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[quote name="LP6" post="1295762" timestamp="1349819886"] [quote author=TexasMinuteman link=topic=104201.msg1292774#msg1292774 date=1349530928] Top three will be CS,Huffman and Cleveland. Huffman could upset CS, the defending District Champs,but until they do it'll be this way. Liberty gave up 28 points to Splendora in their win last week and Cleveland didnt allow not a single point this week against them.Liberty will have to throw the ball a lot but Cleveland's secondary is too quick and if they try to run the ball all game like they did against Huffman they'll really get killed.Deel has to run more than the few number of plays he's running.   Some believe the players give up early in the game,well so do the coaches.The play selection proves this.I really feel for some of these players.The comment that Liberty has no D1 players is unfortunatly true but thats not the fault of the players that had D1 potential.I believe that a couple of these players would've had a decent chance had they been under another program.Daniel Fitzwater is a good example of this.His parents moved him where he had a better chance to be noticed.With the numbers he's putting up he is being noticed.Had he stayed at Liberty no school would even be looking. And I dont want to hear from any Liberty or Fitz haters that he's not being looked at because he is.FACT.Im not saying offers Im saying scouts.Looking and offers are different. Anyway,Liberty will get 4th at best if they dont get the big head and think they can beat Tarkington,those cowpokes are getting hungry for a district win. [/quote] I've been trying to stay off this website since Liberty is so bad and I'm a fan and don't want to get heated, but I was just appalled over and over again with the "no d1 players comment' you guys don't know our players. Omar Tebo is 300 pounds and runs under 5, he won state in power lifting, heavyweight division, I'm close friends with a former Liberty players who currently plays offensive line for Texas State University (D1 WAC) and he played with Tebo for a year or two and has no doubt in his mind that Tebo could keep up with him and his teammates. Omar isn't receiving letters anymore, he's receiving phone calls, and personal visits and some coaches have come out to watch him play/practice. He's an outstanding young man, smart, stays on his grades, and has a great family that makes sure he's on top of his game, he is polite and he happens to be an athlete. He has all the characteristics to make it to the next level then add in his size speed and strength and you would be considered ignorant for saying he won't go division 1. That's all I have to say about that topic for those of you from Huffman or wherever the heck your from thinking your some type of division 1 recruiting analyst, I'm no analyst myself but I've seen with my own eyes recruiters showing extreme interest in Omar, so have a nice day everyone. [/quote] Finally, great post. And with that, after today I'm through with the setx hs forums myself. Liberty haters rejoice!

[quote name="bronco1" post="1295583" timestamp="1349804937"] [quote author=HookEm2013 link=topic=104201.msg1292495#msg1292495 date=1349498918] Rofl, tell that to the north texas coaches there for tebo and the many colleges after mosley. When do you think they quit? [b]They tried, they were outmatched[/b]. Simple. Wait.. you're right. [b]Huffman was full of d1 players [/b] and Liberty didn't even have a player that could make practice team at Lamar. You're right. [/quote] That means that the Huffman player they were matched up against was better, and if Huffman doesn't have any D1 talent then well... [/quote] Show me where I said huffman didn't have any d1 players. Btw, look at the saints and arkansas.. all the talent in the world with no coaching doesn't translate into W's. Try again.

[quote name="cowboydogg" post="1294469" timestamp="1349696985"] What happened to the Standish? [/quote] concussion. be back for cleveland.

[quote name="HookEm2013" post="1292461" timestamp="1349497941"] *Admin edit* [/quote] Admin edit? Rofl, you can trash players but you can't say flying with periods after it. wow.

[quote name="89falcon" post="1293867" timestamp="1349618559"] [quote author=Rice-Coach link=topic=104201.msg1293826#msg1293826 date=1349611651] If falls on the coaches. simple you should not lose your players and your players mentality should not be give up. simple As a coach you must motivate and keep your players up and high. They only do what they see you do. Liberty must make a change! [/quote] Easier said than done. Players do not "only do what they see the coach do". It is not about the "Xs and Os" it is ALWAYS about the "Bobbys and Joes". Liberty was 7-3 last year with the same coaches. The coaches did not become incompetent all of a sudden. Liberty had no chance when the QB left. [/quote] And after the qb left, the back-up got hurt along with like 7 starters... disaster in the making.

