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[quote name="Joharr73" post="1054024" timestamp="1315666502"] Funny how it's always the team that lost to West Hardin is "Weak or Terrible".  :o  Could be that West Hardin has some really good talent & the coaching staff is putting together game plans that maximize their players abilities.  Sooooo.... what will everyone say next Saturday if the Oilers beat the Lions? I'm going to give Hardin credit where due.  They had a couple of drives where they got close to the endzone, but the Oiler defense shut them down.  The Hornets do have some talented players, I just think the Oiler speed was too much to overcome for them. [/quote]Don't sugar coat it the Hornets are TERRIBLE!  West Hardin does look pretty good and wish them, luck in district beat the CATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[quote name="H-D BOBCAT 55" post="1049405" timestamp="1315168112"] Kountze 42 Tarkington 6 [/quote]I AGREE TOTALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[quote name="wildcats35" post="1046318" timestamp="1314916905"] Haynes and Hardin hasnt tried to develop anyone in the earlier grades.  I remember a few years ago their varsity was loaded and the JV and JH teams were really down.....sooner or later if you are down you have to think about trying to develop what you have if you know you are not going to be very good down the road.  SOME coaches are what I like to call "talent jumpers".  They coach up the good ones and forget the rest and leave.  I get coaches want to get better jobs down the road but you have to coachem all while you are there. Just an opinion. As a coach you have to try to coach them all! [/quote]EXACTLY GREAT POST

[quote name="raiderfan2010" post="1045063" timestamp="1314736804"] [quote author=BACK IN THE DAY link=topic=87365.msg1045055#msg1045055 date=1314736479] [quote author=utfan06 link=topic=87365.msg1044636#msg1044636 date=1314709065] West Hardin wins big... Oilers good go undefeated until they play Kountze :-) [/quote]Is Coach Pickens still at West Hardin, really liked him when he was at Hardin. [/quote] He is .. Such a nice man .. comes off really gruff but loves the kids !!! [/quote]Coached my oldest, do believe he is the reason he's playing college ball now.  Gets them strong and fast with discipline.

[quote name="kcat-fan" post="1043864" timestamp="1314628309"] [quote author=XPANTHER03 link=topic=87368.msg1043860#msg1043860 date=1314628143] Torn ACL. [/quote]Thats horrible, what an athlete. hate to hear that....best wishes on his recovery :( [/quote]

[quote name="ECBucFan" post="1045054" timestamp="1314736410"] [quote author=BACK IN THE DAY link=topic=87366.msg1045047#msg1045047 date=1314736016] [quote author=ECBucFan link=topic=87366.msg1044070#msg1044070 date=1314643601] [quote author=BACK IN THE DAY link=topic=87366.msg1043970#msg1043970 date=1314636523] Hardin winless for the season possibly West Hardin only chance. [/quote]Stadium is not new same old grass with new visitor sides far cry from new What? Don't you realize you are talking about Hardin, the greatest show on turf?  ;) [/quote]Don't be a hater because you continue to have to play in an old rice field. [/quote] I don't play in an old rice field. I do however, watch the Bucs win District Championships, and their stadium is new.  8) [/quote]

[quote name="utfan06" post="1044636" timestamp="1314709065"] West Hardin wins big... Oilers good go undefeated until they play Kountze :-) [/quote]Is Coach Pickens still at West Hardin, really liked him when he was at Hardin. 

[quote name="LP0175" post="1044335" timestamp="1314665181"] Huffman has a higher than several hisd schools: kashmere (596), jones (686), furr (865), b.t. washington is slightly larger wih 946. La marque has 996 students. So does the difference in enrollment make a substantial difference on the 3A level and lower? [/quote]So why are y'all playing Hardin with numbers barely in the 300's and boasting when you ran over them, not impressive for a school size of Liberty to beat Hardin but Very Impressive when little Hardin blew y'all out of the stadium.

