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[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="910534" timestamp="1289920222"] As a fan, I would prefer Provost-Umphrey over Da Butch. Much better stadium to watch a game. As a broadcaster, I prefer Da Butch. The pressbox is much, much nicer and easier to work in than the pressbox at PU. [/quote] I expect vast improvements in the future to Lamar's Pressbox.

[quote name="AggiesWeAreNot" post="910362" timestamp="1289879684"] [quote author=bigred360 link=topic=75844.msg909872#msg909872 date=1289851526] He's teams have not produced very good numbers on the ground and that goes back to his days at SHSU. Ask one of their fan's that frequent the forum. I don't care if yards per sack are entered into the total number per rush attempts because it is the same for all DI schools. Less than 30 yards rushing and another game without a rushing TD says there is something missing be it the OC schemes, the OL, the RB's or all the above. We have to fix this problem in the offseason or next year will be a long one as SHSU is better, then there is SFA, McNeese, Texas State for a year and the rest of the SLC. We have to manage the game using our run game which keeps the clock moving and the defense off the field. Passing the ball, the clock stops with every incompletion or the player runs out of bounds or he makes a first down and the clock stops til the chains are moved. [/quote] You can use a short passing game in lieu of a running game.  And, in college, the clock only stops temporarily on out of bounds plays if I recall correctly.  I think this was a fairly recent rules change to speed the game up a bit. [/quote] You know for all the hype at Texas Tech about the air game under Mike Leach, they never won a championship.  I think you need some bubble screens and short passes in your playbook, but if that is all you got it aint going to win you the ring my friend.  You have to be able to run the ball.

[quote name="WOSgrad" post="907002" timestamp="1289671409"] Well, of course folks are going to have bias, that occurs in every poll.  But let me ask this, if you had a poll would you put a team that finished 3rd in its conference or league, would you place that team at the top of your poll? [/quote] You are a smart guy WOSGRAD.  If you were going to do an honest assesment of who you thoght would win between West Brook/Kirbyville, West Brook/Dayton and Dayton/Kirbyville, who would you pick as the team that would prevail in these matchups.  Whoever you pick to win 2 games is your number one team.  And if you have all of them going 1-1 (oh come on now) then you should have a 3 way tie.  I think we both know that mixing 3A in with 5A is causing some fans to question the poll.  You may have one or two 3A teams each year who can really challenge some good 4A and maybe 5A schools, but the rest most likely can't hang.  Having said all that, I may or may not look at the poll next year, but one thing is for sure, I won't get my britches in a wad if I do.

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Provost Umphrey, and it will only get better over time with addittional improvements in the future and expanded seating capacity.  Not saying the BISD stadium is not really nice.  Look what having these two stadium has done for playoff games in the Golden Triangle.  Can anyone tell me the last time we had that many 1st round games and any second round games in our area?  Having some "home field advantage" can only help our area playoff teams.

[quote name="bigred360" post="909857" timestamp="1289850803"] Agreed there is more to it that just what games LU wants televised. It is less expensive to do home games but then it effects attendance. I know for a fact Coach Woodard did not want the SFA game televised. I heard the man say so myself. [/quote] Back in the 80's and early 90's I had a connection at Channel 6 who was involved with the televising of LU basketball games.  I know for a fact that LU did not dictate which games would be televised.  It was negotiated between the Lamar and the station.  Think about it, it is much cheaper for a local tv station to televise a game at Provost Umphrey than it is to televise a game out of town.  You do the math!

The overhaul of Provost Umphrey and the addition of "the Butch" has added numerous playoff games to our area.  When can anyone remember having 2nd round playoff games played in our area?

[quote name="JJWooten" post="909123" timestamp="1289779193"] This is a no brainer. Lamar should be able to dominate them, and maybe even score their first rushing TD. [/quote] If they don't score a rushing td then it will be embarrassing.  They need to win this game by 4+ tds and score 2 rushing td's to launch into next season.  On a bright spot, we do have some of the better receivers in the SLC, and maybe we have a blossoming QB who might be really good in the years to come.  After going to see the McNeese game, I am really confused about the status of Andre Bevil and his future.  Maybe someone can clue me in.  I think his problem is now confidence and that he still has problems reading defenses.

