DenisGScott

still thinking there has to be a Cena joins DX thing coming soon, especially if they are bringing back the nwo

surprise...going to disagree on this one too... since I do work as the announcer for Wildcatters hockey and previously have done LU basketball and baseball. I'm not advocating openly cheering on the mic but its always been the home team announcer has a little extra for the "home" team. Thats the way it always has been in every sport football, baseball, basketball. Happens in pros, happens in colleges, happens in HS... I dont advocate it for say little league baseball where there is no true "home" team though. I know at hockey games when we score I get all riled up on the mic, if the opposing team scores it's just another announcement.

I'd love to HS hockey all the way down to bantam/pee wee hockey... they have HS teams in the Metroplex and Houston March 9, 2006 - 2005-2006 National High School Hockey Rankings released (over 1650 teams ranked). RANK TEAM W L T GmPerf Sched Total Last 5 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1,Klein,TX,_________________ 17 0 0, 3.1, 7.1, 10.21, 10.72 2,McKinney,TX,________________________ 10 2 7, 1.0, 8.8, 9.81, 10.32 3,Coppell,TX,_________________________ 11 5 2, 1.1, 8.7, 9.80, 9.21 4,Allen,TX,___________________________ 17 6 0, 1.3, 8.5, 9.76, 7.65 5,Plano West "A",TX,__________________ 13 4 4, 1.0, 8.7, 9.70, 8.54 6,Plano,TX,___________________________ 10 5 3, 0.7, 8.8, 9.46, 8.54 7,Jesuit,TX,__________________________ 11 6 3, 0.4, 9.1, 9.45, 10.45 8,College Park,TX,____________________ 12 3 0, 2.2, 7.1, 9.31, 7.87 9,Cinco Ranch,TX,_____________________ 12 1 2, 2.4, 6.9, 9.29, 8.66 10,Mansfield,TX,_______________________ 9 8 1, 0.4, 8.8, 9.18, 8.24 11,Keller,TX,__________________________ 11 6 1, 0.5, 8.4, 8.85, 8.87 12,Flower Mound,TX,____________________ 8 10 0, 0.1, 8.7, 8.82, 10.00 13,Southlake,TX,_______________________ 8 6 4, 0.3, 8.5, 8.78, 8.79 14,Clear Lake,TX,______________________ 12 3 2, 1.8, 6.9, 8.74, 8.60 15,Marcus,TX,__________________________ 8 9 2, -0.2, 8.6, 8.47, 8.95 16,Clear Brook/Clear Creek,TX,_________ 11 4 1, 1.6, 6.6, 8.25, 8.62 17,Grapevine,TX,_______________________ 6 8 4, -0.2, 8.3, 8.15, 8.78 18,Highland Park,TX,___________________ 4 11 4, -0.9, 8.8, 7.85, 9.18 19,Garland,TX,_________________________ 3 13 3, -1.5, 8.7, 7.18, 6.75 20,Austin,TX,__________________________ 7 8 3, 0.2, 6.9, 7.04, 8.29 21,Arlington Martin,TX,________________ 3 14 1, -1.8, 8.8, 6.96, 7.55 22,Klein Oak,TX,_______________________ 5 7 0, -0.3, 7.0, 6.69, 7.14 23,Colleyville,TX,_____________________ 14 2 2, 1.9, 4.7, 6.66, 6.51 24,Memorial West,TX,___________________ 7 7 1, -0.6, 7.2, 6.63, 7.91 25,Kingwood/Humble,TX,_________________ 5 9 1, -0.7, 7.3, 6.54, 7.23 26,Clements,TX,________________________ 8 5 2, -0.1, 6.7, 6.53, 6.99 27,Cy-Fair,TX,_________________________ 6 7 1, -0.7, 7.0, 6.27, 5.35 28,Cy-Creek,TX,________________________ 5 10 1, -1.1, 7.2, 6.10, 7.27 29,Klein Oak "B",TX,___________________ 0 2 1, -2.0, 8.0, 6.03 30,Frisco,TX,__________________________ 11 5 2, 0.9, 4.8, 5.72, 5.43 31,Elkins/Hightower,TX,________________ 3 11 1, -1.5, 7.2, 5.63, 5.21 32,LD Bell-Euless,TX,__________________ 5 3 4, 0.7, 4.8, 5.42, 6.25 33,Woodlands,TX,_______________________ 3 13 1, -1.9, 7.2, 5.35, 4.52 34,Arlington Wild,TX,__________________ 10 6 2, 0.7, 4.6, 5.31, 4.55 35,Carrollton-FB,TX,___________________ 9 5 4, 0.5, 4.8, 5.28, 2.90 36,Richardson,TX,______________________ 0 17 1, -3.1, 8.4, 5.28, 4.85 37,LD Bell,TX,_________________________ 4 2 0, 0.8, 4.3, 5.13 38,Taylor,TX,__________________________ 3 13 0, -1.4, 6.4, 5.05, 3.84 39,Plano West "B",TX,__________________ 7 11 1, 0.0, 4.9, 4.88, 3.37 40,Plano East,TX,______________________ 9 9 1, -0.2, 5.0, 4.78, 5.53 41,Bishop Lynch,TX,____________________ 6 7 5, -0.2, 4.8, 4.62, 5.55 42,Rockwall,TX,________________________ 8 10 0, -0.4, 4.8, 4.40, 4.28 43,Birdville,TX,_______________________ 6 9 3, -0.3, 4.6, 4.30, 4.52 44,Pearland,TX,________________________ 1 13 1, -2.6, 6.8, 4.19, 4.52 45,Duncanville,TX,_____________________ 4 13 1, -1.3, 4.8, 3.53, 5.55 46,Colony-Lewisville,TX,_______________ 2 15 1, -2.6, 4.8, 2.25, 3.22 even colleges are getting into the act here... I know UT, atm, UNT and many other schools in the state have blossoming hockey programs. Ut opens their season Oct. 20 against atm. But people in this area live in a bubble, they dont want to try anything new or anything that doesnt involve HS football. It's time to pop the bubble and step outside. I understand that for hockey to grow in this area we need additional rinks and space and it costs money. It cant be done just with FP there's no way to balance TWC hockey and HS/junior/bantam/peewee hockey in one arena. But I hate the misconception that hockey is not a "Texas thang" thats total crap, it's an anywhere but Beaumont thing. Other areas in the state smaller than Beaumont have teams and draw 4000-6000 a night. There are HS leagues and little leagues all over the rest of the state. They play in Houston, Dallas, SA, Corpus to name a few. Not everyone is a football player or basketball players or a baseball player. Some run track, cross country, golf, tennis, and I bet some would play hockey. The closed mindedness of this area baffles me.

