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[BMTSoulja1]

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Very surprised at you.  You keep brining up the game against Central.  It is readily apparent that you dont understand that, in the playoffs, HJ only plays afainst schhols with similar enrollments.  Think about that for a minute,  That means they wont play a team like Central  While we are on this schedule issue, why isnt Central playing schools like DeSoto to be ready for the playoffs instead of lowly HJ?
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  Yates?  According to you, HJ may not make the playoffs with weak schedule and Prudhomme gone and if they do, they will certainly lose before  getting to Yates.  Answer my question about Centrals schedule please.  Why arent they playing in a 5-a tourney in Houston or Dallas to get ready for playoffs?

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Central has played in the two best tournaments in the area. Gamble and ymbl. Of course HJ go make the playoffs. Even though they might end up dplitting district with WOS. HJ was in a 2a tournament. Come on now
[/quote]Central has not went out of the BMT area to play anybody its all been with in 5 miles off there school. They could have play in the Pasadena tour. where the big boys play.
[/quote]  I suppose that the Lufkin Tourney was within 5 miles of Beaumont, right?  The gamble classic (PA) is also within 5 miles.  port Arthur is at least 15 miles from Central HS.  . Also, Straik Jesuit in Baytown would be considered a little more than 5 miles.  I think you need to worry about your little 'BS' and them getting blown out by 30 than speaking on something that people like yourself have NO idea about.. 

[CATMAN]

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1360597" timestamp="1357145825"]
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Very surprised at you.  You keep brining up the game against Central.  It is readily apparent that you dont understand that, in the playoffs, HJ only plays afainst schhols with similar enrollments.  Think about that for a minute,  That means they wont play a team like Central  While we are on this schedule issue, why isnt Central playing schools like DeSoto to be ready for the playoffs instead of lowly HJ?
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  Yates?  According to you, HJ may not make the playoffs with weak schedule and Prudhomme gone and if they do, they will certainly lose before  getting to Yates.  Answer my question about Centrals schedule please.  Why arent they playing in a 5-a tourney in Houston or Dallas to get ready for playoffs?

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Central has played in the two best tournaments in the area. Gamble and ymbl. Of course HJ go make the playoffs. Even though they might end up dplitting district with WOS. HJ was in a 2a tournament. Come on now
[/quote]Central has not went out of the BMT area to play anybody its all been with in 5 miles off there school. They could have play in the Pasadena tour. where the big boys play.
[/quote]  I suppose that the Lufkin Tourney was within 5 miles of Beaumont, right?  The gamble classic (PA) is also within 5 miles.  port Arthur is at least 15 miles from Central HS.  . Also, Straik Jesuit in Baytown would be considered a little more than 5 miles.  I think you need to worry about your little 'BS' and them getting blown out by 30 than speaking on something that people like yourself have NO idea about..
[/quote] Boy did u take the bait I caught me a little bass.

[BMTSoulja1]

[quote name="CATMAN" post="1360602" timestamp="1357147841"]
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[quote author=Stevenash link=topic=107769.msg1360545#msg1360545 date=1357104884]
Very surprised at you.  You keep brining up the game against Central.  It is readily apparent that you dont understand that, in the playoffs, HJ only plays afainst schhols with similar enrollments.  Think about that for a minute,  That means they wont play a team like Central  While we are on this schedule issue, why isnt Central playing schools like DeSoto to be ready for the playoffs instead of lowly HJ?
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  Yates?  According to you, HJ may not make the playoffs with weak schedule and Prudhomme gone and if they do, they will certainly lose before  getting to Yates.  Answer my question about Centrals schedule please.  Why arent they playing in a 5-a tourney in Houston or Dallas to get ready for playoffs?

