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Sunbelt is currently better than CUSA. Maybe not for the long term. However, it will be easier for a Sunbelt team vs a CUSA, BE, MWC to make a BCS Bowl in new post season play.

I ran a few simulations against SLC teams, Lamar loses to Houston Baptist and Nichols st in Beaumont by 6-11 points.

This team is the worst in all Lamar MBB history.

ULL lost to Mcneese. Lamar may not win another game all year.

[quote name="1KatKiller" post="1352717" timestamp="1355098950"] Don't see that happening. [/quote]Of course it is not happening. "What I think should happen" should have been a hint.

[quote name="Green Menace" post="1352424" timestamp="1355063862"] ODU and UNC-Charlotte are moving to CUSA.  Many feel these additions were made to appease East Carolina Univ, who subsequently decided to move to the Big East along with Tulane.  Thanks guys! Neither of those additions would have been my first choices.  CUSA should have gone after Georgia Southern.  Good FCS program with history. [/quote]Forget them, would not and old rival like Lamar interest UNT fans more than Southern. Lamar fans would travel in football and MBB to Denton over Southern. What needs to happen is CUSA grab Lamar, State, and ULL then drop Charlotte, ODU, and Fla's schools.

[quote name="LUSportsFan" post="1351832" timestamp="1354991662"] [quote author=UNLV link=topic=107213.msg1351810#msg1351810 date=1354989120] [quote author=LUSportsFan link=topic=107213.msg1351795#msg1351795 date=1354987659] [quote author=UNLV link=topic=107213.msg1351212#msg1351212 date=1354930258] [quote author=badndn link=topic=107213.msg1351130#msg1351130 date=1354926610] I got an honest question and don't answer like an LU Homer, where is the WOW factor for the press and current members in the SBC in bringing back a former member that didn't WOW you last time before they jumped ship for smaller pastures? [/quote]There is none. They hate Lamar. Some has asked moderators to delete any thread or post about Lamar to the SBC. All sweeter when LU get a FBS invite. [/quote] Besides, the Sun Belt has already brought back a former member.  Georgia State returns as a conference member next year. May not have WOWed anyone, but we did have some championships while there. Baseball - 2  (one more in our relatively short time than 5 longer time members) Womens Basketball - 1 (vacated by NCAA due to recruiting violations) Womens Golf - 4 Womens Tennis - 1 Remember, football didn't start in the Sun Belt until after we left and we weren't playing football during those years.  Basketball and Baseball were the main sports back then.  We were very competitive in baseball. Our record in basketball, though not stellar, was comparable to many of the conference members.  Even so, the worst years were the Mike Newell years recovering from the Tony Branch era and the Grey Giovanine years recovering from the turmoil during and following Mike Newell's resignation.  It's not like we got blown out in every game we played.  We left the conference as a conference basketball tournament semi-finalist. [/quote]If my memory is correct, UTPA and BE current member UCF was the 2 worst MBB schools. [/quote] That's what I recall also. I think a lot of people have selective memories.  One of the things I've seen on the Sun Belt Board is "lack of support".  We were in the top three in basketball attendance several of the years with average attendance picking up again our last year.  We were never anywhere close to the bottom in attendance in any year. Below are the max attendance numbers for each year.  Average attendance ranged from a low of 2,294 in Giovanine's first year to 4,442 in our last year in the conference.  Numbers are from the 2012-2013 Men's Basketball Info Guide on Lamar's athletics site.    1991-1992  5,642  1992-1993  8,033  1993-1994  3,876  (Throw that one out.  :)  ) 1994-1995  4,142  1995-1996  8,454  1996-1997  5,089  1997-1998  7,584 [/quote]Compare those numbers with moving to the SLC,.

[quote name="puddin tane" post="1350533" timestamp="1354836731"] now divide golden triangle by half----those that still wear their 1970's letter jacket and havent a clue as to where the campus is [/quote]Something Lamar can cure with right leadership.

[quote name="Wreckem2011" post="1351793" timestamp="1354987501"] Right now I think SHSU gets the nod over Lamar. I am ready for that MWC invite we were told that was going to happen. [/quote]Stop using cola's logic... ;D  Just because SHSU has 2 good football years does not mean they are going FBS. SHSU is lacking in community size.They won't go FBS until they resolve that issue.

