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If the stadium was at 28-30k, and if the team was really competitive with some attractive non conference games, then LU could average 25k+!  Thats my answer.

Give us the cite on where the La Tech fans are furious.

[quote name="incognito" post="1015373" timestamp="1306840251"] [quote author=WOSgrad link=topic=84642.msg1015043#msg1015043 date=1306685551] I figured that some would call Coach's words unambitious.  I prefer to call it tempering enthusiasm with realism. I love that football is back at Lamar, but let's not make this program something that it is not.  It is not a program that has a lot to offer a Top 20 FBS team for that team to come to Beaumont.  I'm not saying at some point that it won't.  But let's step back folks! At this point last year, a team from Lamar University had not played a football game in over 20 years.  You don't go from that to FBS ready in a year.  I don't care about UTSA or others....Lamar is not there yet! I think of it as sort of a coup that in merely the 4th year of the revival of this program, Lamar will have managed to land on the schedule of a BCS conference team!  Of course, I harbor no illusions as to why they will be visiting Stillwater, Waco, College Station or even Honolulu for that matter.  It is for those schools to provide an opportunity for their fans, alumni and boosters to see their school kick the crap out of somebody.  I still remember when ULL (then USL) went on their barnstorming tour which lead them to Jordan-Hare Stadium where Bo Jackson literally ran the Ragin Cajuns back to downtown Lafayette.  They got exposure alright...an entire nation saying "Those poor, dumb bastards." But think of it this way, those that support the A&Ms, the UTs or the LSUs.  Do you think that they flock to the games to see who has come to town? No.  They flock there to see their teams play whoever it is that comes to town.  That is why even when lil' Lamar University comes to town, Kyle Field will be filled to capacity.  Whenever Lamar has that sort of following, not a following drawn by the novelty of the program or a concert following (that is a following drawn by who happens to be in town for the weekend), then it will be ready to host FBS teams. [/quote] Well said grad. [/quote] Grad's first loyalty is WOS, period.  It appears to me that he doesn't want Lamar's football team to be better than the Mustangs.  That's kind of sad to me.

One of the hardest things is knowing when to leave.  How many times have we seen through the years a great boxing champion stay around to long only to get embarrased.  Gilligan has been a good one and a great ambassodor for the University. Can't say as to when he will step aside.  This year I am sure is a disappoinment for him.

[quote name="puddin tane" post="1014175" timestamp="1306377364"] [quote author=NorthoftheBorder link=topic=84481.msg1014082#msg1014082 date=1306346932] [quote author=coachacola link=topic=84481.msg1014078#msg1014078 date=1306346073] The WAC isn't going to crash.  If no western schools join then that leaves room for Lamar, SHSU, and others.  It's just a matter of time before the WAC morphs into a southwest conference.  If Lamar wants to go FBS then they join the WAC, unless there's a major shakeup among the conferences then there's more opportunity for Lamar. A few months ago Tidwell said he thinks there's going to be some major changes coming to the CUSA, Sun Belt and other conferences.  I think there's a good chance that will happen.  Either way, Lamar has a another year or two to prepare for a move to a FBS conference.  It could be the WAC, the Sun Belt, who knows, but it's probably going to happen. [/quote] Coach I like a lot of what you say but I wish I was as optimistic as your are.  I think the WAC is in trouble.  The western schools no doubt want a minimum number of schools in that region to have a west division that makes sense for them economically and from a rivalry standpoint.  They just keep getting stymied on potential schools to join.  I think that is ominous to the future of the conference.  Don't know how this is going to play out, but I hope that something develops with the Sun Belt for LU.  That is my opinion now of what is best for LU. [/quote] this i what i've been saying (and getting blasted for) since the first mention of the WAC [/quote] If the WAC had good leadership, then they would not be heading for trouble and could be a good option for LU to go FBS.  It is now my opinion based on what has played out over the last few months that the  WAC can't help themselves and will eventually fold.  I have changed my opinion of them as a viable option.  My hope is for LU to go FBS.  If you feel you were being blasted, it came from a tone of wanting LU to stay FCS and in the SLC with no desire to go FBS.  That's how I read your posts.  It wasn't personal, just a real disagreement of what we each feel is best for LU athletics.

