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[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1365331" timestamp="1358700551"] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=108357.msg1365328#msg1365328 date=1358699088] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=108357.msg1365324#msg1365324 date=1358697975] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=108357.msg1365323#msg1365323 date=1358697779] Now about the actual game itself, Central played very good defense.  The [b]30[/b] point performance was Big Ned's lowest point total of the year.  This kind of  defense can carry the Jags them a long way! [/quote] 40. [/quote] Let me reword it.  The 40 points are amongst the lowest total for Nederland this season... [/quote]Yep. Not gonna win many games scoring 40 points against an elite team. The defensive effort for Ned was impressive as well. Since the Lufkin tourney, the Jags have averaged 64ppg. Holding the Jags to 50 is not easy. 50 points is amongst the lowest output for the Jags this season. Central has scored exactly 50 in 3 games this year, plus a 38 point and 44 point performance in the Lufkin tourney. In order to win games, we must show up in the 1st half. We have come from behind too many times this season. We must find a way to get a lead early. Gotta play hard and aggressive all 4Q's, not just the last 2 when we are behind. [/quote]Very good info and very true.

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1365324" timestamp="1358697975"] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=108357.msg1365323#msg1365323 date=1358697779] Now about the actual game itself, Central played very good defense.  The [b]30[/b] point performance was Big Ned's lowest point total of the year.  This kind of  defense can carry the Jags them a long way! [/quote] 40. [/quote] Let me reword it.  The 40 points are amongst the lowest total for Nederland this season...

Now about the actual game itself, Central played very good defense.  The 30 point performance was Big Ned's lowest point total of the year.  This kind of  defense can carry the Jags them a long way!

[quote name="Mr. Buddy Garrity" post="1365228" timestamp="1358640707"] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=108363.msg1365150#msg1365150 date=1358621818] Stick to football, man.  Lol.  Sterling actually isn't that bad in hoops. [/quote] Sterling aint been relevant in bball since i was in HS lol. Last good Sterling team i saw was in the old TJ Yellow Jacket Classic Tournament  ;D [/quote] Key words, not that bad.  ;)

[quote name="TopFlight" post="1365218" timestamp="1358637814"] First of all SOME OF YOU NOT ALL are ruining the fact Central played a good game by beating a tough Nederland team...now I sat on the opposite side in front of Nederlands bench. It clearly was a sign saying Home and Visitor. .now no one was sitting there throughout the game so why they made central fans move I havent a clue. ..they weren't being rude or heckling they were just watching the game..now if a problem  had occurred then I think u take the appropriate measures otherwise leave em alone and let them watch the game. in peace. .Stop playing the race card ...while we cant ingore that RACISM exist this wasnt the time to put the card out there....being asked to move because of the fear of what might happen is clearly a safety measure to protect the fans....lets keep it basketball and save the nonsense for tell all books..GO PANTHERS ;D 8) [/quote] So, who played the race card?  I don't think I was dealt that deck...

[quote name="baddog" post="1365201" timestamp="1358631219"] Coach English and his teams are doing fantastic. When other teams consider it a notch in their belt to defeat you, you have done your job. Funny, I didn't hear any complaints about seating during the closed door game between Ozen and Central a few years back. [b]Oh yeah, the fans were not invited at all. Grumble...grumble.... Ah, the agendas. [/b] [/quote] ??? ???

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1365180" timestamp="1358626955"] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=108357.msg1365174#msg1365174 date=1358626238] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=108357.msg1365169#msg1365169 date=1358625459] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=108357.msg1365156#msg1365156 date=1358622920] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=108357.msg1365149#msg1365149 date=1358621781] Rosa Parks, seriously? Come on man! U ignored AAW's comment about seating that he has seen in most gyms. We enforce this same rule when PNG comes to town. Why do so many people want to go to the rave card so quickly and repeatedly? When Nederland played Central this year in football, which searing section did you sit in? When you go to a Rockets game with a seat number, do you tell them you can sit where you want to sit? Ironically, every time I have ever observed a seating controversy at a sporting event, the police/security are involved. Rules are rules, just follow them. I know, I know, it's much easier to just play the race card. ::) [/quote] I said it brings Rosa Parks to mind.  Meaning making someone move.  I didn't bring race into it.  Didn't accuse anyone from Nederland of being a racist... [/quote]You implied race, which is no different. [/quote]If that's what you deciphered from my post, then I would say it's your opinion since I'm telling you that I didn't throw the race card in.  Also, implying race and making a racial comment IS different. [/quote] Definition of imply: imply[ im-plahy ] verb (used with object) im·plied, im·ply·ing. 1. to indicate or suggest without being explicitly stated. [/quote]What makes you assume I don't know what that word means?  By the way, even an 8 year old child can effectively use dictionary.com...

