True Blue

JMO but today every kid has a cell phone with mom and dad on speed dial. I would have made that call and would have just set there until one of them to show up and pickup little johnny. I would have never left them in a town one hour away. But I would have not let them back on the bus. But maybe after a hour ride that mom and dad had to make to pick up their angel maybe they would teach them how to act  when on a school trip.

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1212066" timestamp="1334761225"] In the 8 years that Silsbee has been in 3A, they have made the regional tourney 6 of those 8 seasons. The Tigers made regionals in '05, '07, '08, '09, '10, '12, making the regional finals in '05, '07, '08, '10, '12, advancing to state in '08 and '10. [/quote]WOW I always though that HJ was the only powerhouse in 3a ;D I guess the saying is right[size=14pt][color=red]( the wheel that sweets the most get the most grease )[/color][/size]

As long as the schools are making Billions off these kids, I feel that if the kid is good enough to get payed today, then get the money. You can buy a education, but if you get hurt playing for free. Whos going to pay then??

[quote name="stevenash" post="1211996" timestamp="1334754741"] [quote author=True Blue link=topic=98548.msg1211994#msg1211994 date=1334754621] [quote author=bmrm link=topic=98548.msg1211894#msg1211894 date=1334716662] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=98548.msg1211455#msg1211455 date=1334674059] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=98548.msg1211452#msg1211452 date=1334673843] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=98548.msg1211444#msg1211444 date=1334673513] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=98548.msg1211440#msg1211440 date=1334673396] no- really? [/quote] Yep...and from what I here they have a pretty decent basketball program over there too... ;) [/quote] Are they really going to do away with the 3-a tourney and award the title by default to Yates in perpetuity? [/quote]nOPE!  We want you play and experience *real basketball*  ;D [/quote] We'll continue to play non-"real basketball" & [color=red]advance further in the playoffs than anyone else in the area[/color] - Silsbee excluded. [/quote] Just when was the last time HJ did that???? [/quote] My memory is a little fuzzy but I would think 2007 has a very good chance of qualifying. [/quote]Its 2012 So its been 5 yr that HJ has advanced further than any other team in the area. I would not say that as CONTINUING ADVANCING FURTHER.  HJ has a good program but so do other area teams ;D ;D  Dont try and make your team look good by putting others down.

[quote name="bmrm" post="1211894" timestamp="1334716662"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=98548.msg1211455#msg1211455 date=1334674059] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=98548.msg1211452#msg1211452 date=1334673843] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=98548.msg1211444#msg1211444 date=1334673513] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=98548.msg1211440#msg1211440 date=1334673396] no- really? [/quote] Yep...and from what I here they have a pretty decent basketball program over there too... ;) [/quote] Are they really going to do away with the 3-a tourney and award the title by default to Yates in perpetuity? [/quote]nOPE!  We want you play and experience *real basketball*  ;D [/quote] We'll continue to play non-"real basketball" & [color=red]advance further in the playoffs than anyone else in the area[/color] - Silsbee excluded. [/quote] Just when was the last time HJ did that????

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[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1209087" timestamp="1334151075"] I chose not to take you up on your bet because I did not want to bet against this young man's future. Just didn't think it was right. Had I taken the bet it would look like I would have a rooting interest against Shawn's success and that simply isn't the case. [/quote] I tried to find were I had said pretty much the samething about a month ago. I would have loved to take Steves money, and though I had a better than 50% chance of it, But I would never want to bet against any kid from this area of making it .

[quote name="Coach D" post="1208947" timestamp="1334108250"] true blue, i can assure you shawn's situation is very different than the others...he is a qualifier [/quote]What do you mean by Qualifier?? I think that DC had as good of a game as any kid that has came from this area. But Shawn can play with the best of them and hold his own. I was just hoping to see him get the chance to show that kids from small schools can make it on a D1 team....

I am also very happy to see Shawn make it to the next level, But my only Question is why is it that the best two players in the last two yrs both are having to go the Jr co route. I think that both will be playing at the D1 level before their career is over.