[quote name="H-D BOBCAT 55" post="1043895" timestamp="1314630981"] Well... I am looking forward to H-D playing a game without fumbling 6 times. H-D has the Coaches and athletes to have a good year. If H-D can solve it's turnover issues, the Bobcats will once again make the playoffs. Marberry, Drake, Edmondson, Hickman, Taylor and Downs are some of the best athletes in the district. Pulling for the CATS H-D 28 Iola 14 [/quote]

[quote name="ECBucFan" post="1044070" timestamp="1314643601"] [quote author=BACK IN THE DAY link=topic=87366.msg1043970#msg1043970 date=1314636523] Hardin winless for the season possibly West Hardin only chance. [/quote] What? Don't you realize you are talking about Hardin, the greatest show on turf?  ;) [/quote]Don't be a hater because you continue to have to play in an old rice field.

[quote name="H-D BOBCAT 55" post="1042630" timestamp="1314465406"] [quote author=eaba26 link=topic=87232.msg1042563#msg1042563 date=1314460483] Fumbles are causes by lack of discipline.  HD has some great athletes and "should" win many games.  They just need to become a team and have better discipline.  I will always root for them to win and hope they have a great season.  How are you 55. [/quote] I'm blessed. You? I agree execution and discipline. [/quote]Man don't blame the coach for a bad performance on your team.  Coach Slack is a class act. 

[quote name="cat001" post="1043849" timestamp="1314627272"] Both teams coming off a loss in week 0, who rebounds and gets that first win this week? [/quote]Believe I'll take the Horns in this one by 1 touchdown.  Hardin winless for the season possibly West Hardin only chance.

[quote name="H-D BOBCAT 55" post="1038535" timestamp="1313893717"] I believe Liberty wins this one by 3 scores. Hardin has a good passing attack that picked H-D apart. The offensive scheme that Haynes runs is awesome. Hardin will score on Liberty via the air a few times. Problem is... Hardin is very small and young, also the Hornet defense can't stop the run. Liberty will have size in the trenches over Hardin. Neither teams are any good, neither makes the playoffs this year. But... Liberty wins this game 42-21. If they run at Hardin? [/quote]I agree Hardin unable to stop the run, could get ugly.  If Hardin jumps out front early could be long night for Liberty, if not very long night for Hardin.

Hull Daisetta

[quote name="BACK IN THE DAY" post="1037178" timestamp="1313705546"] [quote author=Dwack link=topic=86669.msg1036512#msg1036512 date=1313601681] [[/quote]No offense... but YALL are talking about Hardin winning playoff games and having awesome athletes. lol. H-D has had hundreds of awesome athletes that could have played for Eastern Dakota St. or where ever Stelly plays. Truth HD HAD SOME STUDS IN THE 80'Sof the matter is, if you make good grades and are a serious worker in the weight room, you can play college football. Maybe not D-1, but you can play at an Eastern Alaska St. There just is not that many of those kids out there, Stelly is one. Good post [/quote] The key word is "could have".  I am sure you and your boys will continue to tell yourselfs that while your standing around the campfire telling old has been stories.  The fact of the matter is to play college football you must have talent, heart, and want.  If a kid does not have a combination of all three forget making it in college, just ask all the kids that are back after one year.  I enjoy the history of Hull Daisetta football, and did not attend either school mentioned.  Just remember you don't have to downgrade anyone elses talent to bolster the Bobcats accomplishments. [/quote] [/quote]

[quote name="Dwack" post="1036512" timestamp="1313601681"] [[/quote]No offense... but YALL are talking about Hardin winning playoff games and having awesome athletes. lol. H-D has had hundreds of awesome athletes that could have played for Eastern Dakota St. or where ever Stelly plays. Truth of the matter is, if you make good grades and are a serious worker in the weight room, you can play college football. Maybe not D-1, but you can play at an Eastern Alaska St. There just is not that many of those kids out there, Stelly is one. Good post [/quote] The key word is "could have".  I am sure you and your boys will continue to tell yourselfs that while your standing around the campfire telling old has been stories.  The fact of the matter is to play college football you must have talent, heart, and want.  If a kid does not have a combination of all three forget making it in college, just ask all the kids that are back after one year.  I enjoy the history of Hull Daisetta football, and did not attend either school mentioned.  Just remember you don't have to downgrade anyone elses talent to bolster the Bobcats accomplishments. [/quote]

[quote name="HDcats0422" post="1036447" timestamp="1313593132"] Dusty Evans was one helluva QB...had a great arm and very accurate, but he'd also run you over! And yes my sophomore year we beat them in 7 on 7 [/quote]Man I watched loved watching that kid play. He was a pretty good baseball player also.