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1365177" timestamp="1358626529"] C'mon Robert, using the name "Rosa Parks" implies race. You know it, everybody knows it. Maybe that was a poor analogy of the situation and you did not intend to make it a racial comment. But using a woman's name that hits at the heart of long time racial discrimination, is implying race. [/quote]As I've said once to Abe, it wasn't intended as a racial comment.  Context clues should have indicated that.The sole purpose was the making someone move part.  Selective comprehension once again for some.  ::) ::). Anyway, I'm with Yeoj.  The game is over, we won, and I'm glad that I was able to witness it in my seat... 3 rows from the Nederland bench... 8)

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1365169" timestamp="1358625459"] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=108357.msg1365156#msg1365156 date=1358622920] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=108357.msg1365149#msg1365149 date=1358621781] Rosa Parks, seriously? Come on man! U ignored AAW's comment about seating that he has seen in most gyms. We enforce this same rule when PNG comes to town. Why do so many people want to go to the rave card so quickly and repeatedly? When Nederland played Central this year in football, which searing section did you sit in? When you go to a Rockets game with a seat number, do you tell them you can sit where you want to sit? Ironically, every time I have ever observed a seating controversy at a sporting event, the police/security are involved. Rules are rules, just follow them. I know, I know, it's much easier to just play the race card. ::) [/quote] I said it brings Rosa Parks to mind.  Meaning making someone move.  I didn't bring race into it.  Didn't accuse anyone from Nederland of being a racist... [/quote]You implied race, which is no different. [/quote]If that's what you deciphered from my post, then I would say it's your opinion since I'm telling you that I didn't throw the race card in.  Also, implying race and making a racial comment IS different.

[quote name="Yeoj" post="1365132" timestamp="1358618343"] Nothing is really wrong with the Bulldogs. They are simply just the third best team in 20-4A. It's actually quite obvious. [/quote] Ouch! :o :o

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1365149" timestamp="1358621781"] Rosa Parks, seriously? Come on man! U ignored AAW's comment about seating that he has seen in most gyms. We enforce this same rule when PNG comes to town. Why do so many people want to go to the rave card so quickly and repeatedly? When Nederland played Central this year in football, which searing section did you sit in? When you go to a Rockets game with a seat number, do you tell them you can sit where you want to sit? Ironically, every time I have ever observed a seating controversy at a sporting event, the police/security are involved. Rules are rules, just follow them. I know, I know, it's much easier to just play the race card. ::) [/quote] I said it brings Rosa Parks to mind.  Meaning making someone move.  I didn't bring race into it.  Didn't accuse anyone from Nederland of being a racist...

Stick to football, man.  Lol.  Sterling actually isn't that bad in hoops.

[quote name="Yeoj" post="1365143" timestamp="1358619949"] The entire seating area across the from the scoring table was ninety eight percent Nederland fans. And you want to cut the side behind the scoring table in half. My question is, does NISD expect the entire Central basketball fan base to sit in that little fourth of gym space? And are they really going to use the Nederland police to enforce that ridiculousness? [/quote] True!