Who wants to run three plays all game? Who wants to run the ball all game when your down by 20+? The kids walk around, pout, don't hit.. at all. Weak mentally and physically, I blame the coaches. I don't think the players should give up, but quite frankly.. how can you blame them? This is ridiculous. For all the hate, I understand, wasn't long ago that Liberty was whooping all of your teams. Enjoy running through the weak 22-3a and getting a first round exit.

[quote name="joker991" post="1292596" timestamp="1349502065"] what makes you think liberty is gonna get third? cleveland has a good team this yr and yes i have seen them play. why talk when liberty cant even win the big games but only the easy teams. yall lost to buna and h-f [/quote] ya'll? WE didn't do anything. lol. hf and buna affects liberty making the playoffs how? you're entitled to your own opinion, i'm entitled not to give a flying.. care. IMO liberty will get third, instead of trying to argue MY OPINION state yours and move along.

[quote name="TROJANSWIN" post="1292572" timestamp="1349500737"] [quote author=HookEm2013 link=topic=104201.msg1292558#msg1292558 date=1349500428] [quote author=TROJANSWIN link=topic=104201.msg1292552#msg1292552 date=1349500250] [quote author=HookEm2013 link=topic=104201.msg1292457#msg1292457 date=1349497850] [quote author=3apantherfan link=topic=104201.msg1292132#msg1292132 date=1349492121] [b]I can't wait to get on here later and see what kind of excuses and dumb crap my fellow Liberty folks have to say![/b] Huffman is good. Liberty isn't so good. It's simple! [/quote] You think kissing huffmans ace will get people to like you? ROFL. just sad. Huffman is far better than Liberty, everyone knew that going in. Point blank period. Liberty ran cover 2 all night and 6 different plays over and over on offense. Definitely a key to success. [b]Still say they make playoffs [/b] and get blown away in the first round by whoever they meet. [/quote] Don't think so scooter!  Huffman, Coldspring, Cleveland!  Only 3 teams go.  No room for Liberty. [/quote] Your opinion is the gospel. [/quote] Nope, but let me know how it turns out at the end of the season. Cleveland has a good team this year. Coldspring has a good team this year. Huffman has a good team this year. Liberty does not have a good team this year. My opinion, the 3 good teams go to playoffs.  They not so good team doesn't.  Is that easier for you to understand? [/quote] You also predicted liberty would get blown out by splendora.. go figure. We shall see though, IMO it'll be 1. Huffman 2. Cs 3. Liberty

[quote name="falconfanatic" post="1292567" timestamp="1349500621"] [quote author=HookEm2013 link=topic=104201.msg1292541#msg1292541 date=1349499943] [quote author=falconfanatic link=topic=104201.msg1292529#msg1292529 date=1349499726] [quote author=HookEm2013 link=topic=104201.msg1292503#msg1292503 date=1349499062] [quote author=BringThePain link=topic=104201.msg1292483#msg1292483 date=1349498525] [quote author=HookEm2013 link=topic=104201.msg1292474#msg1292474 date=1349498253] [quote author=BringThePain link=topic=104201.msg1292213#msg1292213 date=1349493032] [quote author=BroncQB7 link=topic=104201.msg1292179#msg1292179 date=1349492652] How in the world did Liberty get so bad? [/quote] I've been telling you guys, they quit when the going gets tough. [b]All that "d1" talent lays down a gets walked on.[/b] the coaching is terrible, players attitudes are terrible, programs terrible. If you think tonight's bad, wait until the fallout starts next week. It gonna be real bad. [/quote] Smh. If you don't think Liberty has a few d1 players, well that speaks for itself. I don't think they laid down, they just got beat down. Probably got tired of running the same plays over and over.. and over. When you're down 42-7 and your coach keeps running, I bet it's hard to keep your morale up. Liberty only attempted 5 passes tonight, hopefully this is the year they fire deel and find a real coach. He lost the players the first game of the season. Don't misconstrue my comments, huffman was/is the better team, by miles and miles. PERIOD. Side note, I wouldn't get to arrogant.. you guys will have your day soon enough. [/quote][ftp][/ftp] I'm not arrogant at all, you know where island on all of this. Those guys quit tonight. Everyone in the stadium saw that. BTW there is not one d1 player on Libertys roster, not one. If be surprised if there was a single d2 player. We will reconvene and disuss this point after signing day in Feb. I'll be right, you'll be wrong.  ;) [/quote] One serious question though. If liberty is so terrible, why is everyone about to have a screaming o over beating them? It's like this anytime they lose. Makes no sense. [/quote] As long as [b]Liberty fans continue to predict district championships durring 7 on 7 season[/b] then people will continue to rub it in they're face whenever they lose. [/quote] Missed that. [/quote] [quote author=Ex-Panther link=topic=100264.msg1228301#msg1228301 date=1338739032] Liberty is loaded and stacked this year, The expectations are real high this season. It's been a while since Liberty had a  anticipated season. I think Liberty will win District go deep into the playoffs, after that Deel will get a bonus and contract extended for 6 years watch and see.. quote me please >:( >:( >:( [/quote] Here you go. [/quote] O.........M...........G! Rofl... well, when you're wrong you're wrong. Point taken.

