :'( :'( :'( :'( :-[

[AggiesAreWe]

Nice to know that Silsbee is not in this conversation. ;) ;D

[BLUEDOVE3]

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="922779" timestamp="1291137700"]
Nice to know that Silsbee is not in this conversation. ;) ;D
[/quote]Realistically speaking, Silsbee has that 9th grade team that will make some noise in the future. I didn't want to mention them because I know you're from there

[Guest speechless]

i hear hj is already researching the consequences/costs of cancelling the program all together

[BLUEDOVE3]

[quote name="speechless" post="922786" timestamp="1291137977"]
i hear hj is already researching the consequences/costs of cancelling the program all together
[/quote] :D I love it!

[stevenash]

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="922776" timestamp="1291137588"]
Time to pick on my friends in Sour Country ;D Now lets try and break this down by class years.

2010: No use in discussing HJ will be in the hunt

2011: Change Is Gonna Come :(

2012:   :'( :'( = crying years

2013:     :'( :'(

2014:       :'( :'( :'( :'( :-[

2015:         :'( :'( :'( :'( :-[ :-[

2016:          :'( :'( :'( :'( :-[
[/quote]

Regarding your quote on 2011-  Our president told us the same thing-  So far, it does not appear as though there was much "change we could believe in".  If the president cannot get it done, how are you going to do it, Dove?

[Betrayed]

[quote name="stevenash" post="922810" timestamp="1291140028"]
[quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=76848.msg922776#msg922776 date=1291137588]
Time to pick on my friends in Sour Country ;D Now lets try and break this down by class years.

2010: No use in discussing HJ will be in the hunt

2011: Change Is Gonna Come :(

2012:   :'( :'( = crying years

2013:     :'( :'(

2014:       :'( :'( :'( :'( :-[

2015:         :'( :'( :'( :'( :-[ :-[

2016:          :'( :'( :'( :'( :-[
[/quote]

Regarding your quote on 2011-  Our president told us the same thing-  So far, it does not appear as though there was much "change we could believe in".  If the president cannot get it done, how are you going to do it, Dove?
[/quote]These 2 guys are suppose to be "Hawk Killas" and put H.F on the Map!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ypzt_T_7syM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0r7PdUCn4k

[Tinker]

[quote name="Scalabrine" post="922814" timestamp="1291140399"]
[quote author=stevenash link=topic=76848.msg922810#msg922810 date=1291140028]
[quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=76848.msg922776#msg922776 date=1291137588]
Time to pick on my friends in Sour Country ;D Now lets try and break this down by class years.

2010: No use in discussing HJ will be in the hunt

2011: Change Is Gonna Come :(

2012:   :'( :'( = crying years

2013:     :'( :'(

2014:       :'( :'( :'( :'( :-[

2015:         :'( :'( :'( :'( :-[ :-[

2016:          :'( :'( :'( :'( :-[
[/quote]

Regarding your quote on 2011-  Our president told us the same thing-  So far, it does not appear as though there was much "change we could believe in".  If the president cannot get it done, how are you going to do it, Dove?
[/quote]These 2 guys are suppose to be "Hawk Killas" and put H.F on the Map!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ypzt_T_7syM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0r7PdUCn4k
[/quote]Dose not even show the basket. And it's alot harder when you are being guarded to make that shot.

[BLUEDOVE3]

[quote name="stevenash" post="922810" timestamp="1291140028"]
[quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=76848.msg922776#msg922776 date=1291137588]
Time to pick on my friends in Sour Country ;D Now lets try and break this down by class years.

2010: No use in discussing HJ will be in the hunt

2011: Change Is Gonna Come :(

2012:   :'( :'( = crying years

2013:     :'( :'(

2014:       :'( :'( :'( :'( :-[

2015:         :'( :'( :'( :'( :-[ :-[

2016:          :'( :'( :'( :'( :-[
[/quote]

Regarding your quote on 2011-  Our president told us the same thing-  So far, it does not appear as though there was much "change we could believe in".  If the president cannot get it done, how are you going to do it, Dove?
[/quote]wHO AM i TO MAKE A BLIND MAN SEE THAT HE HAS ON TWO RIGHT SHOES?