No, I'm saying simply, "what if?" Yes I was still Horn during the Mackovic suck era. Having lived in this area for 30+ years I've seen this area support teams that win and nothing else. I want LU to bring back football. but if the team is not a winner which and chances are it wont be for a while because it takes time to build a program will the public become disenfranchised with it if it takes more than 3-4 years to start winning?? some schools take even longer. will people still go and support the program if in 5 years after it starts if it's still only going 2-9 or 3-8 every year.?? It's easy to sit here and say yes i'll support them, a lot of us said the same thing when the Oilers were took out of Houston and here we are 4 years later they're not good, and people dont want to go to the games, so that same scenario is a possibility with LU football.

so if the team were loaded with local kids and was not successful would you still support the program thru years of 2-9 seasons?

Baylor @ Colorado BAYLOR ... better than their record Oklahoma State @ Kansas State KSU .... someone has to win Texas vs. Oklahoma TEXAS ... Give 'em hell, give 'em hell OU SUCKS Missouri @ Texas Tech TECH .... Pirates stab the Tigers Texas A&M @ Kansas KANSAS ... went to OT vs. NU Nebraska @ Iowa State NU... doubt it will even be close LSU @ Florida FLA .... My heart says LSU, my brain says they're in Fla Michigan State @ Michigan MICH ... Sparty just lost to FireRonZook.com Tennessee @ Georgia TENN... the rare SEC road win Oregon @ California CAL... seems to found a rhythm

I remember that night with Gio in the box making plans for Crockett Street after the game with the opposing player, that was funny