really.. lol

[quote name="TROJANSWIN" post="1292552" timestamp="1349500250"] [quote author=HookEm2013 link=topic=104201.msg1292457#msg1292457 date=1349497850] [quote author=3apantherfan link=topic=104201.msg1292132#msg1292132 date=1349492121] [b]I can't wait to get on here later and see what kind of excuses and dumb crap my fellow Liberty folks have to say![/b] Huffman is good. Liberty isn't so good. It's simple! [/quote] You think kissing huffmans ace will get people to like you? ROFL. just sad. Huffman is far better than Liberty, everyone knew that going in. Point blank period. Liberty ran cover 2 all night and 6 different plays over and over on offense. Definitely a key to success. [b]Still say they make playoffs [/b] and get blown away in the first round by whoever they meet. [/quote] Don't think so scooter!  Huffman, Coldspring, Cleveland!  Only 3 teams go.  No room for Liberty. [/quote] Your opinion is the gospel.

[quote name="falconfanatic" post="1292529" timestamp="1349499726"] [quote author=HookEm2013 link=topic=104201.msg1292503#msg1292503 date=1349499062] [quote author=BringThePain link=topic=104201.msg1292483#msg1292483 date=1349498525] [quote author=HookEm2013 link=topic=104201.msg1292474#msg1292474 date=1349498253] [quote author=BringThePain link=topic=104201.msg1292213#msg1292213 date=1349493032] [quote author=BroncQB7 link=topic=104201.msg1292179#msg1292179 date=1349492652] How in the world did Liberty get so bad? [/quote] I've been telling you guys, they quit when the going gets tough. [b]All that "d1" talent lays down a gets walked on.[/b] the coaching is terrible, players attitudes are terrible, programs terrible. If you think tonight's bad, wait until the fallout starts next week. It gonna be real bad. [/quote] Smh. If you don't think Liberty has a few d1 players, well that speaks for itself. I don't think they laid down, they just got beat down. Probably got tired of running the same plays over and over.. and over. When you're down 42-7 and your coach keeps running, I bet it's hard to keep your morale up. Liberty only attempted 5 passes tonight, hopefully this is the year they fire deel and find a real coach. He lost the players the first game of the season. Don't misconstrue my comments, huffman was/is the better team, by miles and miles. PERIOD. Side note, I wouldn't get to arrogant.. you guys will have your day soon enough. [/quote][ftp][/ftp] I'm not arrogant at all, you know where island on all of this. Those guys quit tonight. Everyone in the stadium saw that. BTW there is not one d1 player on Libertys roster, not one. If be surprised if there was a single d2 player. We will reconvene and disuss this point after signing day in Feb. I'll be right, you'll be wrong.  ;) [/quote] One serious question though. If liberty is so terrible, why is everyone about to have a screaming o over beating them? It's like this anytime they lose. Makes no sense. [/quote] As long as [b]Liberty fans continue to predict district championships durring 7 on 7 season[/b] then people will continue to rub it in they're face whenever they lose. [/quote] Missed that.