[BLUEDOVE3]

Stevie, I think Sutherland has his work cut out for him for the next few years. He needs a new challenge in district play. :D

[BLUEDOVE3]

[quote name="Tinker" post="922822" timestamp="1291141393"]
[quote author=Scalabrine link=topic=76848.msg922814#msg922814 date=1291140399]
[quote author=stevenash link=topic=76848.msg922810#msg922810 date=1291140028]
[quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=76848.msg922776#msg922776 date=1291137588]
Time to pick on my friends in Sour Country ;D Now lets try and break this down by class years.

2010: No use in discussing HJ will be in the hunt

2011: Change Is Gonna Come :(

2012:   :'( :'( = crying years

2013:     :'( :'(

2014:       :'( :'( :'( :'( :-[

2015:         :'( :'( :'( :'( :-[ :-[

2016:          :'( :'( :'( :'( :-[
[/quote]

Regarding your quote on 2011-  Our president told us the same thing-  So far, it does not appear as though there was much "change we could believe in".  If the president cannot get it done, how are you going to do it, Dove?
[/quote]These 2 guys are suppose to be "Hawk Killas" and put H.F on the Map!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ypzt_T_7syM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0r7PdUCn4k
[/quote]Dose not even show the basket. And it's alot harder when you are being guarded to make that shot.
[/quote]That was just a practice session. Don't you hate those You Tube videos with the players making every shot they throw up?

[stevenash]

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="922835" timestamp="1291142893"]
Stevie, I think Sutherland has his work cut out for him for the next few years. He needs a new challenge in district play. :D
[/quote]  Do you have any idea how many times "Sutherland has had his work cut out for him"?

[AggiesAreWe]

[quote name="stevenash" post="922869" timestamp="1291146194"]
[quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=76848.msg922835#msg922835 date=1291142893]
Stevie, I think Sutherland has his work cut out for him for the next few years. He needs a new challenge in district play. :D
[/quote]  Do you have any idea how many times "Sutherland has had his work cut out for him"?


[/quote]

That's a myth (even though Sutherland and his coaching staff do work hard). HJ has had as much talent at the 3A level as anyone has in this area. They have basketball players, contrary to what some might think.

[BLUEDOVE3]

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="922871" timestamp="1291146444"]
[quote author=stevenash link=topic=76848.msg922869#msg922869 date=1291146194]
[quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=76848.msg922835#msg922835 date=1291142893]
Stevie, I think Sutherland has his work cut out for him for the next few years. He needs a new challenge in district play. :D
[/quote]  Do you have any idea how many times "Sutherland has had his work cut out for him"?


[/quote]

That's a myth (even though Sutherland and his coaching staff do work hard). HJ has had as much talent at the 3A level as anyone has in this area. They have basketball players, contrary to what some might think.
[/quote]I've never heard you say this about HF, WHY NOT?

[AggiesAreWe]

Maybe because of the HF parents that try to dictate who should be playing for HF and not the coach. ;) ;D

Got promote those wannabees. ;D

[BLUEDOVE3]

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="922883" timestamp="1291146915"]
Maybe because of the HF parents that try to dictate who should be playing for HF and not the coach. ;) ;D

Got promote those wannabees. ;D
[/quote]yeah right! Evade the question.

[stevenash]

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="922871" timestamp="1291146444"]
[quote author=stevenash link=topic=76848.msg922869#msg922869 date=1291146194]
[quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=76848.msg922835#msg922835 date=1291142893]
Stevie, I think Sutherland has his work cut out for him for the next few years. He needs a new challenge in district play. :D
[/quote]  Do you have any idea how many times "Sutherland has had his work cut out for him"?