[quote name="LUSportsFan" post="1351795" timestamp="1354987659"] [quote author=UNLV link=topic=107213.msg1351212#msg1351212 date=1354930258] [quote author=badndn link=topic=107213.msg1351130#msg1351130 date=1354926610] I got an honest question and don't answer like an LU Homer, where is the WOW factor for the press and current members in the SBC in bringing back a former member that didn't WOW you last time before they jumped ship for smaller pastures? [/quote]There is none. They hate Lamar. Some has asked moderators to delete any thread or post about Lamar to the SBC. All sweeter when LU get a FBS invite. [/quote] Besides, the Sun Belt has already brought back a former member.  Georgia State returns as a conference member next year. May not have WOWed anyone, but we did have some championships while there. Baseball - 2  (one more in our relatively short time than 5 longer time members) Womens Basketball - 1 (vacated by NCAA due to recruiting violations) Womens Golf - 4 Womens Tennis - 1 Remember, football didn't start in the Sun Belt until after we left and we weren't playing football during those years.  Basketball and Baseball were the main sports back then.  We were very competitive in baseball. Our record in basketball, though not stellar, was comparable to many of the conference members.  Even so, the worst years were the Mike Newell years recovering from the Tony Branch era and the Grey Giovanine years recovering from the turmoil during and following Mike Newell's resignation.  It's not like we got blown out in every game we played.  We left the conference as a conference basketball tournament semi-finalist. [/quote]If my memory is correct, UTPA and BE current member UCF was the 2 worst MBB schools.

[quote name="coachacola" post="1351258" timestamp="1354931269"] [quote author=UNLV link=topic=107213.msg1351223#msg1351223 date=1354930435] Some say Tulsa, UTEP, and Rice could leave CUSA. This could open the door for Lamar to CUSA if the CSN deal is real. [/quote] Ark State, ULL, and/or WKU will go to the CUSA over LU, but that probably means the Sun Belt will ask Lamar to join.  When Lamar joins the Sun Belt will probably be mostly recent FCS move ups. [/quote]Cola you always make the same mistake in your logic. Lamar by itself does not get the CUSA invite over Ark st, ULL, or WK. HOWEVER, If Rice leaves CUSA and there is a tv deal between Comcast and Lamar, Lamar would be in the Houston market. CUSA wants in the Houston market tv's. Lamar could also agree to play a few big names schools in Houston for CUSA. Therefore, Lamar/Comcast/Houston is greater than Jonesboro, Lafayette, and Bowling Green.

Some say Tulsa, UTEP, and Rice could leave CUSA. This could open the door for Lamar to CUSA if the CSN deal is real.

[quote name="badndn" post="1351130" timestamp="1354926610"] I got an honest question and don't answer like an LU Homer, where is the WOW factor for the press and current members in the SBC in bringing back a former member that didn't WOW you last time before they jumped ship for smaller pastures? [/quote]There is none. They hate Lamar. Some has asked moderators to delete any thread or post about Lamar to the SBC. All sweeter when LU get a FBS invite.

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="1351041" timestamp="1354913929"] As the world turns............ LU within the past few days has been in contact with the SBC. [/quote]So Lamar is in contact with the SBC. I feel so puddin tane....confused.

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="1350727" timestamp="1354855723"] [quote author=UNLV link=topic=107213.msg1350618#msg1350618 date=1354844732] [quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=107213.msg1350254#msg1350254 date=1354812069] Lamar WILL NOT be in this expansion to the SBC.  Guaranteed!!! [/quote]Katfans put you up to this.  >:( [/quote] No, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out.  LU has not been in contact, or if they have.....nobody in the athletic department knows about it. [/quote]I am a rocket scientist....seriously. But anyway, someone in another thread, claiming to be in the know, says Lamar is in contact with the SBC. Which is it?

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="1350254" timestamp="1354812069"] Lamar WILL NOT be in this expansion to the SBC.  Guaranteed!!! [/quote]Katfans put you up to this.  >:(

Internet rumor Sunbelt to add 2 schools in next 10 days. Matt Peloquin‏ @NCAAsports Quote: Sun Belt likely to expand by 2 over next 10 days w/ top candidate pool: Georgia Southern, Appalachian St, Jacksonville St, NMSU Jax st and App st are not any of the 2.  I'm thinking NMSU, Idaho, GSU, and Lamar are top 4 candidates.

Waco MSA 234,000 Lubbock MSA  290,000 Beaumont/PAT MSA 388,000 BTW, Dykes accepted job at Cal.

[quote name="NorthoftheBorder" post="1349674" timestamp="1354723353"] [quote author=Green Menace link=topic=106460.msg1349329#msg1349329 date=1354669016] [i]"Yeah, ark st and ULL will join Tulsa and go MWC. Hahahaha. oh my i'm dying. "[/i] That's only half of it.  Some are talking about Arkansas State  and the Big 12 in the same sentence, as in moving to the B12 conference.  Now "that" is hilarious! [/quote] One of the most laughable scenarios I have heard.  Give the Ark State fans credit for reaching for the stars, but the BIG 12 will not inhabit Jonesboro Ark, just like they wont with Beaumont TX! [/quote]Is the problem Beaumont or Lamar because Waco and Lubbock is in the Big XII.

I hope this is part of the plan.