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It just depends on what you like to watch. I like to watch a team ,that is matched up even and play good def. and a good half court off. Small School.. But I understand that some like to watch a Team run up and down with dunks and alleys with very little def. 4 and 5a....

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1199572" timestamp="1332257829"] Is Bray the kid who moved to California and came back to Kountze? [/quote]yep you got it... that him, hes playing at Jc now but have not heard if he got picked up this yr. Watch him play PA and he looked good. But at 6'2'' he has a little prob. matching up on the def. side.. and he does not have a good out side shot.. his game is more of taking is off the dribble and going to the rack.

[quote name="KHSAlum400" post="1199507" timestamp="1332251384"] [quote author=LP6 link=topic=97341.msg1199428#msg1199428 date=1332211466] [quote author=True Blue link=topic=97341.msg1199294#msg1199294 date=1332200698] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=97341.msg1199185#msg1199185 date=1332182790] [quote author=True Blue link=topic=97341.msg1199173#msg1199173 date=1332181297] [quote author=LP6 link=topic=97341.msg1199166#msg1199166 date=1332180745] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=97341.msg1195010#msg1195010 date=1331318812] This topic was brought up from the State Tourney games today wich were lower classifications.  We called them 'not real'.  Thoughts? [/quote] You could have 5 starters from say Bmt Ozen, all move to a 1A school, would you then call their games "not real" no? You never know what kind of athletes you''ll see in lower classifications, way more often than not, there is more talent in the higher classifications obviously, but some of these smaller schools especially in basketball can feature some big time players, Kountze Devin Bray, 6-3 200 pounds, he would have played on any team in the state 1-5A, so while he was out on the court and when his team was in Austin how could you say that's not 'real' basketball when you could have placed Bray on that HJ 3A team that was also at state and he would have been a force in that game, the 4a and the 5a state game, you can't say it's not real because you never know what kind of talent these small schools can come up with, but generally the last place team in a 2a district vs the 2nd to last place team won't be as exciting as two last place 5a teams going at it, but when talking about State tournaments, yes it's real basketball. [/quote] Well i agree with most of what your saying except the fact the Devin never made it to Austin, I watch him play 3 times that yr and was in the Gym when he lost to NW before they made it to Austin. [/quote] Devin was on the Kountze team and played when Kountze won the state championship in 2007, the same year HJ won the 3A title. [/quote]OH I did not know that.. He must have been a Freshman. Did he start as a Freshman??? [/quote] he was prolly a  sophomore [/quote] He was a Freshman, did not start but made huge contributions throughout the year and especially at the Regional Tournament and State Tournament that year. [/quote] I will say he was one of the best small forwards I have seen play in the 1a to 3a schools. Dont know if he will be a star in collage, but he did shine in high school...

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1199185" timestamp="1332182790"] [quote author=True Blue link=topic=97341.msg1199173#msg1199173 date=1332181297] [quote author=LP6 link=topic=97341.msg1199166#msg1199166 date=1332180745] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=97341.msg1195010#msg1195010 date=1331318812] This topic was brought up from the State Tourney games today wich were lower classifications.  We called them 'not real'.  Thoughts? [/quote] You could have 5 starters from say Bmt Ozen, all move to a 1A school, would you then call their games "not real" no? You never know what kind of athletes you''ll see in lower classifications, way more often than not, there is more talent in the higher classifications obviously, but some of these smaller schools especially in basketball can feature some big time players, Kountze Devin Bray, 6-3 200 pounds, he would have played on any team in the state 1-5A, so while he was out on the court and when his team was in Austin how could you say that's not 'real' basketball when you could have placed Bray on that HJ 3A team that was also at state and he would have been a force in that game, the 4a and the 5a state game, you can't say it's not real because you never know what kind of talent these small schools can come up with, but generally the last place team in a 2a district vs the 2nd to last place team won't be as exciting as two last place 5a teams going at it, but when talking about State tournaments, yes it's real basketball. [/quote] Well i agree with most of what your saying except the fact the Devin never made it to Austin, I watch him play 3 times that yr and was in the Gym when he lost to NW before they made it to Austin. [/quote] Devin was on the Kountze team and played when Kountze won the state championship in 2007, the same year HJ won the 3A title. [/quote]OH I did not know that.. He must have been a Freshman. Did he start as a Freshman???