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Central has played in the two best tournaments in the area. Gamble and ymbl. Of course HJ go make the playoffs. Even though they might end up dplitting district with WOS. HJ was in a 2a tournament. Come on now
[/quote]Central has not went out of the BMT area to play anybody its all been with in 5 miles off there school. They could have play in the Pasadena tour. where the big boys play.
[/quote]  I suppose that the Lufkin Tourney was within 5 miles of Beaumont, right?  The gamble classic (PA) is also within 5 miles.  port Arthur is at least 15 miles from Central HS.  . Also, Straik Jesuit in Baytown would be considered a little more than 5 miles.  I think you need to worry about your little 'BS' and them getting blown out by 30 than speaking on something that people like yourself have NO idea about..
[/quote] Boy did u take the bait I caught me a little bass.
[/quote]  Some of the most ridiculous posts that I've ever seen were created by you.  So, I'm pretty sure you wasn't throwing bait. ;)

[freeze 1914]

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1360587" timestamp="1357142917"]
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Very surprised at you.  You keep brining up the game against Central.  It is readily apparent that you dont understand that, in the playoffs, HJ only plays afainst schhols with similar enrollments.  Think about that for a minute,  That means they wont play a team like Central  While we are on this schedule issue, why isnt Central playing schools like DeSoto to be ready for the playoffs instead of lowly HJ?
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  Yates?  According to you, HJ may not make the playoffs with weak schedule and Prudhomme gone and if they do, they will certainly lose before  getting to Yates.  Answer my question about Centrals schedule please.  Why arent they playing in a 5-a tourney in Houston or Dallas to get ready for playoffs?

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Central has played in the two best tournaments in the area. Gamble and ymbl. Of course HJ go make the playoffs. Even though they might end up dplitting district with WOS. HJ was in a 2a tournament. Come on now
[/quote]Central has not went out of the BMT area to play anybody its all been with in 5 miles off there school. They could have play in the Pasadena tour. where the big boys play.
[/quote]    apparently thats different.  HJ playing East Chambers is not acceptable but Central playing Lumberton before district is good playoff preparation.  Every school has difficult and easy games but to hear some on this board, they would have you believe that this only happens at HJ and that HJ somehow selects their opponents and brackets in the tournaments they enter.  All that matters is playoff performance and Freeze has yet to tell me why 23-5 in playoffs is not better than anyone else around here has done in recent years
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Because they have had great teams. Now what do they do when the team is not as strong as recent years, play the same competition? You won't get the same results

[freeze 1914]

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[quote author=Stevenash link=topic=107769.msg1360545#msg1360545 date=1357104884]
Very surprised at you.  You keep brining up the game against Central.  It is readily apparent that you dont understand that, in the playoffs, HJ only plays afainst schhols with similar enrollments.  Think about that for a minute,  That means they wont play a team like Central  While we are on this schedule issue, why isnt Central playing schools like DeSoto to be ready for the playoffs instead of lowly HJ?
[/quote]
  Yates?  According to you, HJ may not make the playoffs with weak schedule and Prudhomme gone and if they do, they will certainly lose before  getting to Yates.  Answer my question about Centrals schedule please.  Why arent they playing in a 5-a tourney in Houston or Dallas to get ready for playoffs?

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Central has played in the two best tournaments in the area. Gamble and ymbl. Of course HJ go make the playoffs. Even though they might end up dplitting district with WOS. HJ was in a 2a tournament. Come on now
[/quote]Central has not went out of the BMT area to play anybody its all been with in 5 miles off there school. They could have play in the Pasadena tour. where the big boys play.
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But the tournaments they been in has had very high rated teams. If you go play in local tournaments, why not play in the best ones to give your team a challenge.

[stevenash]

Freeze- please contact coach K at Duke and tell him how his games against Georgia State, Florida Gulf Coast, Delaware, and Elon are not preparing his team for the playoffs

[KHSAlum400]

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1360612" timestamp="1357151390"]
Freeze- please contact coach K at Duke and tell him how his games against Georgia State, Florida Gulf Coast, Delaware, and Elon are not preparing his team for the playoffs
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Another bad comparison....

