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I would like to see Kelly win this one [b]so the big heads in Liberty could open up their excuse books.[/b]There is always alot of ifs in high school football so [b]IF[/b] Liberty doesnt turn the football over to many times and [b]IF[/b] Liberty's defence has another good game and[b] IF Deel doesnt call to many trick plays then Ill pick Liberty  38 -16 over the Bulldogs.[/b]
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you've been betting against liberty all season.. talkin mad ish and coming out to look pitiful.. now you wanna jump on their side.. according to you hardin and huntington was gonna smash them, so do you think those teams are better than kelly. your welcomed to continue to root for whoever it is you follow.. lol. but in all seriousness deel has called 1 trick play the whole season.. lets say 2, just in case i sneezed or something and missed one. so off top you have no cred. and who's iffing? where is the basis for your argument coming from? sad to hate on a bunch of kids who've done nothing but make a 360 turn from a terrible year last season.. smh
[/quote] What have you been smokin'.You need to get your story straight, I have predicted Liberty to win every game that theyve played so far this season,Your one of the Big Heads Im talking about that gives Liberty a bad name.I dont hate any kids and all the ones that go there that know me know I dont hate anyone.I may have no credibility with you but who are you? Probably a nobody that likes to raise a big stink so someone might recognize you. Yes they are much better than last year to which Ive stated several times before. The criticism I give is constructive.
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could be wrong but i'm pretty sure i've seen you hating ON liberty.. btw.. there's a big difference between HATE and HATING [u]ON[/u] btw, i haven't been smoking anything AND DEFENSE is spelled with a S not a C. so who am i? someone who's a lil bit more intelligent than you obviously..
[/quote] Yes you are wrong,you have never seen me hating on Liberty and just because I made a typo doesnt make you more intelligent than me.You couldnt even spell credibility so you had to abbreviate it.Its obvious to me who the more intelligent one is.
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I would like to see Kelly win this one [b]so the big heads in Liberty could open up their excuse books.[/b]There is always alot of ifs in high school football so [b]IF[/b] Liberty doesnt turn the football over to many times and [b]IF[/b] Liberty's defence has another good game and[b] IF Deel doesnt call to many trick plays then Ill pick Liberty  38 -16 over the Bulldogs.[/b]
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you've been betting against liberty all season.. talkin mad ish and coming out to look pitiful.. now you wanna jump on their side.. according to you hardin and huntington was gonna smash them, so do you think those teams are better than kelly. your welcomed to continue to root for whoever it is you follow.. lol. but in all seriousness deel has called 1 trick play the whole season.. lets say 2, just in case i sneezed or something and missed one. so off top you have no cred. and who's iffing? where is the basis for your argument coming from? sad to hate on a bunch of kids who've done nothing but make a 360 turn from a terrible year last season.. smh
[/quote] What have you been smokin'.You need to get your story straight, I have predicted Liberty to win every game that theyve played so far this season,Your one of the Big Heads Im talking about that gives Liberty a bad name.I dont hate any kids and all the ones that go there that know me know I dont hate anyone.I may have no credibility with you but who are you? Probably a nobody that likes to raise a big stink so someone might recognize you. Yes they are much better than last year to which Ive stated several times before. The criticism I give is constructive.
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could be wrong but i'm pretty sure i've seen you hating ON liberty.. btw.. there's a big difference between HATE and HATING [u]ON[/u] btw, i haven't been smoking anything AND DEFENSE is spelled with a S not a C. so who am i? someone who's a lil bit more intelligent than you obviously..
[/quote] Yes you are wrong,you have never seen me hating on Liberty and just because I made a typo doesnt make you more intelligent than me.You couldnt even spell credibility so you had to abbreviate it.Its obvious to me who the more intelligent one is.
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haha i pointed out everything i needed to point out earlier guy.. your pitiful.
