stevenash Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 9 minutes ago, Dick Vitale said: WouThe hiring of Dave Bliss is a CLEAR indicator that there are two sets of laws and rules in the business of coaching. But if you don't see it, I can't make you see it. It is CRYSTAL CLEAR though. I think Todd Sutherland or Clay Davis would have been EXCELLENT for the Ozen program...Perhaps they went in the same type of direction that HJ normally does...Hire their own...Maybe...I don't know. Question: What if Andre Boutte would have applied for the HJ job when Todd left? Now I know you are close to the situation, but who would have been your choice, removing all bias? Impossible to remove all bias. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Vitale Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 1 minute ago, theNeed4Speed said: Like I stated though. Clay was slated for that job. Only way he don't get it, is if he don't want it. That's just my opinion. Fair enough...Congrats again to the Jamerson kid and his family.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Vitale Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 1 minute ago, stevenash said: Impossible to remove all bias. I understand. Just a good debate question...and you know I love a good debate! Congrats to the Jamerson kid, once again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 My guess is that schools base their decision on considerably more than just the win- loss record of the applicants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Buddy Garrity Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 2 minutes ago, stevenash said: My guess is that schools base their decision on considerably more than just the win- loss record of the applicants. Hey how long was he an assistant for Sutherland? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 I believe he was an assistant for the entire Sutherland term. Additionally, he also coached at the HJ junior high level and served as the HJ Freshman coach prior to leaving for his first head coaching job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Game Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Wow! I saw this thread had 30 comments and I thought the SETX community was showing support for this fine young man. Instead, it was hijacked by someone with their own agenda. Not every situation is about YOU, DV. Jamerson is a great kid with tons of talent and I am pleased to see him getting the opportunity to continue playing while getting an education. Congrats to him and his parents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Vitale Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 30 minutes ago, Dick Vitale said: I understand. Just a good debate question...and you know I love a good debate! Congrats to the Jamerson kid, once again! Either you can't read very well or just missed me trying to deflect the conversation back to the topic...I will say that you just missed it...smh 33 minutes ago, Dick Vitale said: Fair enough...Congrats again to the Jamerson kid and his family.... Hey LOOK! I did it TWICE.....smh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Game Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 31 minutes ago, Dick Vitale said: Either you can't read very well or just missed me trying to deflect the conversation back to the topic...I will say that you just missed it...smh Hey LOOK! I did it TWICE.....smh I did see these comments after the 8 previous comments made by you, which have nothing to do with this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Vitale Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 29 minutes ago, Team Game said: I did see these comments after the 8 previous comments made by you, which have nothing to do with this thread. So I guess I was on here having a conversation with myself then, huh? smh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDOVE3 Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 5 hours ago, Dick Vitale said: Why are you shocked, Dove...You know they get many, many second third and sixth chances as coaches....failure after failure, they will get re-hired...Must be nice...Hey Dove...Ever wonder where Tony Branch has been after coaching at Lamar and given only a YEAR to make things happen there? Hmmmm. I was saying the same thing about the Brown coach past coach for the Lakers and Cavs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDOVE3 Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 1 hour ago, stevenash said: My guess is that schools base their decision on considerably more than just the win- loss record of the applicants. Hmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 32 minutes ago, BLUEDOVE3 said: I was saying the same thing about the Brown coach past coach for the Lakers and Cavs. Mike Brown? The one who went to the Lakers after the Cavs? Can't be- those guys dont get second chances according to DV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Vitale Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 10 minutes ago, stevenash said: Mike Brown? The one who went to the Lakers after the Cavs? Can't be- those guys dont get second chances according to DV Well, where is he coaching this year? Don't worry, take your time, I'll wait.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 12 minutes ago, Dick Vitale said: Well, where is he coaching this year? Don't worry, take your time, I'll wait.... Do you mean after he went back to the Cavaliers? Cavs, Lakers, Cavs Three chances not enough? Is it racist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Vitale Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 1 minute ago, stevenash said: Do you mean after he went back to the Cavaliers? Cavs, Lakers, Cavs Three chances not enough? Is it racist? Oh wait did I miss something? Was Mike Brown let go for a murder cover up, or was he just fired to go in a different direction? smh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 You didnt miss anything. He had three opportunities and none of them worked out. These are all attributable to racism? Yea, sure and Ali was injected with Parkinsons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Vitale Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 1 minute ago, stevenash said: You didnt miss anything. He had three opportunities and none of them worked out. These are all attributable to racism? Yea, sure and Ali was injected with Parkinsons. Yep, and they lied about injecting those men with Syphilis for YEARS too....But they did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 And Mike Brown deserves a fourth chance and a fifth if necessary and on and on until he finds a situation that doesnt involve caucasians. Then he will become a great coach? They lied about injecting Syphillis for years? Does that remind you of the Obama Administration and the IRS where Mr. Obama said, on national television that there was "not one smidgeon of indication of corruption? I guess the recent court order shows differently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scatright Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 On 6/8/2016 at 11:25 AM, Dick Vitale said: COACHES THAT DONT LOOK LIKE DOVE AND I.....Mike Newell left my brother and three of his Lamar teammates in a DARK LOUISIANA town gas station while they were waiting to use the restroom, because he was mad about a loss! He should not be coaching at the collegiate level...period...but now? He is the head coach at Dillard University...And don't let me talk about DAVE BLISS! COVERED UP A MURDER! NOW? Head coach at SW Christian University....THAT IS THEY. In all actuality, it's much simpler than you are making it. Those guys are just better coaches than you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDOVE3 Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 On 6/8/2016 at 11:25 AM, Dick Vitale said: COACHES THAT DONT LOOK LIKE DOVE AND I.....Mike Newell left my brother and three of his Lamar teammates in a DARK LOUISIANA town gas station while they were waiting to use the restroom, because he was mad about a loss! He should not be coaching at the collegiate level...period...but now? He is the head coach at Dillard University...And don't let me talk about DAVE BLISS! COVERED UP A MURDER! NOW? Head coach at SW Christian University....THAT IS THEY. Oh man, I just read this post. I remember that incident. Dude wasn't fired after that incident. And poor Branch, thats another topic for discussion. If memory serves me right, Tony was given a 5 year contract ( or was it 4 YEARS)and fired after 2 seasons. iT TAKES 2-3 years to build some teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Vitale Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 7 hours ago, Scatright said: In all actuality, it's much simpler than you are making it. Those guys are just better coaches than you. Says who? They have not won more than me I PROMISE you that and as a matter of fact in 2014, Bliss and I were both coaches in TCAL, and I was chosen COACH OF THE YEAR. Now....I need you to gently take your foot out of your mouth and leave the thread. Quietly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 8 hours ago, BLUEDOVE3 said: Oh man, I just read this post. I remember that incident. Dude wasn't fired after that incident. And poor Branch, thats another topic for discussion. If memory serves me right, Tony was given a 5 year contract ( or was it 4 YEARS)and fired after 2 seasons. iT TAKES 2-3 years to build some teams. I knew Tony fairly well and also believe he should have been given more time. Dove, do you and Dickie believe that he was fired because he was black? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Vitale Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 1 hour ago, stevenash said: I knew Tony fairly well and also believe he should have been given more time. Dove, do you and Dickie believe that he was fired because he was black? No, he just wasn't given ample time to build. But they gave Pat Knight time...and he did nothing. So you draw a reasonable conclusion as to why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Reasonable? As in Parkinsons injection? How many years did Pat KNight get? Was it three? So thats one year more than Tony and he did win the conference his first year there. Few if any of the same decision makers were there for both Tony and Pat. Sorry, am unable to read racism into that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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