Week 5 Games Colorado @ Missouri Miss... still not sold on Colo after the UGA game Alabama @ Florida Fla.... not in the swamp Georgia Tech @ Virginia Tech VT.... Bemer ball Oregon @ Arizona State Oregon .... ASU burned me Texas Tech @ Texas A&M Tech .... welcome to real D-I aggy Rice @ Army Army .... beat Baylor and should have beaten aggy Kansas @ Nebraska Neb ... U-G-L-Y USC @ Washington State USC .... another stepping stone Ohio State @ Iowa OSU ... As much as I want the Hawks to do it Kansas State @ Baylor Baylor ... they both suck but take the home team

Not a pretty sight tonight 2 early PP goals by the Avs in the first and Stars never recovered

i wouldnt mind but dont think the wife and my daughter would go for that

Those with Direct TV like me can watch the game on Fox SW channel 643

so will Cena join DX?? that would be sweet

Week 4 Louisville @ Kansas State Louisville.... and it wont be close either Arizona State @ California ArizSt.... Cal will find a way to choke Penn State @ Ohio State OSU... PSU got plastered by ND Alabama @ Arkansas Bama..watch your back with Ark home cookin refs Notre Dame @ Michigan State ND... though I want MSU to win UCLA @ Washington UCLA.... Tyrone Willingham enough said Iowa State @ Texas TEXAS.... another 56-10 type game Oklahoma State @ Houston OSU.getting better UH should have lost to Rice McNeese State @ Toledo TOLEDO...and it wont be close North Dakota State @ Ball State BSU... at least they play D-I

the posts I had made about the subject referred to what teams LU could bring in as non conference opponents, I dont think even with football LU would get an invite to join the WAC. So my concern as far as crowd support then has to turn to who they can bring in here to sell tickets for. I didnt ignore 30,000 at the Baylor game I said I wanted proof in the form of a box score or something from that game because I cant imagine putting 13,000 on the hills when the stadium itself only seats 17,000. I didnt ignore the new stadium issue I said they need to build it next to Vincent Beck put it right there on the highway. A new stadium is needed ... badly... regardless if they play I-A or I-AA. Yes I attended every LU football game from 85- until the programmed was dropped, since I was working sports with KLVI at the time so I was in the booth running stats for Hofferth and Caldwell.

toss out the teams that are conference games they HAVE to go to Ruston, that would be UAB Colorado st Boise st --- conference Hawaii ---- conference UNLV SMU UTEP Utah st --- conference Southern miss. Fresno st ---- conference UCF the 2 best football schools on that list would be SoMiss and Colo St, SoMiss is famous for their Anywhere, Anytime, Anyplace motto used to be stenciled on the field there. And youre still talking about a stadium that SEATS 30,000..Cardinal Stadium seats 17,000

not so sure about that one, I'd want proof on that, I'm sure it was over and above the 17,000 Cardinal Stadium seats but 30??

Thats part of the problem here "if it aint local, I aint supporting it" it shouldnt matter where the players are from whether its LU football, basketball or Wildcatters hockey, there are cities that would love to have what we have and what we have the capabilty of supporting and instead this area throws it away because its not local or for political reasons and that is just plain pathetic. And to a point made in an earlier post... According to an NCAA regulation that became effective in 2005, Division I-A schools must average 15,000 at least once every two years. If a school doesn't, it is deemed to be in non-compliance. Another such strike in a 10-year period would place the school in restricted membership, meaning no bowl bids, and could ultimately result in a lower classification. These are the teams with the worst attendance in Division 1-A football for 2005, according to the NCAA's accumulated attendance report. 10. Ball State 12,953 9. Temple 12,735 8. New Mexico St. 12,557 7. San Jose St. 12,506 6. Utah State 10,896 5. Akron 10,893 4. Rice 10,072 3. Buffalo 8,914 2. Kent State 6,658 1. E. Michigan 5,219 Now remember Cardinal Stadium as is the capacity is I think 17,000, then if you bring back football that means bringing back the band and blocking off seats for them and their equipment which would be right on the edge of being able to average 15,000 per game to eventually keep D-I status.

easier said than done, we have talented basketball coaches at LU and I dont see local players lining up to wear red and white. And another thing I've never understood is the the seeming "if it aint from here, we aint supporting it". Which would you rather have a winning team made up of people from around the country or a below average team made up of nothing but local kids?