[quote name="3apantherfan" post="1292522" timestamp="1349499624"] No it's just stupid, 6 years ago there or whenever it was that I first signed on to here there weren't a bunch of ignorant people making outrageous predictions! I'll be the first to admit also that I support the student athletes but not the coaching staff! Every week someone has a new excuse for why the games aren't close. It's very obvious why though. [/quote] These outrageous predictions you speak of.. they are? Do you not think Liberty can possibly beat shepherd tarkington and cleveland? Not that unheard of if you ask me. I see a lot of reasons why Liberty gets beat the way they do. I rarely seeing people saying "they would have won if." All about perception I suppose. Only been here a few months, and some people on this site has already sickened me to the max.

[quote name="BringThePain" post="1292483" timestamp="1349498525"] [quote author=HookEm2013 link=topic=104201.msg1292474#msg1292474 date=1349498253] [quote author=BringThePain link=topic=104201.msg1292213#msg1292213 date=1349493032] [quote author=BroncQB7 link=topic=104201.msg1292179#msg1292179 date=1349492652] How in the world did Liberty get so bad? [/quote] I've been telling you guys, they quit when the going gets tough. [b]All that "d1" talent lays down a gets walked on.[/b] the coaching is terrible, players attitudes are terrible, programs terrible. If you think tonight's bad, wait until the fallout starts next week. It gonna be real bad. [/quote] Smh. If you don't think Liberty has a few d1 players, well that speaks for itself. I don't think they laid down, they just got beat down. Probably got tired of running the same plays over and over.. and over. When you're down 42-7 and your coach keeps running, I bet it's hard to keep your morale up. Liberty only attempted 5 passes tonight, hopefully this is the year they fire deel and find a real coach. He lost the players the first game of the season. Don't misconstrue my comments, huffman was/is the better team, by miles and miles. PERIOD. Side note, I wouldn't get to arrogant.. you guys will have your day soon enough. [/quote][ftp][/ftp] I'm not arrogant at all, you know where island on all of this. Those guys quit tonight. Everyone in the stadium saw that. BTW there is not one d1 player on Libertys roster, not one. If be surprised if there was a single d2 player. We will reconvene and disuss this point after signing day in Feb. I'll be right, you'll be wrong.  ;) [/quote] One serious question though. If liberty is so terrible, why is everyone about to have a screaming o over beating them? It's like this anytime they lose. Makes no sense.

[quote name="truefan" post="1292492" timestamp="1349498769"] I would agree.  I did not see a d1 on Liberty...  The d1 on the field was the kicker from Huffman! [/quote] What d1 team do you recruit for again? lol. All bs aside though, that kicker did have a foot on em..

[quote name="BringThePain" post="1292483" timestamp="1349498525"] [quote author=HookEm2013 link=topic=104201.msg1292474#msg1292474 date=1349498253] [quote author=BringThePain link=topic=104201.msg1292213#msg1292213 date=1349493032] [quote author=BroncQB7 link=topic=104201.msg1292179#msg1292179 date=1349492652] How in the world did Liberty get so bad? [/quote] I've been telling you guys, they quit when the going gets tough. [b]All that "d1" talent lays down a gets walked on.[/b] the coaching is terrible, players attitudes are terrible, programs terrible. If you think tonight's bad, wait until the fallout starts next week. It gonna be real bad. [/quote] Smh. If you don't think Liberty has a few d1 players, well that speaks for itself. I don't think they laid down, they just got beat down. Probably got tired of running the same plays over and over.. and over. When you're down 42-7 and your coach keeps running, I bet it's hard to keep your morale up. Liberty only attempted 5 passes tonight, hopefully this is the year they fire deel and find a real coach. He lost the players the first game of the season. Don't misconstrue my comments, huffman was/is the better team, by miles and miles. PERIOD. Side note, I wouldn't get to arrogant.. you guys will have your day soon enough. [/quote][ftp][/ftp] I'm not arrogant at all, you know where island on all of this. Those guys quit tonight. Everyone in the stadium saw that. BTW there is not one d1 player on Libertys roster, not one. If be surprised if there was a single d2 player. We will reconvene and disuss this point after signing day in Feb. I'll be right, you'll be wrong.  ;) [/quote] Rofl, tell that to the north texas coaches there for tebo and the many colleges after mosley. When do you think they quit? They tried, they were outmatched. Simple. Wait.. you're right. Huffman was full of d1 players and Liberty didn't even have a player that could make practice team at Lamar. You're right.