[quote name="BACK IN THE DAY" post="1036440" timestamp="1313592303"] [quote author=knows2much link=topic=86669.msg1036394#msg1036394 date=1313585348] [quote author=H-D BOBCAT 55 link=topic=86669.msg1036231#msg1036231 date=1313531072] [quote author=BACK IN THE DAY link=topic=86669.msg1036205#msg1036205 date=1313529357] [quote author=TEAM link=topic=86669.msg1035897#msg1035897 date=1313447880] My statement "I have not seen FOOTBALL played in Hardin" simply means, I have not seen a 3 dimensional Hardin team since 2000-2002. Which would be the last time Hardin had teams where they played Offense, Defense and Special teams and were extremely successful at all three of those aspects of the game. Has Hardin has good defenses and offenses since? Yes. But not at the same time, on one team. Pay attention to Hardin football better, or do not comment on this thread if you aren't familiar with the history of the program. [/quote]Hardin had size and talent back then but skill players were being played out of position.  Dont think they were any better or worse than the 2007/2008 team.  Depth is always a problem and Hardin was not 3 dimensional in 2000-2002, they were good and if they hadn't blown a lead over Garrison they would most likely won a state championship that year.  Garrison went on to blow everybody else out.  Harrison Gray sat on the sidelines when he should have seen some time on defense as a safety or linebacker too much talent to waste.  If Larry Haynes had that team who knows what numbers they could have put up with those skill kids. [/quote]No offense... but YALL are talking about Hardin winning playoff games and having awesome athletes. lol. H-D has had hundreds of awesome athletes that could have played for Eastern Dakota St. or where ever Stelly plays. Truth of the matter is, if you make good grades and are a serious worker in the weight room, you can play college football. Maybe not D-1, but you can play at an Eastern Alaska St. There just is not that many of those kids out there, Stelly is one. [quote author=knows2much link=topic=86669.msg1036388#msg1036388 date=1313584056] No offense... but YALL are talking about Hardin winning playoff games and having awesome athletes. lol. [b]H-D has had hundreds of awesome athletes that could have played for Eastern Dakota St. [/b] or where ever Stelly plays. Truth of the matter is, if you make good grades and are a serious worker in the weight room, you can play college football. Maybe not D-1, but you can play at an Eastern Alaska St. There just is not that many of those kids out there, Stelly is one. [/quote] Name 10 [/quote] In fact.  Name 1 since 2000 that has actually played somewhere.  I can name some from Hardin if you like. Joey Nunan - Stephen F. Austin State University Charles Bolds - Souwhestern Oklahoma State University Brent Anderson - University of Texas Dallas Cedric Reescano - Stephen F. Austin State University Derrick Reescano - South Plains Junior College John Stelley - Southeastern Oklahoma State University Jordan Nolan - Milsaps College Daniel Marsh - Blynn Junior College Mitch Villamez - Blynn Junior College That's just since 2000.  And I may have missed somebody. [/quote]Stelly- Northeastern State University [/quote]A couple of kids went to East Texas Baptist but didn't stick it out.

[quote name="H-D BOBCAT 55" post="1036231" timestamp="1313531072"] [quote author=BACK IN THE DAY link=topic=86669.msg1036205#msg1036205 date=1313529357] [quote author=TEAM link=topic=86669.msg1035897#msg1035897 date=1313447880] My statement "I have not seen FOOTBALL played in Hardin" simply means, I have not seen a 3 dimensional Hardin team since 2000-2002. Which would be the last time Hardin had teams where they played Offense, Defense and Special teams and were extremely successful at all three of those aspects of the game. Has Hardin has good defenses and offenses since? Yes. But not at the same time, on one team. Pay attention to Hardin football better, or do not comment on this thread if you aren't familiar with the history of the program. [/quote]Hardin had size and talent back then but skill players were being played out of position.  Dont think they were any better or worse than the 2007/2008 team.  Depth is always a problem and Hardin was not 3 dimensional in 2000-2002, they were good and if they hadn't blown a lead over Garrison they would most likely won a state championship that year.  Garrison went on to blow everybody else out.  Harrison Gray sat on the sidelines when he should have seen some time on defense as a safety or linebacker too much talent to waste.  If Larry Haynes had that team who knows what numbers they could have put up with those skill kids. [/quote]No offense... but YALL are talking about Hardin winning playoff games and having awesome athletes. lol. H-D has had hundreds of awesome athletes that could have played for Eastern Dakota St. or where ever Stelly plays. Truth of the matter is, if you make good grades and are a serious worker in the weight room, you can play college football. Maybe not D-1, but you can play at an Eastern Alaska St. There just is not that many of those kids out there, Stelly is one. [/quote]You know its sad when a person has to dog a kid to attempt to make there school look better, never discredited any player from HD becaue they have had some great ones just asked if any were still in college.  And know not all kids can play D-2 football,  if you look into the NFL lots of kids that are missed by D-1 schools because they dont take time to recruit small schools because of the number of athletes to look at is so small.  Good luck to both schools will be pulling for Coach Slack this year, not to excited about the Hornet program right now.  Not saying I'm defecting just not excited.