[quote name="LP6" post="1199166" timestamp="1332180745"] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=97341.msg1195010#msg1195010 date=1331318812] This topic was brought up from the State Tourney games today wich were lower classifications.  We called them 'not real'.  Thoughts? [/quote] You could have 5 starters from say Bmt Ozen, all move to a 1A school, would you then call their games "not real" no? You never know what kind of athletes you''ll see in lower classifications, way more often than not, there is more talent in the higher classifications obviously, but some of these smaller schools especially in basketball can feature some big time players, Kountze Devin Bray, 6-3 200 pounds, he would have played on any team in the state 1-5A, so while he was out on the court and when his team was in Austin how could you say that's not 'real' basketball when you could have placed Bray on that HJ 3A team that was also at state and he would have been a force in that game, the 4a and the 5a state game, you can't say it's not real because you never know what kind of talent these small schools can come up with, but generally the last place team in a 2a district vs the 2nd to last place team won't be as exciting as two last place 5a teams going at it, but when talking about State tournaments, yes it's real basketball. [/quote] Well i agree with most of what your saying except the fact the Devin never made it to Austin, I watch him play 3 times that yr and was in the Gym when he lost to NW before they made it to Austin.

[quote name="Lt. Dangle" post="1197537" timestamp="1331819221"] [quote author=True Blue link=topic=97235.msg1197418#msg1197418 date=1331776988] Steve I would love to take your $$$ but I would never bet against a KID getting help to go to school... Like I said I wish him alll the luck in the world, But I have seen him play, and I saw DC, and some of the other kids that were as good last yr, And none of them are playing D1 now. But there is nothing wrong with going the Jr Co route [/quote] The phrase " JuCo route " is a bit misleading. IMO - it leads one to believe that it is a stop along the way to a D-1 career when (and I would gladly entertain 3-1 odds on this) in fact maybe 1 out of 100 (1%)of the kids who do play JuCo never get a shot @ moving up to a D-1 scholarship. [/quote] Ok so your saying that only 1% of the kids that play Jr Co go on to play D1. So what do you think the % of kid that come from high school even make the Jr Co teams. Out of all the kids from the local area I know of only 4 from last yr teams. I dont follow the bigger 5a teams so I might have mised some. But 4 from the whole area is a very low % I would think

Well I hope your proven right, I all ways will pull for the local kids to make it. Even if their from the Evil l Empire Know AS HJ ;D ;D ;D

Steve I would love to take your $$$ but I would never bet against a KID getting help to go to school... Like I said I wish him alll the luck in the world, But I have seen him play, and I saw DC, and some of the other kids that were as good last yr, And none of them are playing D1 now. But there is nothing wrong with going the Jr Co route

[quote name="stevenash" post="1197356" timestamp="1331771203"] Prudhomme has two pretty solid possibilities not sure if he has a firm offer but the interest is high from two schools-  if anybody is interested I will give three to one odds he winds up at a d-1 school on a scholarship [/quote] I truly wish the kid all the luck in the world. I just know he is not quite as good as DC was last yr. And he is playing Jr Co.  After the tour of try outs that I went to last yr with my son, I realized that there are ALOT of kids that are really good that have to go the Jr Co route  to get in the D1 schools

[quote name="stevenash" post="1197328" timestamp="1331767043"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=97235.msg1197254#msg1197254 date=1331758837] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=97235.msg1197248#msg1197248 date=1331758003] [quote author=BADSANTA link=topic=97235.msg1197001#msg1197001 date=1331688906] Donahoe was decent but NOT D1 good. He didn't have the skill set of Brown. Saw each play a lot in high school. [/quote].      Decent?  Decent enough to be 3-a player of the year?  Decent enough to be tourney MVP in Austin when he won a 3-a ring?  Tell me what brown had in his skill set that Donahoe didn't because I saw them both play many more games than u did. [/quote] Nash, and  with all those accolades, why is it that those *particular schools* never show up in Sour Lake?      [/quote]. Donahoe declined the offer in the hj gym.  Dove I know how closely attuned u r to local basketball but I am reasonably confident u haven't the foggiest idea of who visits the gym .  Prudhomme was observed by several coaches during the playoffs who made specific trips to watch him [/quote] Steve not taking anything away from Shawn, but If the best player in the area could not get a D1 look last yr I just dont see him getting one this yr. DC beat HJ 3 yrs  and he is at JrCo.