[quote name="SabineRavine" post="1347685" timestamp="1354475992"] [quote author=UNLV link=topic=106460.msg1347644#msg1347644 date=1354469695]You do understand the people who write the articles are people like you and I and the opinion section under the article. The author is not a supreme being which is why I pointed out the comment  section and everyone laughing at the dufus who thinks Boise st has a shot at the PAC 12. [/quote] My god, I have no idea what you are talking about in that reply.  Fact is, you said there is no way the Pac-10 would ever take Boise.  I provided a direct link to quotes from the Pac-10 commissioner stating otherwise.  Have a great day! [/quote] Boise State and San Diego State were mentioned as potential targets, which doesn't really make any sense. San Diego is a good geographical market and has decent academics and athletics, but there doesn't seem to be any real benefit to trying to build up the Southern California market when USC and UCLA cannibalize most of the market share. And Boise is just going to be a tough fit by any means; outside of football, there is no real added benefit to trying to bring the two. Of course, these were just mentioned as potential regional targets. I doubt either is realistic. [Hidden Content]

[quote name="jdcurran235" post="1348924" timestamp="1354639220"] [quote author=UNLV link=topic=106460.msg1348846#msg1348846 date=1354632215] [quote author=puddin tane link=topic=106460.msg1348578#msg1348578 date=1354583530] [quote author=UNLV link=topic=106460.msg1348238#msg1348238 date=1354550203] [quote author=SabineRavine link=topic=106460.msg1348145#msg1348145 date=1354536055] [quote author=UNLV link=topic=106460.msg1348100#msg1348100 date=1354509814] Sabine and I are like 2 little chick-a-dees fighting over a worm. cheep cheep cheep my worm. [/quote] I don't understand why you would bring the word 'fighting' into the discussion.  All I've ever done is point out your inconsistencies and call you out on failing to report any sources for your 'inside information' that you obtained from various message boards. If anything I would compare it as one chickadee chirping about knowing where all the big worms are at but never showing any evidence, never revealing the location, and changing the subject whenever challenged. [/quote]LOL, gotta love this guy. big worm, lol. So what are your thoughts on the LA Tech disaster? [/quote] techsters got what they deserved..."hold on, we may get a better offer"-----fun to watch,tho....rather watch them than about 20 of the skools going to bowls.... [/quote]I wonder if Dykes would leave? This will effect recruiting. [/quote] apparently on the sunbelt board they are saying more schools are rumored to leave.  If you can believe anything on that board. [/quote]Yeah, ark st and ULL will join Tulsa and go MWC. Hahahaha. oh my i'm dying. Any news on Lamar. SBC meetings?

[quote name="puddin tane" post="1348578" timestamp="1354583530"] [quote author=UNLV link=topic=106460.msg1348238#msg1348238 date=1354550203] [quote author=SabineRavine link=topic=106460.msg1348145#msg1348145 date=1354536055] [quote author=UNLV link=topic=106460.msg1348100#msg1348100 date=1354509814] Sabine and I are like 2 little chick-a-dees fighting over a worm. cheep cheep cheep my worm. [/quote] I don't understand why you would bring the word 'fighting' into the discussion.  All I've ever done is point out your inconsistencies and call you out on failing to report any sources for your 'inside information' that you obtained from various message boards. If anything I would compare it as one chickadee chirping about knowing where all the big worms are at but never showing any evidence, never revealing the location, and changing the subject whenever challenged. [/quote]LOL, gotta love this guy. big worm, lol. So what are your thoughts on the LA Tech disaster? [/quote] techsters got what they deserved..."hold on, we may get a better offer"-----fun to watch,tho....rather watch them than about 20 of the skools going to bowls.... [/quote]I wonder if Dykes would leave? This will effect recruiting.

[quote name="jdcurran235" post="1348274" timestamp="1354553365"] [quote author=UNLV link=topic=106460.msg1348238#msg1348238 date=1354550203] [quote author=SabineRavine link=topic=106460.msg1348145#msg1348145 date=1354536055] [quote author=UNLV link=topic=106460.msg1348100#msg1348100 date=1354509814] Sabine and I are like 2 little chick-a-dees fighting over a worm. cheep cheep cheep my worm. [/quote] I don't understand why you would bring the word 'fighting' into the discussion.  All I've ever done is point out your inconsistencies and call you out on failing to report any sources for your 'inside information' that you obtained from various message boards. If anything I would compare it as one chickadee chirping about knowing where all the big worms are at but never showing any evidence, never revealing the location, and changing the subject whenever challenged. [/quote]LOL, gotta love this guy. big worm, lol. So what are your thoughts on the LA Tech disaster? [/quote] Wow, I am losing IQ points by just reading this conversation.  Can we go back to sunbelt expansion? [/quote]We got big worms and rat rump shaking, whats not to like here. SBC is a waiting game. Might as well talk about something while we wait. Although I want to see the stadium expansion plans. If we go 30k-35k, we could get some big names here.