[quote name="H-D BOBCAT 55" post="1036231" timestamp="1313531072"] [quote author=BACK IN THE DAY link=topic=86669.msg1036205#msg1036205 date=1313529357] [quote author=TEAM link=topic=86669.msg1035897#msg1035897 date=1313447880] My statement "I have not seen FOOTBALL played in Hardin" simply means, I have not seen a 3 dimensional Hardin team since 2000-2002. Which would be the last time Hardin had teams where they played Offense, Defense and Special teams and were extremely successful at all three of those aspects of the game. Has Hardin has good defenses and offenses since? Yes. But not at the same time, on one team. Pay attention to Hardin football better, or do not comment on this thread if you aren't familiar with the history of the program. [/quote]Hardin had size and talent back then but skill players were being played out of position.  Dont think they were any better or worse than the 2007/2008 team.  Depth is always a problem and Hardin was not 3 dimensional in 2000-2002, they were good and if they hadn't blown a lead over Garrison they would most likely won a state championship that year.  Garrison went on to blow everybody else out.  Harrison Gray sat on the sidelines when he should have seen some time on defense as a safety or linebacker too much talent to waste.  If Larry Haynes had that team who knows what numbers they could have put up with those skill kids. [/quote]No offense... but YALL are talking about Hardin winning playoff games and having awesome athletes. lol. H-D has had hundreds of awesome athletes that could have played for Eastern Dakota St. or where ever Stelly plays. Truth of the matter is, if you make good grades and are a serious worker in the weight room, you can play college football. Maybe not D-1, but you can play at an Eastern Alaska St. There just is not that many of those kids out there, Stelly is one. [/quote]Stelly had options to transfer with full ride to Lamar and Texas State this Fall chose to stay in place. 

[quote name="BOBCAT@3D" post="1036225" timestamp="1313530645"] Hardin has had some good players in the past. But they where either played out of position or just used to much in the game. [/quote]I agree ran them into the ground

[quote name="knows2much" post="1036394" timestamp="1313585348"] [quote author=H-D BOBCAT 55 link=topic=86669.msg1036231#msg1036231 date=1313531072] [quote author=BACK IN THE DAY link=topic=86669.msg1036205#msg1036205 date=1313529357] [quote author=TEAM link=topic=86669.msg1035897#msg1035897 date=1313447880] My statement "I have not seen FOOTBALL played in Hardin" simply means, I have not seen a 3 dimensional Hardin team since 2000-2002. Which would be the last time Hardin had teams where they played Offense, Defense and Special teams and were extremely successful at all three of those aspects of the game. Has Hardin has good defenses and offenses since? Yes. But not at the same time, on one team. Pay attention to Hardin football better, or do not comment on this thread if you aren't familiar with the history of the program. [/quote]Hardin had size and talent back then but skill players were being played out of position.  Dont think they were any better or worse than the 2007/2008 team.  Depth is always a problem and Hardin was not 3 dimensional in 2000-2002, they were good and if they hadn't blown a lead over Garrison they would most likely won a state championship that year.  Garrison went on to blow everybody else out.  Harrison Gray sat on the sidelines when he should have seen some time on defense as a safety or linebacker too much talent to waste.  If Larry Haynes had that team who knows what numbers they could have put up with those skill kids. [/quote]No offense... but YALL are talking about Hardin winning playoff games and having awesome athletes. lol. H-D has had hundreds of awesome athletes that could have played for Eastern Dakota St. or where ever Stelly plays. Truth of the matter is, if you make good grades and are a serious worker in the weight room, you can play college football. Maybe not D-1, but you can play at an Eastern Alaska St. There just is not that many of those kids out there, Stelly is one. [quote author=knows2much link=topic=86669.msg1036388#msg1036388 date=1313584056] No offense... but YALL are talking about Hardin winning playoff games and having awesome athletes. lol. [b]H-D has had hundreds of awesome athletes that could have played for Eastern Dakota St. [/b] or where ever Stelly plays. Truth of the matter is, if you make good grades and are a serious worker in the weight room, you can play college football. Maybe not D-1, but you can play at an Eastern Alaska St. There just is not that many of those kids out there, Stelly is one. [/quote] Name 10 [/quote] In fact.  Name 1 since 2000 that has actually played somewhere.  I can name some from Hardin if you like. Joey Nunan - Stephen F. Austin State University Charles Bolds - Souwhestern Oklahoma State University Brent Anderson - University of Texas Dallas Cedric Reescano - Stephen F. Austin State University Derrick Reescano - South Plains Junior College John Stelley - Southeastern Oklahoma State University Jordan Nolan - Milsaps College Daniel Marsh - Blynn Junior College Mitch Villamez - Blynn Junior College That's just since 2000.  And I may have missed somebody. [/quote]Stelly- Northeastern State University