[quote name="MED" post="1185461" timestamp="1330167778"] I think that Knight is fool, not real sure that he knows anything about x & o's??? He sure left a mess where he came from, i mean where he was fired from. This group he has now is more talented then the group he had @ Tech, it all starts with the leader coach!!!! [/quote] Were are you now??? And were is Tech???? He told these men that they were not near as good as THEY thought they were. and Loook were they are now.... Coach Rock kissed their a$$es and look were that got him. Fired, Coach called them out and their in the dance...

[quote name="coopntx" post="1195732" timestamp="1331473605"] The Lamar Cardinals were 15-17 last year. The Cards didn't even qualify for their conference tourney in the last three years.  New coach, conference tourney champs, and now they are in the dance.  Thanks to coach Knight for bringing the program back. Now, a few good recruiting years and we are back in the sweet 16. This is how Lamar's athletics should be.  The program starts with the coaching. [/quote]  Yes and when coach Knight was a TT he was making 1 million a yr and NOW he is making 100,000. How long do you think he is going to stay around????????

[quote name="killingmesmalls" post="1191320" timestamp="1330783261"] [quote author=homeless link=topic=96967.msg1191315#msg1191315 date=1330781337] How can we be expected to ignore the pre-game stupid Tech? [/quote] My guess is that you would have to count that as ONE on the INFAMOUS DUNK-O-METER right?  :o  I don't think it had any outcome on the game itself.  Sounds like turnovers hurt the Hawks.  Good season.  Good luck next year. [/quote] No one need to tell the kid he made a mistake. I know he will think about that for a long time. But lets remember hes a kid. But to say that that did not affect the game is wrong, That was a 4 point swing at the start of the game, plus the kid starts the game with a foul.

[quote name="vp32" post="1191179" timestamp="1330747168"] [quote author=True Blue link=topic=96593.msg1191175#msg1191175 date=1330747079] [quote author=tigerpride81 link=topic=96593.msg1190180#msg1190180 date=1330663410] [quote author=True Blue link=topic=96593.msg1189554#msg1189554 date=1330619700] [quote author=tigerpride81 link=topic=96593.msg1189293#msg1189293 date=1330571752] [quote author=True Blue link=topic=96593.msg1189285#msg1189285 date=1330571421] [quote author=MED link=topic=96593.msg1185461#msg1185461 date=1330167778] I think that Knight is fool, not real sure that he knows anything about x & o's??? He sure left a mess where he came from, i mean where he was fired from. This group he has now is more talented then the group he had @ Tech, it all starts with the leader coach!!!! [/quote] Yea these guys or so great that this is the first time in 4 yrs that Lamar has made the tournament.  They will all play their last game in their life as soon as this yr is over. And they can all go back to the Gettos that the Rock pulled them from under [/quote] That's pretty cynical  :-\ ... perhaps [maybe] that even thought their time with Knight was brief, that some of these seniors take note of what it takes to be a man and be all-in.  That's a better wish than hoping the worst for them or from them. [/quote] Well when their coach That has been around Basketball his entire life, Says that they are the worst that he has ever been around. It pretty much speaks for itself about what kind of players that Rock recruited  [/quote] Isn't that being a bit too literal ... don't you think it's possible that he was trying to motivate them by such extreme statements.  Even if you think that knight thinks his statements are true, I doubt that Coach wants these kids to make bad choices and go back under a rock. [/quote] With this being Knight's first All he needed to say is that These guys belong to the last losing coach. [/quote] Well why don't you go tell him that TB. [/quote]Well If hes like every other coach in SETX I just did ;D ;D ;D