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Not trying to be disrespectful but suprising how some people don't understand the concept of District Play and playoffs mean nothing in this vote. As I've stated before all awards should be based on the stats during district play, no pre-season or playoffs. I will be .50 cents extra per ticket to have the district hire a 3rd party stat person for each game so no one calls foul. That is the only way it will every be fair. Looks like 19-4A has the same POLITICS! ;)

[quote name="Dayton Transplant" post="923666" timestamp="1291233536"] Relax. It's high school. The real game starts at the next level in all sports. Let them enjoy the accomplishments and enjoy HS. As we all know, this is the BEST TIME OF THEIR LIFE. [/quote] I agree and hope Merka has the last laugh. Dayton always puts out great atheletes but Merka deserved more. As I stated on our district choices unless they go by stats then it is no more than a typical HS popularity contest. Congrats to all the kids that play on the list or not. Sad to see ya'lls district is just as screwed up as ours. :(

[quote name="football" post="922833" timestamp="1291142583"] Unless you have an independent stat person at each game, then stats can be slanted.  Do you count how good the rb and wr block? Should you?  The only way you can change this process is to become a coach yourself and work to change the process to your liking. [/quote] This is not about my liking, I have friends at all schools and go watch as many games as I can. All sports are based on numbers therefore I asked the question why stats are not used. Not that difficult to keep up with, no hidden agenda for me, I just want the kid with the best numbers at his given position to be rewarded regardless of school. As someone stated before Trevin is District MVP in my book.

Can someone explain why stats are not used? I spoke to a local writer and he said they do not like the process. Is this something each district decides on it's on? Seems like there would be UIL guidelines. Like others have said not doing so is cheating the players on all teams. Congrats to 20-4A  players on and off the list!

I sure hope your district has better standards than ours, I'm sure most of you have seen that stats play no role on 20-4A All District honors. I hope ya'lls kids are treated better!

I thought I was joking in a earlier post about stats not counting, but now that it has been confirmed does say a lot about our district. Sure thought we were above this low of standards. Just like daily high school life it's all a popularity contest, great job in teaching our kids to work hard coaches. Congratulations to all those who play.

Thanks bh89-2, I really like ya'lls complex. Cougtalk- one last thing, yesterday in the KC vs. Seattle game J. Charles for KC & for Seattle J. Babineaux from same high school and Earl Thomas from WOS. In Falcons vs Packers on the Falcons the other Babineaux brother from P.A., Sean Weatherspoon from Jasper and game winning Matt Bryant from Bridge City. Sorry couldn't help it!

No offense takin Cougtalk, just my opinion, proud of the area and those who have had success.

[quote name="bh89-2" post="922381" timestamp="1291074880"] Yall need medical attention after BH hammered your tails and then Manvel put a whipping on ya.   ;D ;D [/quote] As long as it's the good stuff. ;) Won't be long we will be using your very nice basebal field in the playoffs, feel free to come and watch a good team. ;D

Cougtalk, don't you think those areas you named have quite few more in way of population then the area I am talking about. I guess I should have pointed that out in my original post, I'll stand by the fact that based on the POPULATION of our area we have had a remarkable amount of talent come from here in a many different talents.

[quote name="cooligan" post="922346" timestamp="1291070761"] This just In:   20-4a All District 1st Team Offense:                     QB - PNG'S, RB's - PNG'S, OL - PNG'S, WR's - PNG'S                     MVP - PNG'S Defense for forcing the offense to score all                                 those points and making everybody look so good                               with the extra opportunities.                     Coach of the Nation goes to Faircloth                     Did we leave anyone out?  ::) [/quote] Your point is valid, yes we went over the top myself included. I would like to know what the selection process is for the coaches? You cannot deny that stats must not count for as much as most think. Congrats to all those who play not only the studs.

[quote name="WOSgrad" post="922320" timestamp="1291068327"] [quote author=Enjun07 link=topic=76798.msg922315#msg922315 date=1291068154] No Doubt about it...this is not the list...so yall can take it off here! [/quote] And where is the list then? [/quote] Not sure what enjun is talking about it is in the Beaumont Surprise, I would hate to think they would be that stupid to put it in print.

Great post Kicker, these poor kids live in a "Drama" world. From the shows they watch to the behavior those of us that are suppose to be adults show in daily life. Not only to they face attacks from opponents from other schools but have to deal with crude that goes on inside their very own school. Some how some way respect for others must be instilled in our children or they will be the losers in the long run. Go PNG!

[quote name="19Cherokee90" post="922086" timestamp="1291056757"] I wonder how this list compairs to stat leaders??? I'd love to see that. [/quote] There is no way stats were taken in to consideration on either side of the ball. No disrespect for the young man named Def. MVP from Central because he is an awesome talent but I would like to see the numbers of tackles, tackles for loss, interceptions, blocked punts/field goals etc. for him vs. DJ. Sorry to vent and congratulations to all those who were recognized and to those who weren't and played hard all year. I would also like to go on the record to commend Ozen for team with "The Most Heart" of the year, they never gave up in any game and could have easily had a playoff record! Go PNG!

Both teams have nothing to be proud of in the way of sportsmanship. This is a trend that is growing in HS sports and it is sad to see. As someone mentioned earlier I was very impressed as well (and nervous) that #5 went and found DJ(#33), I think he realized DJ gives his heart and soul on every play and respected him for that. Manvel has the chance to be a force for years to come if they learn to chill out. Regardless if it is PNG or any team you cannot let another team cause you to react in a negative way. Good luck to those remaining in the playoffs and to all the kids who play sports are in the band/cheerleaders or dance teams. To those of you who have kids still playing or will be playing in the future help them be good people on and off the field. College and pro sports are out of control and our kids see this and think it is normal. Teach them to respect others and themselves or they will lose in the end. Go PNG!