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I would like to see Kelly win this one [b]so the big heads in Liberty could open up their excuse books.[/b]There is always alot of ifs in high school football so [b]IF[/b] Liberty doesnt turn the football over to many times and [b]IF[/b] Liberty's defence has another good game and[b] IF Deel doesnt call to many trick plays then Ill pick Liberty  38 -16 over the Bulldogs.[/b]
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you've been betting against liberty all season.. talkin mad ish and coming out to look pitiful.. now you wanna jump on their side.. according to you hardin and huntington was gonna smash them, so do you think those teams are better than kelly. your welcomed to continue to root for whoever it is you follow.. lol. but in all seriousness deel has called 1 trick play the whole season.. lets say 2, just in case i sneezed or something and missed one. so off top you have no cred. and who's iffing? where is the basis for your argument coming from? sad to hate on a bunch of kids who've done nothing but make a 360 turn from a terrible year last season.. smh
[/quote] What have you been smokin'.You need to get your story straight, I have predicted Liberty to win every game that theyve played so far this season,Your one of the Big Heads Im talking about that gives Liberty a bad name.I dont hate any kids and all the ones that go there that know me know I dont hate anyone.I may have no credibility with you but who are you? Probably a nobody that likes to raise a big stink so someone might recognize you. Yes they are much better than last year to which Ive stated several times before. The criticism I give is constructive.
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could be wrong but i'm pretty sure i've seen you hating ON liberty.. btw.. there's a big difference between HATE and HATING [u]ON[/u] btw, i haven't been smoking anything AND DEFENSE is spelled with a S not a C. so who am i? someone who's a lil bit more intelligent than you obviously..
[/quote] Yes you are wrong,you have never seen me hating on Liberty and just because I made a typo doesnt make you more intelligent than me.You couldnt even spell credibility so you had to abbreviate it.Its obvious to me who the more intelligent one is.
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haha i pointed out everything i needed to point out earlier guy.. your pitiful.
[/quote] You didnt point out nothing,I think you need a drug test.
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if you can't see big censored bold black letters then i don't no if you can be helped
[/quote] So what does that prove,nothing,except you yourself cant take any criticism.It doesnt prove that Im hating on Liberty but only on the Big Heads that I was referring too.I stick by my IFS but that goes for any football games.So tell me,WACHA GOT ?
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kellys not ready for liberty their a much more developed team
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Much more developed? Kelly returns 18 starters from last year tops in the area. Kelly has played the tougher schedule by far as well. Liberty returns only 5 starters from a defense that gave up 300 passing yards in the first half last year and led to Dakota Eddins winning the Built Ford Tough player of the week. Typical, that someone who has no idea what he is talking about to get on here with no reasoning what so ever. That being said Kelly still has to improve on the offensive side of the ball and cut down on turnovers. Kelly played extremely well on Defense against Bridge City and look for that to continue. Liberty's QB really played well last year even though their was a great number of drops from his receivers. This should be a great game.
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If you consider giving up 21 points well then your crazy being that Liberty has given up 7 all year, yes they have had a weak schedule but Porter is a 4A team with a new QB who is commited to a D1 school so they can't be too bad. And who cares about what the secondary did last year? Huntington, and Hardin threw all over them last year and scored a combined 110 points, but this year a combined 0, the defense has improved greatly, the seniors who left the secondary won't be missed.
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Liberty hasn't faced anyone on par with Matt Menard, Mark Roberts, and Dishon. Kelly only gave up 20 points to liberty and one of those touchdowns was a pick 6. Another touchdown came after Kelly fumbled the ball on its own 30, so yes the defense played extremely well against a QUALITY opponent. Please don't forget that Kelly scrimmaged Hardin and beat them like a drum as well.