[aTmfan06]

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1360612" timestamp="1357151390"]
Freeze- please contact coach K at Duke and tell him how his games against Georgia State, Florida Gulf Coast, Delaware, and Elon are not preparing his team for the playoffs
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This is high school not college.. remember a couple years ago Vidor played alot of weak teams ..started with a great record than..well won maybe 1 district game..no thats not hj but still scheduling does play a factor in preparing at team

[stevenash]

hj been playing same schedule for years- their playoff record speaks for itself- once again- the staff at HJ far better qualified to make scheduling decisions than posters on a message board

[Guest BmtTopFlight2017]

I think this whole tread got blown outta proportion...there is no need for anyone to get in their feelings...AGAIN BOTH OF YOU GUYS ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT

[freeze 1914]

[quote name="TopFlight" post="1360629" timestamp="1357156487"]
I think this whole tread got blown outta proportion...there is no need for anyone to get in their feelings...AGAIN BOTH OF YOU GUYS ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT
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I know Flight. I'm having fun with this. But my point is this. He just said HJ had played the same schedule for years. Well as we have saw,HJ team as not as strong as they normally are. So if my team us weaker, why not play better competition to get them prepared for stronger teams down the road. That's what I'm asking. And Nash let me know when coach k shows up at HJ with the 23-5 playoff record

[stevenash]

i too am having fun.  Particularly wth the guy who said to call him when HJ won a state championship, which they have already done with their weak schedule.  Just cant understand why you wont acknowledge the 23-5 playoff record which is the best in the area.  You can't/wontacknowlege it because it documents the fact that the HJ staff knows so very much more about how to hande their team than you do.  It is a fact- deal with it-  Most NBA players lift weights but LeBron does Yoga instead.  Are you gonna tell me he would be better if he lifted weights?

[KHSAlum400]

How many years does this 23-5 playoff record cover?  ;)

[stevenash]

from the 2006-2007 season through the end of last year- not that hard to figure since each loss occurred either in HUNTSVILLE or AUSTIN

[freeze 1914]

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1360642" timestamp="1357159582"]
i too am having fun.  Particularly wth the guy who said to call him when HJ won a state championship, which they have already done with their weak schedule.  Just cant understand why you wont acknowledge the 23-5 playoff record which is the best in the area.  You can't/wontacknowlege it because it documents the fact that the HJ staff knows so very much more about how to hande their team than you do.  It is a fact- deal with it-  Most NBA players lift weights but LeBron does Yoga instead.  Are you gonna tell me he would be better if he lifted weights?
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I know about the record but in talking about this years team. This years team can't compete with none of the HJ teams of the past. With that being said why not get them ready by playing tougher competition.

[freeze 1914]

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from the 2006-2007 season through the end of last year- not that hard to figure since each loss occurred either in HUNTSVILLE or AUSTIN
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I'm asking,just asking do yall think this HJ team is good enough to go to Austin?

[stevenash]

no way to know that until playoff time.  what a team is doing now doesnt matter nearly as much as it does two months from now.  Obviously, Yates has to be the favorite to advance from this region.  I can tell you, however, that if HJ had played in the Gamble tourney, they would still be the exact same team they are now

[AggiesAreWe]

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1360682" timestamp="1357176337"]
no way to know that until playoff time.  what a team is doing now doesnt matter nearly as much as it does two months from now.  Obviously, Yates has to be the favorite to advance from this region.  I can tell you, however, that if HJ had played in the Gamble tourney, [b]they would still be the exact same team they are now[/b]
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I agree, but with maybe a few more losses. ;) ;D

[freeze 1914]

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1360682" timestamp="1357176337"]
no way to know that until playoff time.  what a team is doing now doesnt matter nearly as much as it does two months from now.  Obviously, Yates has to be the favorite to advance from this region.  I can tell you, however, that if HJ had played in the Gamble tourney, they would still be the exact same team they are now
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I dont know about that, but I'm not talking from who they played stand point. I'm asking do they have the personnel to make it to Austin?