[quote name="BringThePain" post="1292213" timestamp="1349493032"] [quote author=BroncQB7 link=topic=104201.msg1292179#msg1292179 date=1349492652] How in the world did Liberty get so bad? [/quote] I've been telling you guys, they quit when the going gets tough. [b]All that "d1" talent lays down a gets walked on.[/b] the coaching is terrible, players attitudes are terrible, programs terrible. If you think tonight's bad, wait until the fallout starts next week. It gonna be real bad. [/quote] Smh. If you don't think Liberty has a few d1 players, well that speaks for itself. I don't think they laid down, they just got beat down. Probably got tired of running the same plays over and over.. and over. When you're down 42-7 and your coach keeps running, I bet it's hard to keep your morale up. Liberty only attempted 5 passes tonight, hopefully this is the year they fire deel and find a real coach. He lost the players the first game of the season. Don't misconstrue my comments, huffman was/is the better team, by miles and miles. PERIOD. Side note, I wouldn't get to arrogant.. you guys will have your day soon enough.

wow... good job HD

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[quote name="3apantherfan" post="1292132" timestamp="1349492121"] [b]I can't wait to get on here later and see what kind of excuses and dumb crap my fellow Liberty folks have to say![/b] Huffman is good. Liberty isn't so good. It's simple! [/quote] You think kissing huffmans ace will get people to like you? ROFL. just sad. Huffman is far better than Liberty, everyone knew that going in. Point blank period. Liberty ran cover 2 all night and 6 different plays over and over on offense. Definitely a key to success. Still say they make playoffs and get blown away in the first round by whoever they meet.

John L Smith > shane deel..

[quote name="Sooner1" post="1291909" timestamp="1349488670"] 49-7 at the half. Where is Hook-em 2013 when you need him [/quote] You need me for what reason? What a homo.. smh

[quote name="89falcon" post="1288395" timestamp="1349138367"] This should not even be a thread. It is no longer fun piling on top of Liberty fans. Except for Hook'em 2013 who is really just a poser Liberty fan. [/quote] Blah blah. Once they clean that school board up they'll have a fan.. until then.

[quote name="Txdragon" post="1286416" timestamp="1348943992"] Honestly, I don't think most coaches adapt their system to the players.  Some may change certain aspect of the system such as more man coverage with a shutdown corner. I think this is where the right coach for the right situation comes into play. Teams are reflections of their coaches not the coaches of the kids. Continuity is the key for any program, it's one reason WOS has had such great success. A community blessed with speed kids need to hire a coach who KNOWS how to utilize it not someone who wants to pound the ball inside. Coaches are gonna go with what they are comfortable with. Yes, some coaching philosophies change, for example the wishbone, the veer, and now the spread. I just think that most changes (especially offensively) are geared more to the trend at the moment than changing a system for the kids. I have always heard a great coaches changes depending on what he has..I just don't think that changing offensive or defensive philosophy from year to year does anything but confuse your players. [/quote] Personnel would generally be the same for at least every 2-3yrs..

[quote name="coach pops" post="1286037" timestamp="1348916864"] I don't have a dog in the fight but here is an opinion. To win I have always believed that you must tweak your system around YOUR PLAYERS. I never felt that you go in with a system and come heck or high water stay rigidly with that option. A whole is only as good as the sum of its parts. You must play to your strengths and do whatever is best for your team and gives you the best chance of winning. That dictates that you must have the personnel on the field to accomplish that goal. If some get more playing time to accomplish your goal of winning then that is best for the overall team. If some playing both ways help the team win then so be it. In football and within the rules of the game and fair play, the end justifies the means. You will never make every kid, parent or fan happy, but as a coach you must do what is best for the team and gives the team the best chance of success. [/quote] ^^^This