Also think it's funny that when mr. undeveloped was provided with facts he backed off his opinion pretty quick. Where were these two monster running backs last year?
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ok here is my opinion and why...

dennis antoine.. 35 att. for 520yds an 4td's..
jordan jones.. 12 att. for 141 and 4td's..
fregia averages 6+yds a carry and fitz averages 7+ oh, and btw the passing game is the strength..

no one is stopping 6'4" wr mosley in the redzone or on deep balls and jones will torch ya'll again just as he did last year.. and williams is greatly improved from last season.. the d will def. not give up more than 21 to kelly, if that.. they've only given up 7 this year and that td only came because of a late hit penalty at the very end against several 2nd stringers and a few starters.. i know that liberty hasn't played any of the lake travis' of the world and i know that liberty isn't great by far, however holding every team scoreless says a lot..liberty will outscore kelly, period. and the d probably won't pitch another shutout, but i find it hard to believe they'll give up more than 21... ya'll beat em by a score last year and they were terrible..
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No one is stopping Mosley? Nick Schrapps is a 6'3 200 lb safety who is a North Texas commit. Who do you think is going to win a jump ball. Also, Brandtley Wilson didnt play last year due to an injury. Can u honestly tell me an all state linebacker wouldn't have made a difference in libertys run game? Once again, where was these kids last year, if they are so good, where are their Div. 1 offers. Please don't be ignorant. Kelly beat Hardin so bad they quit half way thru the scrimmage. I can't wait till Kelly beats liberty
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aaron mosley is a 6'4" b-ball beast.. btw he's a sophomore an I KNOW he'd win the jump ball hands down!! last year he was an injured freshman.. point? what has schrapps done this season? isn't he playing safety now cuz he got no d-1 offers as a wr? and last time i checked NORTH TEXAS was barely d-1!! is that the best you got? wow.. sun belt conference? and who cares bout this world beater of a lb you refer to.. lets see him stop liberty from hangin 40+.. seriously.. btw melton has offers from colorado, NORTH TEXAS, tulane, utep, utsa.. but he just commited to texas state.. the others are JUST NOW juniors.. guarantee some offers by seasons end.

last year head to head comparison when they played each other

schrapps
7 rec. 75 yds 0 td's..

Jones
10 rushes 89 yd's  2 td's
5 rec. 84 yds 1 td..

i'm sure they're shaking in their shorts.. haha
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Isn't it funny how Kelly people are complentary of alot of the players for Liberty and than you have people like this that come on here and run off at the mouth. I've complemented both the QB and the WR because they are clearly talented. First off, basketball beast? Nick Schrapps was an All State Basketball Player who hung with the big dogs in Houston playing for the Houston Hoops Organization the premier team in Houston.

Schrapps has been starting on the defensive side of the ball since he was a freshman, so he has always played defense. He had a scholarship offer from Air Force is the Mountain West more up to the high division 1 standards that Liberty has? He was invited to Syracuse's Junior Day, does the Big East meet your seal of approval?

So your telling me that Liberty has 4 to 5 Division 1 players, but they are just now getting playing time? Seems to me Division 1 talents seems to find its way on to the field as Wilson and Schrapps did at Kelly. I didnt realize that Liberty was a Division 1 factory either.
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kellys not ready for liberty their a much more developed team
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Much more developed? Kelly returns 18 starters from last year tops in the area. Kelly has played the tougher schedule by far as well. Liberty returns only 5 starters from a defense that gave up 300 passing yards in the first half last year and led to Dakota Eddins winning the Built Ford Tough player of the week. Typical, that someone who has no idea what he is talking about to get on here with no reasoning what so ever. That being said Kelly still has to improve on the offensive side of the ball and cut down on turnovers. Kelly played extremely well on Defense against Bridge City and look for that to continue. Liberty's QB really played well last year even though their was a great number of drops from his receivers. This should be a great game.
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If you consider giving up 21 points well then your crazy being that Liberty has given up 7 all year, yes they have had a weak schedule but Porter is a 4A team with a new QB who is commited to a D1 school so they can't be too bad. And who cares about what the secondary did last year? Huntington, and Hardin threw all over them last year and scored a combined 110 points, but this year a combined 0, the defense has improved greatly, the seniors who left the secondary won't be missed.
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Liberty hasn't faced anyone on par with Matt Menard, Mark Roberts, and Dishon. Kelly only gave up 20 points to liberty and one of those touchdowns was a pick 6. Another touchdown came after Kelly fumbled the ball on its own 30, so yes the defense played extremely well against a QUALITY opponent. Please don't forget that Kelly scrimmaged Hardin and beat them like a drum as well.