[quote name="AggiesWeAreNot" post="909111" timestamp="1289778474"] [quote author=NorthoftheBorder link=topic=76054.msg909068#msg909068 date=1289776946] [quote author=LAZEEK link=topic=76054.msg908115#msg908115 date=1289704784] [quote author=coachacola link=topic=76054.msg908080#msg908080 date=1289704333] And the streak is still intact...no rushing TDs for Lamar! [/quote] Who cares if they win the game!!!!!! [/quote] . Actually I do because the truth is you will not win championships if you can't run the ball.  I do not know of one example in Pro, College or HS who did not run the ball effectively and win a championship.  Nice win and much needed, but they have got to establish a running game.  Maybe they will make it a priority next week against arguably the weakest opponent of the season.  But it is a very concerning statistic that speaks volumes about where this team is.  And so you don't misunderstand me, I'm talking about championships in the future.  The offensive philosophy will have to include a running game and they are going to have to get O-linemen who can move people and open up holes. [/quote] Inidanapolis colts, New England Patriots, Southlake Carrol, Stephenville, UH & Hawaii (have won conference championships with virtually no running), SFA, Warren Moon Houston Oilers teams won passing only (no super bowl but they still were extremely successful).  Dolphins and Redskins with the Smurfs.  Granted most teams that win Super Bowls and National Championships can run too but I'll be happy winning a conference championship first. [/quote] See you agree with me.  Champions, those who win the title can run the ball.  Even SLC ran the ball effectively or Nate Newtons son would not have received a scholarship to UT.  Maybe they pass 2/3 or 3/4 or the time but when a good defense doesn't have to worry about the ground game they can load up and stop the pass.  It doesn't take a whole lot to understand this.

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="908115" timestamp="1289704784"] [quote author=coachacola link=topic=76054.msg908080#msg908080 date=1289704333] And the streak is still intact...no rushing TDs for Lamar! [/quote] Who cares if they win the game!!!!!! [/quote] . Actually I do because the truth is you will not win championships if you can't run the ball.  I do not know of one example in Pro, College or HS who did not run the ball effectively and win a championship.  Nice win and much needed, but they have got to establish a running game.  Maybe they will make it a priority next week against arguably the weakest opponent of the season.  But it is a very concerning statistic that speaks volumes about where this team is.  And so you don't misunderstand me, I'm talking about championships in the future.  The offensive philosophy will have to include a running game and they are going to have to get O-linemen who can move people and open up holes.

[quote name="JJWooten" post="907121" timestamp="1289676720"] Woodard must want to put together the Golden Triangle All-Star team. [/quote] I'm talking all sports.  Football signing is not till February so the list was for boys & girls baskeball, baseball, volleyball etc.

[quote name="AggiesWeAreNot" post="907075" timestamp="1289674783"] [quote author=NorthoftheBorder link=topic=76038.msg906949#msg906949 date=1289669184] Just saw a list of all Houston area kids (boys & girls) from all sports who have signed in the November signing period so far.  Lamar has not signed one kid from Houston for any sport so far.  Saw lots of other SLC schools with Houston area signings.  Would think that LU would work the Houston area hard.  Don't get it why they aren't? [/quote] Screw houston.  Although I seriously doubt that we don’t recruit houston. [/quote] The reality check is that Houston is more than 10 times the size of the Golden Triangle.  Its a numbers game.  They are just going to have more talent in all sports.  Because it is out of town by 1 1/2 hrs it is like going off to school but yet close enough for parents to follow their kids.  It should be the second priority in recruiting behind the GT for every sport.

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="907026" timestamp="1289672883"] Heard last night that LU signed a 6'9 kid from Humble Christian Life!!!!  That is Houston area last time I checked!!!!! [/quote] It is not listed in the Chronicle yet.

[quote name="the_dude_abides" post="906864" timestamp="1289665369"] 20-4A fans, how good is Livingston's Offense? Just curious what the opinion of some people who have actually seen them play might be. [/quote] As a reference point Lumberton beat Livingston 30-28.  Take what you want from that!  My prediction is Dayton big, probably by the score of your average scores in your 19-4A district games as per P4E, 50-7.