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1365133" timestamp="1358618399"] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=108357.msg1365129#msg1365129 date=1358617394] [quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=108357.msg1365114#msg1365114 date=1358611235] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=108357.msg1365107#msg1365107 date=1358610364] [quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=108357.msg1365102#msg1365102 date=1358609627] There was a HUGE sign on the railing between the court level and upper level. If people would read the HUGE banner indicating where home and visitors were to sit a rope fence and armed guards would not be needed. READ THE SIGNS AND FIND YOUR SEAT ACCORDINGLY. What was so hard to understand about the HUGE banner? [/quote] Every gym has that.  It's where they 'prefer you to sit.  They don't call in security to force you to sit somewhere.  There's a difference. [/quote] Explain the difference [/quote] No need.  Water under the bridge now.  If I were asked to move, I would have declined as should those few fans that elected to move.  [/quote]Why not just respect AND abide by the rules that are set in place? If the speed limit is 55, and you refuse to drive that slow, do authorities not have the right to pull you over and write you a ticket? When you go to a public place, do you look at their rules and just ignore them? I will repeat this story again: Last year, Central officials made an announcement (exactly as we did last night) asking fans to sit on their respective sides. There was no issue made bc we respected the rules of BISD and Central and moved. You didn't hear anything about this bc we did not make an issue out of it. [/quote] I went to EVERY Central game last year and that's FALSE information.  There was No such announcement prior to a game.  Heck, I don't recall there being such an announcement in Nederland as well.  The speed limit comparison is lame.  You Have to follow the law.  It's a must.  At a high school game, you're not FORCED to sit somewhere or where NOT to sit.  Heck using that comparison brings Rosa Parks to mind...

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1365116" timestamp="1358611930"] Hey Ned fans, how badly could we have used another 6'4" big body last night to bang with ToeToe (#24) and take some intensity off from Weisbrod? SMH [/quote] I completely agree.  Maybe even a more stronger broader body.

[quote name="5 on 5" post="1365114" timestamp="1358611235"] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=108357.msg1365107#msg1365107 date=1358610364] [quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=108357.msg1365102#msg1365102 date=1358609627] There was a HUGE sign on the railing between the court level and upper level. If people would read the HUGE banner indicating where home and visitors were to sit a rope fence and armed guards would not be needed. READ THE SIGNS AND FIND YOUR SEAT ACCORDINGLY. What was so hard to understand about the HUGE banner? [/quote] Every gym has that.  It's where they 'prefer you to sit.  They don't call in security to force you to sit somewhere.  There's a difference. [/quote] Explain the difference [/quote] No need.  Water under the bridge now.  If I were asked to move, I would have declined as should those few fans that elected to move. 

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1365108" timestamp="1358610543"] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=108357.msg1365107#msg1365107 date=1358610364] [quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=108357.msg1365102#msg1365102 date=1358609627] There was a HUGE sign on the railing between the court level and upper level. If people would read the HUGE banner indicating where home and visitors were to sit a rope fence and armed guards would not be needed. READ THE SIGNS AND FIND YOUR SEAT ACCORDINGLY. What was so hard to understand about the HUGE banner? [/quote] Every gym has that.  It's where they 'prefer you to sit.  [b]They don't call in security to force you to sit somewhere.[/b]  There's a difference. [/quote] Oh yes they do. I have seen law enforcement move fans to their proper sections in many gyms. [/quote] Law enforcement is called in when there is a problem like fighting or altercations.  There was a absolutely NO problems with the seating during the freshmen and JV games.  Then, security was called in.  IMO, there wasn't the need for that.  Fans just wanted to see their teams play.  A Little too excessive.

[quote name="5 on 5" post="1365102" timestamp="1358609627"] There was a HUGE sign on the railing between the court level and upper level. If people would read the HUGE banner indicating where home and visitors were to sit a rope fence and armed guards would not be needed. READ THE SIGNS AND FIND YOUR SEAT ACCORDINGLY. What was so hard to understand about the HUGE banner? [/quote] Every gym has that.  It's where they 'prefer you to sit.  They don't call in security to force you to sit somewhere.  There's a difference.

[quote name="NDOMAKONG" post="1365084" timestamp="1358606692"] Soulja summed it up pretty well, I'm surprised there wasn't some form of retaliation for the bench taunting, that showed a lot of class on Central's part.  I had no idea Central's 24 is a soph, he's got skills. [/quote] He and 2 other sophomores started last year as freshmen (#32  and #5).  Wileridge has gotten light years better since his freshman season, it's almost scary.

[quote name="5 on 5" post="1365093" timestamp="1358608155"] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=108357.msg1365090#msg1365090 date=1358607887] To the reply to the "any gym" comment. Not in Silsbee. There is a visitor side and a home side. You are not allowed to sit "anywhere you want" in the Tiger Den. Most gyms I have been to are set up in this manner, visitor and home side or sections. [/quote] Ned needs to consider a home side and visitor side [/quote] Why is that?  The problem didn't start until that obnoxious Nederland guy started Making the announcement over and over again and went and got a police officer.  Nederland and Central fans were  getting along before that.