[CATMAN]

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[quote author=Stevenash link=topic=107769.msg1360545#msg1360545 date=1357104884]
Very surprised at you.  You keep brining up the game against Central.  It is readily apparent that you dont understand that, in the playoffs, HJ only plays afainst schhols with similar enrollments.  Think about that for a minute,  That means they wont play a team like Central  While we are on this schedule issue, why isnt Central playing schools like DeSoto to be ready for the playoffs instead of lowly HJ?
[/quote]
  Yates?  According to you, HJ may not make the playoffs with weak schedule and Prudhomme gone and if they do, they will certainly lose before  getting to Yates.  Answer my question about Centrals schedule please.  Why arent they playing in a 5-a tourney in Houston or Dallas to get ready for playoffs?

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Central has played in the two best tournaments in the area. Gamble and ymbl. Of course HJ go make the playoffs. Even though they might end up dplitting district with WOS. HJ was in a 2a tournament. Come on now
[/quote]Central has not went out of the BMT area to play anybody its all been with in 5 miles off there school. They could have play in the Pasadena tour. where the big boys play.
[/quote]  I suppose that the Lufkin Tourney was within 5 miles of Beaumont, right?  The gamble classic (PA) is also within 5 miles.  port Arthur is at least 15 miles from Central HS.  . Also, Straik Jesuit in Baytown would be considered a little more than 5 miles.  I think you need to worry about your little 'BS' and them getting blown out by 30 than speaking on something that people like yourself have NO idea about..
[/quote] Boy did u take the bait I caught me a little bass.
[/quote]  Some of the most ridiculous posts that I've ever seen were created by you.  So, I'm pretty sure you wasn't throwing bait. ;)
[/quote]yes I did and u took hook line and sinker  :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

[beechnut]

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[quote author=Stevenash link=topic=107769.msg1360545#msg1360545 date=1357104884]
Very surprised at you.  You keep brining up the game against Central.  It is readily apparent that you dont understand that, in the playoffs, HJ only plays afainst schhols with similar enrollments.  Think about that for a minute,  That means they wont play a team like Central  While we are on this schedule issue, why isnt Central playing schools like DeSoto to be ready for the playoffs instead of lowly HJ?
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  Yates?  According to you, HJ may not make the playoffs with weak schedule and Prudhomme gone and if they do, they will certainly lose before  getting to Yates.  Answer my question about Centrals schedule please.  Why arent they playing in a 5-a tourney in Houston or Dallas to get ready for playoffs?

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Central has played in the two best tournaments in the area. Gamble and ymbl. Of course HJ go make the playoffs. Even though they might end up dplitting district with WOS. HJ was in a 2a tournament. Come on now
[/quote]Central has not went out of the BMT area to play anybody its all been with in 5 miles off there school. They could have play in the Pasadena tour. where the big boys play.
[/quote]  I suppose that the Lufkin Tourney was within 5 miles of Beaumont, right?  The gamble classic (PA) is also within 5 miles.  port Arthur is at least 15 miles from Central HS.  . Also, Straik Jesuit in Baytown would be considered a little more than 5 miles.  I think you need to worry about your little 'BS' and them getting blown out by 30 than speaking on something that people like yourself have NO idea about..
[/quote] Boy did u take the bait I caught me a little bass.
[/quote]  Some of the most ridiculous posts that I've ever seen were created by you.  So, I'm pretty sure you wasn't throwing bait. ;)
[/quote]yes I did and u took hook line and sinker  :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
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Lol funny

[stevenash]

[quote name="freeze 1914" post="1360723" timestamp="1357180766"]
[quote author=Stevenash link=topic=107769.msg1360682#msg1360682 date=1357176337]
no way to know that until playoff time.  what a team is doing now doesnt matter nearly as much as it does two months from now.  Obviously, Yates has to be the favorite to advance from this region.  I can tell you, however, that if HJ had played in the Gamble tourney, they would still be the exact same team they are now
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I dont know about that, but I'm not talking from who they played stand point. I'm asking do they have the personnel to make it to Austin?
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Anybody that answers that now is strictly guessing.  My guess is that anybody who wins their first couple of playoff games has personnel that would make it [i]possible[/i] for them to get to Austin.  The preseason college football rankings showed Arkansas as a possible candidate for the National title ( and hence the personnel)and they did not even get to a bowl game.