[/quote]

That's a myth (even though Sutherland and his coaching staff do work hard). HJ has had as much talent at the 3A level as anyone has in this area. They have basketball players, contrary to what some might think.
[/quote] My point was NOT whether or not they had basketball players but rather how many times somebody has said "well, they were good last year, but its not looking so bright this year".  HJ has never been blessed with a lot of athleticism but they compensate for that with some very good basketball intellect developed over the years by a good little dribblers program and a competent high school staff that recognizes how to deal with the "short on athletes but long on understanding the game" issues.

[BLUEDOVE3]

[quote name="stevenash" post="922900" timestamp="1291148069"]
[quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=76848.msg922871#msg922871 date=1291146444]
[quote author=stevenash link=topic=76848.msg922869#msg922869 date=1291146194]
[quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=76848.msg922835#msg922835 date=1291142893]
Stevie, I think Sutherland has his work cut out for him for the next few years. He needs a new challenge in district play. :D
[/quote]  Do you have any idea how many times "Sutherland has had his work cut out for him"?


[/quote]

That's a myth (even though Sutherland and his coaching staff do work hard). HJ has had as much talent at the 3A level as anyone has in this area. They have basketball players, contrary to what some might think.
[/quote] My point was NOT whether or not they had basketball players but rather how many times somebody has said "well, they were good last year, but its not looking so bright this year".  HJ has never been blessed with a lot of athleticism but they compensate for that with some very good basketball intellect developed over the years by a good little dribblers program and a competent high school staff that recognizes how to deal with the "short on athletes but long on understanding the game" issues.
[/quote]In all seriousness Stevie, I agree with your comments 100%. It does prove you don't need athleticism to have a good team. You guys obviously have a good system for the kids to thrive in while at HJ. I've never seen HJ play but somebody over there have those kids believing in the system. Plus, Sutherland has an ear to his middle school program.

[Lazeek]

Dove if you were smart you would move those two boys of yours to HJ to where they can excel!!!!!  I could see them playing with Carr, Bosha, Mithcell......be a pretty salty starting 5 for a few years!!!!

[AggiesAreWe]

Probably be a much better fit with that freshmen group from Silsbee. ;) ;D

[Tiger05]

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="922935" timestamp="1291152651"]
Probably be a much better fit with that freshmen group from Silsbee. ;) ;D
[/quote]

With those 2 added to the Silsbee freshman squad that would be a state championship team for sure  ;)

I don't think HF can win state with 2 good players & a bunch of HF regulars   :D :D :D

[east texas bb]

HJ has a good tradition.  They will most likely continue to be successful.  Good coaches, admin, good atmosphere for basketball. HJ usually has a 8-10 point advantage going into the game just because of their name.  They have won for so long, most schools whether they know it or not will be intimidated just by their name.  They may have a year or two of being down but as long as they keep doing things the way they do them they will overall be successful, just as in the past.  And by the way I am not from HJ, have no ties at all.

[BLUEDOVE3]

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="922935" timestamp="1291152651"]
Probably be a much better fit with that freshmen group from Silsbee. ;) ;D
[/quote]That Silsbee freshmen group is going to be scary.Mixed in with upperclassmen leadership, surely this team is going places.

[BLUEDOVE3]

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="922933" timestamp="1291152508"]
Dove if you were smart you would move those two boys of yours to HJ to where they can excel!!!!!  I could see them playing with Carr, Bosha, Mithcell......be a pretty salty starting 5 for a few years!!!!
[/quote]AggiesAreWeWannabe would report us to UIL 8)

[bmrm]

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="922776" timestamp="1291137588"]
Time to pick on my friends in Sour Country ;D Now lets try and break this down by class years.

2010: No use in discussing HJ will be in the hunt

2011: Change Is Gonna Come :(

2012:   :'( :'( = crying years

2013:     :'( :'(

2014:       :'( :'( :'( :'( :-[

2015:         :'( :'( :'( :'( :-[ :-[

2016:          :'( :'( :'( :'( :-[
[/quote]
Dove I don't think any change in 2011.  That team only lost to Kelly & Barbers Hill in their freshman year & went undefeated in district beating all 21-3A opponents by double digits.  Now you add Bosha, Mitchell, Carr, etc. to that team.......I feel they will be very difficult for HF to beat next year.