Just saw a list of all Houston area kids (boys & girls) from all sports who have signed in the November signing period so far.  Lamar has not signed one kid from Houston for any sport so far.  Saw lots of other SLC schools with Houston area signings.  Would think that LU would work the Houston area hard.  Don't get it why they aren't?

Don't think this type of game helps other than getting some some playing time for everybody.  A few of these games is ok, but Roc has way to many this year.  Trying to pad record.  Wont help down the stretch of the conference run.  But I've been wrong before, like buying into the hype about recruits!  Lets see if the team gets better as the season goes.  The football team didn''t.  Wow, I'm really sounding negative.  I really want the the teams to do great!

[quote name="WOSgrad" post="903880" timestamp="1289445600"] [quote author=westend1 link=topic=75862.msg903818#msg903818 date=1289442287] Hahahhahahahah!   Brook blows out Ike.  Ike beats Dayton.  Both wind up 7-3.    C'mon guys.   Find voters who know just a little about football. [/quote] And Dayton is on a 7 game winning streak while the Brook is coming off of a loss.  The voters (WHICH I CHOSE) know plenty about football. And you wonder why you are getting smited? [/quote] Lots of people know football.  Doesn't mean they aren't biased.  We are all biased.

[shadow=red,left][b]Peppermint Patty Senior Karma: +33/-49 [applaud] [smite] Posts: 786   Re: Has Jeremy Johnson made it to Baylor yet? « Reply #16 on: Today at 08:30:54 AM » Quote  -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Johnson will transfer to Lamar. Take it to the bank. [/b] [/shadow] This was posted on the college football thread.  Maybe Peppermint Patty knows what she's talking about.  Only AAW can confirm!

At this point it doesn't really matter what the WAC does from LU's point of view.  They are not in the WAC.  What matters is the immediate future of the SLC.  And it just got weaker.

[quote name="Green Menace" post="904171" timestamp="1289494368"] [quote author=NorthoftheBorder link=topic=75844.msg904105#msg904105 date=1289489840] Something has to be done about the offense.  No rushing TD's is more a problem with the O-line the the RB's, although the play calling and offensive philosphy also has contributed to the problem.  Still,[u] [b]the teams with the best O & D lines generally win championships[/u][/b]. [/quote] Someone finally gets it!  For all of his knowledge of offensive schemes and plays, Todd Dodge never understood the urgency in getting quality offensive and especially defensive linemen.  Loaded up the scholarships with wide receivers.  *sigh* [/quote] If your O-line is great, your grandma can be an all american RB.  They make RB's always look better.  Great O-lines are a function of your O-line coach and your strength and conditioning coach.  It also nice to have a little "nasty" bred in them.

The only one I'm not sure about is NED/Crosby.  No doubt Ned is improving, just don't know about Crosby at this point of the year.

[quote name="bigred360" post="904099" timestamp="1289488926"] Going to get a paper so I can read the rest of the article but IMO this is the key to a success team this season as they (newcomers) can all shoot the rock. [/quote] Let's hope they can do it in a real game against a good opponent.  Our prior years top recruits couldn't shoot the rock in real game situations.

Something has to be done about the offense.  No rushing TD's is more a problem with the O-line the the RB's, although the play calling and offensive philosphy also has contributed to the problem.  Still, the teams with the best O & D lines generally win championships.

Only 5 home games.  Need to be in a position to have 6 home games a season.

[quote name="kvillecats9876" post="897481" timestamp="1288982169"] [quote author=NorthoftheBorder link=topic=75465.msg897007#msg897007 date=1288924315] This poll is so biased I would be ashamed if I was a voter. [/quote] what would u base your rankings on then?? [/quote] On head to head matchups and level of competition.  For instance Kirbyville did beat 4A competition and anialated its 3A competition, it deserves to be in the top 3, but after that the 3A teams drop off with not much success at all against 4A competition (BC beat Vidor).  Dayton, after losing 3 straight to 5A schools, then runs rough shod over its 4A comp and deserves to be top 4, maybe top 3.  I think the top 4 in order are WB, Dayton , Kville, and Central (Centrals pasting by PNG is troublesome.   I am assuming they rested some key players, if they didn't don't think they will go far in the playoffs).  After that its just who your favorite teams are and thats where it get biased although I think PA Mem & WOS are the next teams in line.