Also think it's funny that when mr. undeveloped was provided with facts he backed off his opinion pretty quick. Where were these two monster running backs last year?
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ok here is my opinion and why...

dennis antoine.. 35 att. for 520yds an 4td's..
jordan jones.. 12 att. for 141 and 4td's..
fregia averages 6+yds a carry and fitz averages 7+ oh, and btw the passing game is the strength..

no one is stopping 6'4" wr mosley in the redzone or on deep balls and jones will torch ya'll again just as he did last year.. and williams is greatly improved from last season.. the d will def. not give up more than 21 to kelly, if that.. they've only given up 7 this year and that td only came because of a late hit penalty at the very end against several 2nd stringers and a few starters.. i know that liberty hasn't played any of the lake travis' of the world and i know that liberty isn't great by far, however holding every team scoreless says a lot..liberty will outscore kelly, period. and the d probably won't pitch another shutout, but i find it hard to believe they'll give up more than 21... ya'll beat em by a score last year and they were terrible..
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No one is stopping Mosley? Nick Schrapps is a 6'3 200 lb safety who is a North Texas commit. Who do you think is going to win a jump ball. Also, Brandtley Wilson didnt play last year due to an injury. Can u honestly tell me an all state linebacker wouldn't have made a difference in libertys run game? Once again, where was these kids last year, if they are so good, where are their Div. 1 offers. Please don't be ignorant. Kelly beat Hardin so bad they quit half way thru the scrimmage. I can't wait till Kelly beats liberty
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aaron mosley is a 6'4" b-ball beast.. btw he's a sophomore an I KNOW he'd win the jump ball hands down!! last year he was an injured freshman.. point? what has schrapps done this season? isn't he playing safety now cuz he got no d-1 offers as a wr? and last time i checked NORTH TEXAS was barely d-1!! is that the best you got? wow.. sun belt conference? and who cares bout this world beater of a lb you refer to.. lets see him stop liberty from hangin 40+.. seriously.. btw melton has offers from colorado, NORTH TEXAS, tulane, utep, utsa.. but he just commited to texas state.. the others are JUST NOW juniors.. guarantee some offers by seasons end.

last year head to head comparison when they played each other

schrapps
7 rec. 75 yds 0 td's..

Jones
10 rushes 89 yd's  2 td's
5 rec. 84 yds 1 td..

i'm sure they're shaking in their shorts.. haha
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Isn't it funny how Kelly people are complentary of alot of the players for Liberty and than you have people like this that come on here and run off at the mouth. I've complemented both the QB and the WR because they are clearly talented. First off, basketball beast? Nick Schrapps was an All State Basketball Player who hung with the big dogs in Houston playing for the Houston Hoops Organization the premier team in Houston.

Schrapps has been starting on the defensive side of the ball since he was a freshman, so he has always played defense. He had a scholarship offer from Air Force is the Mountain West more up to the high division 1 standards that Liberty has? He was invited to Syracuse's Junior Day, does the Big East meet your seal of approval?

So your telling me that Liberty has 4 to 5 Division 1 players, but they are just now getting playing time? Seems to me Division 1 talents seems to find its way on to the field as Wilson and Schrapps did at Kelly. I didnt realize that Liberty was a Division 1 factory either.
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Kelly was winless in district and now you're a division 1 factory lol, Tebo the DT has been getting PT but he was banged up last year so no offers yet but when you see him play you will see it is clear, Melton has offers, Fitz has been invited to several colleges for unofficial visits, and Antoine is only a Sophomore but transfered from Cleveland but he's 6ft 210 and runs a 4.6 and he is also one of the top rushers in SETX, that's 4 didn't say the whole team was going D1.
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Schrapps is a committed D1 receiver, Wilson has been recruited by several D1 schools and the majority of the Ivy league. I never said Kelly was a D1 factory I just stated facts about two seniors who are being recruited. You are stating your opinion about certain players being D1 caliber.

Liberty has one player with division 1 offers. The rest is just your opinion
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Somebody has to show me they can stop Liberty this year, so I'll take them by 2 scores over Kelly.
I'm sure both schools have great talent and college recruits. Let's wish the kids luck. But a few talented players doesn't mean much if they can't all get it together. At WH, we went 0-fer one year and still had 2 guys go D1(fcs) and 1 guy go juco. Everyone spanked us, even though we had three guys capable of playing at the next level.  So, IMO, the whole "we got Chuck Norris" on our team, really isn't much of an argument about what team will win. Lol
Good luck to both teams!  Bet it's a great game! 
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Schrapps is a committed D1 receiver, Wilson has been recruited by several D1 schools and the majority of the Ivy league. I never said Kelly was a D1 factory I just stated facts about two seniors who are being recruited. You are stating your opinion about certain players being D1 caliber.