[quote name="HDcats0422" post="1036433" timestamp="1313591826"] Juan Gamez had many D1 schools looking at him, just had to get his grades up. Jason Elder (ETBU) Nick Lambert (Ranger) [/quote]You know Gamez was great, the player that came from HD that didn't go any where was the Quarterback think is name was (Dusty)that year he was fast and had a great arm.  Believe that was the year they beat Baytown Lee at 7 on 7.  The quaterback from Lee is in the NFL now.  Just shows between our two little schools alot of talent.  If the two schools were to merge what a football team.

[quote name="hornetmom76" post="1036316" timestamp="1313545189"] Just wondering where have you been? It's been like that for a couple of years now. Althoug I can say it's much better now that they've blacktopped the rest of the parking lot. My kids were super excited that they won't have to walk through the mud anymore. [/quote]Oh I've been around trust me, takes alot of money to get thing done, and still be able to give staff a cost of living raise.  Not many school districts can say that.

[quote name="H-D BOBCAT 55" post="1036431" timestamp="1313591481"] [quote author=H-D BOBCAT 55 link=topic=86669.msg1036430#msg1036430 date=1313591315] [quote author=knows2much link=topic=86669.msg1036388#msg1036388 date=1313584056] No offense... but YALL are talking about Hardin winning playoff games and having awesome athletes. lol. [b]H-D has had hundreds of awesome athletes that could have played for Eastern Dakota St. [/b] or where ever Stelly plays. Truth of the matter is, if you make good grades and are a serious worker in the weight room, you can play college football. Maybe not D-1, but you can play at an Eastern Alaska St. There just is not that many of those kids out there, Stelly is one. [/quote] Name 10 [/quote] The Top 25 H-D Bobcat Football Players of All Time IMO Revised: 1. Ross Echols(Houston), 2. Gene Walker(Rice), 3. Parnell Lykes, 4. George Westbrook, 5. Anthony Landry(Army), 6. Ed Taylor(Baylor), 7. Joe Allen Slack, 8. Juan Gamez(Ranger), 9. Stepheleon Whitfield, 10. Tony Thibedeaux(Ranger), 11. Robert Tanner, 12. David Cooper, 13. Arnell Lykes, 14. Larry Eaglin(Oilers), 15. Jim Arceneaux, 16. Ahmad Lambert, 17. T.J. Walker, 18. Thomas Rodgers(UTEP), 19. Eric Redfern, 20. Sedric Broussard, 21. Ashante Allen(Kilgore), 22. Stevie Broussard, 23. Kenneth Winters(SFA), 24. Johnny Downs, 25. Brandon Broom: FYI: Kade Brett(NSU) and Franklin Smith(Lamar) [/quote] Hardin has never had many, if any players of this caliber. [/quote]Obviously you are clueless!  And you list contains alot of D-3's that are not even in existance today.