[quote name="coachacola" post="1014078" timestamp="1306346073"] The WAC isn't going to crash.  If no western schools join then that leaves room for Lamar, SHSU, and others.  It's just a matter of time before the WAC morphs into a southwest conference.  If Lamar wants to go FBS then they join the WAC, unless there's a major shakeup among the conferences then there's more opportunity for Lamar. A few months ago Tidwell said he thinks there's going to be some major changes coming to the CUSA, Sun Belt and other conferences.  I think there's a good chance that will happen.  Either way, Lamar has a another year or two to prepare for a move to a FBS conference.  It could be the WAC, the Sun Belt, who knows, but it's probably going to happen. [/quote] Coach I like a lot of what you say but I wish I was as optimistic as your are.  I think the WAC is in trouble.  The western schools no doubt want a minimum number of schools in that region to have a west division that makes sense for them economically and from a rivalry standpoint.  They just keep getting stymied on potential schools to join.  I think that is ominous to the future of the conference.  Don't know how this is going to play out, but I hope that something develops with the Sun Belt for LU.  That is my opinion now of what is best for LU.

[quote name="mffl" post="1012497" timestamp="1305818569"] No way Prewitt moves to receiver. They moved former QB Kevin Smith to WR. [/quote] When did that happen? I thought he looked really good in the 1st spring game.  Didn't get to make this years so not sure of the status.

No how you feel, but Puddin is awful happy right now!

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1008356" timestamp="1305039855"] [quote author=theyoungballcoach link=topic=84108.msg1008349#msg1008349 date=1305039376] Anybody know how this ranks in the Southland conference. [/quote]I'd like to ask this question in three years ;D [/quote] I don't know for sure but I thought that Roc was the highest paid BB coach in the SLC at $135k, so that would make Knight the highest paid.

Congrads!! But like Perhson from HJ, he will have to get bigger.

[quote name="TexasTerror" post="999352" timestamp="1303217858"] [quote author=AJ25 link=topic=83305.msg999068#msg999068 date=1303144460]Even this article was talking about the WAC.. No one can say it's just hearsay anymore.[/quote] The site referenced is a college realignment site primarily... and they have mentioned Lamar to the WAC for some time. [/quote] I think they also gave the Lamar hire a much higher grade than you did Terror!

[quote name="UNLV" post="998841" timestamp="1303081012"] La Tech forum is bragging about recruiting Kyser away from Lamar.  ;) [/quote] The truth travels slow in Ruston La!

[quote name="Green Menace" post="998678" timestamp="1303050198"] Get this, Louisiana Tech has never had a sellout at their stadium, even when they hosted Mississippi State a few years back. Less than 25K showed up for a home game against an SEC opponent. FWIW, North Texas has ever sold out a home game.  Closest was 29,439+ (cap. 30,500) for a home game against Baylor early in either '03.  UNT won 52-14. [/quote] Doesn't look like Ms State traveled well either.

[quote name="puddin tane" post="997467" timestamp="1302817194"] [quote author=NorthoftheBorder link=topic=83032.msg997312#msg997312 date=1302798254] [quote author=mffl link=topic=83032.msg997140#msg997140 date=1302750849] [quote author=NorthoftheBorder link=topic=83032.msg996845#msg996845 date=1302707231] This sucks.  This team probably couldn't beat West Brook, Memorial, Central or PNG.  Better change the scheduling philosphy fast or the fan base will dwindle.  When it was announced that LU was bringing football back, the excited fan base wasn't imagining games against Texas College I can promise you. [/quote] You need to accept who we are. We are a 2nd year program that went 5-6 last year and only beat 2 FCS teams. We have to remain patient, good teams aren't going to want to come here unless we're a worthy opponent. [/quote] Your preaching to the choir, but, I know pretty darn well the mentality of "Joe Southeast Texan" and in spite of our being patient and our desire for "Joe" to be patient, it aint going to happen.  When you get to year 3 & 4 and the schedule it littered with Texas College and Incarnate Word, it will be just you and I sitting in the stands. [/quote] you guys are a joke..langston dropped em, had to pick up ANYBODY..kinda like LU hosing SD...what comes around goes around... lessee..aTm, baylor hawaii, okie st on future schedules... 2nd year and y'all are bitchin like old women [/quote] Typical puddin post! ;)

[quote name="mffl" post="997140" timestamp="1302750849"] [quote author=NorthoftheBorder link=topic=83032.msg996845#msg996845 date=1302707231] This sucks.  This team probably couldn't beat West Brook, Memorial, Central or PNG.  Better change the scheduling philosphy fast or the fan base will dwindle.  When it was announced that LU was bringing football back, the excited fan base wasn't imagining games against Texas College I can promise you. [/quote] You need to accept who we are. We are a 2nd year program that went 5-6 last year and only beat 2 FCS teams. We have to remain patient, good teams aren't going to want to come here unless we're a worthy opponent. [/quote] Your preaching to the choir, but, I know pretty darn well the mentality of "Joe Southeast Texan" and in spite of our being patient and our desire for "Joe" to be patient, it aint going to happen.  When you get to year 3 & 4 and the schedule it littered with Texas College and Incarnate Word, it will be just you and I sitting in the stands.