Liberty has one player with division 1 offers. The rest is just your opinion
[/quote] Just Mark My Words, The 2011-2012 Liberty Panther Roster Will Have More D1 Recruits Than Kelly's 2011-2012 Roster, Maybe Twice As Many. But of course that statement will be blown off until it happens... So when these juniors and sophomores commit in the next few years, you know when some can officially be recruited, remember that it was just our opinion, and just pure speculation.
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Schrapps is a committed D1 receiver, Wilson has been recruited by several D1 schools and the majority of the Ivy league. I never said Kelly was a D1 factory I just stated facts about two seniors who are being recruited. You are stating your opinion about certain players being D1 caliber.

Liberty has one player with division 1 offers. The rest is just your opinion
[/quote] Just Mark My Words, The 2011-2012 Liberty Panther Roster Will Have More D1 Recruits Than Kelly's 2011-2012 Roster, Maybe Twice As Many. But of course that statement will be blown off until it happens... So when these juniors and sophomores commit in the next few years, you know when some can officially be recruited, remember that it was just our opinion, and just pure speculation.
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Do you realize how stupid that statement is?? They won't be the 2011-2012 Liberty Panthers when they become Juniors and Seniors, they will be the 2012 and 2013 Liberty Panthers, nice try though
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[quote author=YoungCoug21 link=topic=88077.msg1056562#msg1056562 date=1315978868]
[quote author=Kelly Basketball link=topic=88077.msg1056521#msg1056521 date=1315967708]
Schrapps is a committed D1 receiver, Wilson has been recruited by several D1 schools and the majority of the Ivy league. I never said Kelly was a D1 factory I just stated facts about two seniors who are being recruited. You are stating your opinion about certain players being D1 caliber.

Liberty has one player with division 1 offers. The rest is just your opinion
[/quote] Just Mark My Words, The 2011-2012 Liberty Panther Roster Will Have More D1 Recruits Than Kelly's 2011-2012 Roster, Maybe Twice As Many. But of course that statement will be blown off until it happens... So when these juniors and sophomores commit in the next few years, you know when some can officially be recruited, remember that it was just our opinion, and just pure speculation.
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Do you realize how stupid that statement is?? They won't be the 2011-2012 Liberty Panthers when they become Juniors and Seniors, they will be the 2012 and 2013 Liberty Panthers, nice try though
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it's clear to me that you now have a comprehension issue. your either misreading or misunderstanding everyones post and i don't even feel the need to break things down for you, cuz clearly you still wouldn't get it..
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[quote name="Kelly Basketball" post="1056565" timestamp="1315981064"]
That would be like Kelly claiming that when they had Prewitt and company as underclassmen they were a D1 powerhouse. Players like Prewitt, Meighen, etc wernt D1 players when they were playing with Corona and Randall [b]they became D1 players when they matured and became juniors and seniors  [/b] ::)
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that's what everyones been tellin you about liberty's kids.. WOW! they are JUST NOW juniors (excluding melton) and can JUST NOW be OFFICIALLY RECRUITED.. doesn't mean several BIG 12 and PAC 12 schools haven't ALREADY been in contact. but i'm not DUMB ENOUGH to throw around names, PLAYERS OR SCHOOLS.. i happen to KNOW BETTER.. but whatever guy, juss don't cry too hard after the loss and after liberty puts 6 kids in TOP NOTCH D-1 SCHOOLS in the NEXT 2-3 YEARS!.. THROUGH WASTING MY TIME ON YOU, YOU CAN'T COMPREHEND (UNDERSTAND) ANYTHING being said.. and i dunno know whether it's more SAD or ANNOYING. THAT IS ALL..
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Kelly basketball happens to be extremely well informed regarding both basketball and football recruiting.  If these kids from Liberty are interested in going on to play college football, they would be smart to contact him and employee him to help put together highlight tapes and provide mailing lists for schools and the appropriate coaches.  He has helped multiple kids from this area.  Trust me when I tell you he is not just blowing smoke.
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