as I have said before I'm not anti LU football by any means, I'm all for them bringing it back and want it to succeed all I am saying is those people who think we can build a stadium and they will come are delusional. And to clarify, I said given the choice between $500 on LU season tix or $500 to see a UT/OSU type game I'm choosing the UT game. Now also understand my family lives in Austin so I dont have to pony up for hotel, food etc. I attended neither UT or LU, where I went to college was in Huntsville, Ala where there was also no football team, University of Alabama-Huntsville, our biggest sport was ice hockey, I was a walk on on the basketball team. we'd draw 500 or so for basketball but the hockey team would draw 6000 nightly. But being from Texas I am a football fan, my family is in Austin I grew up a Longhorn. I can appreciate the fact that you dont understand the loyalty there, just like I dont understand why people get so geeked up over high school football. Back to topic, I want football back at LU, I worked the press box there many years back in my radio days then at KLVI. I would love to see football back in any fashion, be it D-I, I-AA whatever, but please just be realistic about your goals. Don't think youre going to re-instate the program hired a high profile coach and suddenly start scheduling big state schools is all I'm getting at. Now I do agree with your statement that LU growth is stunted by not having football but college athletics like it or not is big business, so money does play a big part in it. If you're talking a 25 year plan yes LU could conceivably start the program in I-AA and move up to D-I, there are a lot things that need to fall in place though.

I've said it before I'll say it again football = money, there is no reason a major state school UT, atm, LSU, Ole Miss would come to play in Beaumont. Even if we had football, even if we had a new stadium say it seats 30,000...why would they want to play here when that same game could be played at DKR or atm in front of 85,000 meaning more money revenue for both schools. It's about the almighty dollar. Maybe, you might get a UH, I think Robertson seats 36-40,000 I'm not sure, but the day UT, atm or LSU comes to play here in Beaumont will be the same time when they hold the winter olympics in Beaumont and do downhill skiing along Phelan Blvd. It's not pretending, its fact. All the times UT has played UNT have they ever gone to Denton???? Not that I can remember. And Denton is a suburb of Dallas they could play a game there in DFW at Cotton Bowl or Texas Stadium, and they dont UNT always comes to Austin so why would they want to come play in Beaumont??? Even Jones Stadium in Lubbock seats 55,000. It's about the money plain and simple. Those schools you mentioned have NOTHING to gain by playing here. It's more beneficial to both schools to play that game on the road. If you were athletic director at a big school which would you rather do play on the road, get you easy win and make 300,000 or play the game at home, get your easy win and make 3,000,000. I dont know what ticket prices are at atm, I know what they are at UT, UT is getting $45 a ticket for the game against SHST, let me see now $45 a ticket multiplied by 85,000 seats equals $3,825,000 why on earth would a major school give up that kind of revenue to come play in Beaumont?? Thats why SHST gets $800,000 for showing up in Austin. And thats just ticket sales, that doesnt account for parking nor concessions. the same holds true at atm, LSU, Tenn, Fla and everywhere else. There is no pretending in factual numbers they wouldnt do it.

I've tried to look them up on the net and found nothing, this story i've told before and I was there, back in 87 or 88 when the only 2 HS teams in Bmt were WB and Central and the Bmt Bowl was always the last game of the year in fact they used to televise the game live on KFDM. LU did a promotion for football anyone with a ticket stub from the Bmt Bowl Friday night got in free to the LU game on Sat afternoon well attendance for the Bmt Bowl was close to 20,000 and LU attendance the next afternoon not even 1000. If you leave the stadium where it is, it needs MAJOR renovations, honestly they just need a new one, why not play as a I-A independent, where they could play a schedule of 3 road games against big powerhouse schools to fund the program, still play against the teams like Ark St, La-Laf, La-Monroe, LaTech, Rice, maybe UH, and then throw in McNeese and 1 other I-AA team.

I agree no big schools would come here to play even if LU played football and even if they were I-A, the only reason UT plays Rice in Houston anymore since it is non conference is because of the huge UT alumni base in Houston. But the answer is still I-A, where they could in theory qualify for a small bowl game.

my point being if I'm going to drop 500 I'd rather drop 500 and go to a Longhorn game whoever the big non conference game is or the atm game, tailgate all day as opposed to seeing a full season of SFA, McNeese, SHST, Texas State

sorry family of 6 here with wife and 4 kids not shelling out $500 for season tix to see West Va Tech and Central Arkansas State. If I'm popping out 500 bones I better get a D-I team in there, and I dont mean Temple.