[quote name="badndn" post="996905" timestamp="1302714990"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=83097.msg996822#msg996822 date=1302704592] Athletic bigs are at a minimum, especially at the mid major level [/quote] Typically if you get one at the Low/Mid Major level he went the JUCO route because of academics and you were willing to take the risk. The athletic bigs that LU has had in recent history were of that variety, ala Fairley, Beard, etc.. The only guy that PK signed to TT that had any ties to LU was Petteway (his big brother was a staple at LU several years back and the younger version was at many of the games), but he has Big 12 talent from what I hear and would probably not be interested based on that fact alone. [/quote] I don't expect any TT recruits to bolt as Gillespie kept Asst Coach and recruiting coordinator Chris Beard from Knight's staff.  It would be a nice surprise but not likely.

This sucks.  This team probably couldn't beat West Brook, Memorial, Central or PNG.  Better change the scheduling philosphy fast or the fan base will dwindle.  When it was announced that LU was bringing football back, the excited fan base wasn't imagining games against Texas College I can promise you.

Here's hoping that he does "prove it" for LU's benefit.

Interesting to see ULM, ULL & Western Kentucky, all SBC schools in the top 20.  Only Utah St I noticed was from the WAC although I thought that San Jose St was pretty dismal in attendance.

[quote name="tigersvoice" post="994340" timestamp="1302203121"] [quote author=Ruckdad link=topic=82825.msg994305#msg994305 date=1302198480] Giovanne is at Augustana -last I heard - and last I heard he was pretty successful there and also coaching the Golf team. [/quote] Giovanne is at Augustana.  Has compiled a record there of 199 - 89 = .691.  He has had 4 conference championships in his 11 seasons there with three of them in a row '06-'07-'08.  Augustana is a NCAA DIV III college. At Lamar Grey's 6 season record was 80 - 85 = .485. In his 17 year career as a "Head" his record is 279 - 174 = .615 And he does coach golf when it is is season. Sounds (and looks) to me like he is enjoying what he's doing and where he's doing it. [/quote] And he is really a great guy!!! No kidding!  Probably the best overall person we have had on the LU coaching staff.  Tubbs is still my favorite coach at LU! :)

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="994227" timestamp="1302190367"] All the new coaches come in saying things we like to hear. [/quote] I will give you that, with one caveat, I don't remember Grey Giovanni talking big.  He was pretty much small time.  Great guy though.  Liked him a lot.

Got to think big to be big!

[quote name="UNLV" post="994195" timestamp="1302186246"] [quote author=NorthoftheBorder link=topic=82782.msg993969#msg993969 date=1302118893] I'm a little nervous playing TAMU @ Kyle Field in 2013.  They could run up a big score in that one.  But probably not any worse than what happenend in Nac-a-nowhere last year.  I'm with you on this one UNLV, would like to see some name schools in Beaumont but that won't happen until the stadium gets expanded to 30k. [/quote]Won't happen being FCS. [/quote] I could have been clearer.  The stadium won't be expanded to  30k unless we go FBS.

I'm a little nervous playing TAMU @ Kyle Field in 2013.  They could run up a big score in that one.  But probably not any worse than what happenend in Nac-a-nowhere last year.  I'm with you on this one UNLV, would like to see some name schools in Beaumont but that won't happen until the stadium gets expanded to 30k.

[quote name="becktobigs" post="993803" timestamp="1302101622"] [quote author=UNLV link=topic=82781.msg993724#msg993724 date=1302096474] [quote author=DenisGScott link=topic=82781.msg993653#msg993653 date=1302062513] While I highly doubt the Blue Devils are coming to Beaumont, and I'm not sure Knight is the right guy, I want to think that because of who he is that he may have some contacts to at least beef up the schedule at home, I'm not expecting Duke, UConn, Pitt, but better than Louisiana College [/quote]Nobody said Duke is coming. Why do you always have to bring the rain. The hope is can Knight at least try to bring Duke here. Coach K can help a friend out. [/quote]Coach Cal didn't help Roc and they spent a lot of time together.   Maybe Dook will come and play by SLC rules; i.e., with SLC officiating.  It trumps talent every time. [/quote] Now that is funny!!!!! ;D