[quote name="5 on 5" post="1365089" timestamp="1358607418"] []Here is my take on the seating issue. I have been sitting behind the Ned bench. Before the Ozen varsity game we left to grab something to eat before varsity. When we returned Ozen fans were not only sitting in this reserved section, they were sitting in our friends "stadium seats". We were willing to sit elsewhere but they wouldn't get out of the "stadium seats". Talk about classless. Police had to intervene to force them to return our friends "stadium seats". Are you kidding me. Then throughout the game an obnoxious Ozen fan sitting very close to coach English kept attacking him personally constantly. That section has always been for player families and needs to remain as such. I agree with the enforcement of this policy. There was plenty of seating upstairs for those sitting in the wrong section. [/quote] I don't know about the Ozen fans, but the Central fans were in those seats while the JV game was going  on.  No one got up.  there were Nederland fans there.  There were no problems.  After the JV  games were finished the announcement was made.  At that point is when the  Jag faithful  got enraged.  It was truly uncalled for.  If You didn't want anyone to sit there,  rope that area off prior to the beginning of the freshmen game.

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1365073" timestamp="1358603440"] [quote author=Yeoj link=topic=108357.msg1365020#msg1365020 date=1358570394] [quote author=BIG SHOW link=topic=108357.msg1365015#msg1365015 date=1358569781] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=108357.msg1364874#msg1364874 date=1358555622] Ned Fresh up 57-18 after 3 Qs. They won by 20 or so. Don't remember score. 5 on 5 may know. [/quote] 67-47 was the final in the freshman game. Ned was up by nearly 40 at one point. The second group played in the fourth quarter. [/quote] I wouldn't get too excited! Central has two freshmen on varsity and at least three other freshmen on JV. [/quote] I've seen the Central Freshmen on varisty and JV-  Nederland has a right to be excited [/quote]  8)

This is what I have to say about this game...plain and simple.  Nederland only has 2 players that are aggressive on offense.  out of those two, one of them goes through the 'passive' stretch of the game.  Nederland needs at least a third aggressive scoring option to beat us at the  next district meeting.  Also, Nederland needs to add some size.  Weisebrod was called to hold Wileridge (I assume he's Nederland's  tallest player) which didn't work.  Toe-Toe did what he wanted and when he wanted in the paint.  Also, had Nederland would have made those open looks, it would have helped them.  Central should have stayed in the full court press and the score probably would have gotten out of hand.  They allowed Nederland to slow the game down, and that's what got them  back into it.  This second meeting will be interesting to say the least.

I can explain this situation that I've never seen before, Abe.  I arrived at the game in the 4th quarter of the JV game.  When the JV game ended, there was an announcement prior to the varsity team introductions.'there are NO Central fans allowed to sit on the Nederland side (behind their bench).  Please sit behind centrals bench, Central fans.  Nederland fans sit on Nederland's side'.  He announced this at least 5 times and then got the police involved to try to make Central fans move.  This is a first to me.  In ANY gym, including the dog dome, teams were always allowed to sit wherever they please.  Now, if that section was reserved for a specific group of spectators (parents, elderly, subvarsity players, cheerleaders, ect.),  then it should have been roped off.  ...and from what I heard, the Ozen fans, when they were there WASN'T harassed like that.  Completely unacceptable.  I was a fan that was in that section, and I wasn't worried.  If I were ever asked to move, I would have politely ignored them and continued watching the game.  Also, Abe, the is NO such rule in place at Central where opposing fans are forced to  move. There is a section reserved for students a Central that's roped off even before the freshmen  games begin, but it's NOT behind either teams bench and no fan is ever asked to move.  Not sure where you got that info from, Abe. Now, #1 for Nederland?  I think Yeoj was talking about the action after his first score.  He ran toward the Central bench heckling them and ran by coach Lee, Central's HC, and said something to his face.  That upset the Central coaching staff and bench but nothing was done about it.  Another incident was when he threw a few elbows at Central's Mitchell.  Ref saw that one but swallowed his whistle.  There continued to be extra pushing and jousting between these two and again., nothing was called...

I'll leave you my number via inbox.