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So we both agree that there will be two offensive MVPs and one defensive MVP. Just blows my mind. Next thing you know they will want to give the AL MVP to David Ortiz even though all he does is hit.

why is it people say turner is the best defender, but robinson and benard can shoot, drive to the basket and handle the ball. Defense is more than one generalization of the game. Turner by far is the X factor for the hawks. Leading the press, blocking shots, and rebounding are his strong defensive suits. I'm sure some will say that he gets in foul trouble in some games, but who wouldn't when you play this way. Against Liberty foul trouble in first half 1pt lead, in second half blow out and he played the whole game. By the way does anyone have the PPG avg for Sisbee and Hardin Jefferson.

I would say shannon is a more polished scorer than turner. Im just say everyone says bernard over turner (hj fans) because he is a senior and I respect that. I do think to date turner has played better all around basketball.

You won district or you are district CO- champs? I never said Robinson wasn't good but all anyone ever talks about is how many points he scores. You nave a much more valid point when you talk about a persons total package and not just one aspect of the game. I was not trying to come that he wasn't a good defender but all anyone ever talks about is how many points he scores. I have only seen him play a hand full of games and I was using Turner defense plus his ability to finish to voice my opinion. I agree with you that Shannon is a more natural scorer than Turner but I was just saying I thought he was HJ's best player this year.

why does everyone look at points alone to determine MVP. When Jordan was winning MVP's he had the highest ppg avg but he was also a great defender. Thats why I say Turner is the MVP. Even when he isnt the top scorer or is just having a bad night shooting (it happens to everyone now and then) he still impacts the game with his defensive pressure. MVP's in high schools should not be like allstar voting in the pros (well he made it last year so lets give it to him this year). The District MVP should be determined by who is playing the best basketball and not who scores the most PPG. Its just my opinion but I dont think Robinson of Silsbee is not a great defender; BUT I would take him on my team any day.

I can see why you would say robinson he has had a great year and the couple of games Ive seen. In my opinion Bernard is not having the same kind of year he had last year. I don't think by saying Turner will have his time next year is a valid statement. MVP should be given to the Most Valueable Player and to me this year for HJ Turner has stepped up to the challenge. Overall Turner is playing better basketball for HJ.

Has anyone considered Turner from HJ as possible district MVP. I have seen him mentioned as defensive MVP, but after watching several games he seems to set the tone. I know some will say defenses focus more on Bernard or Turner is the third option so defenses dont focus on him as much. I will say the first HJ loss to silsbee had more to do with Turner in foul trouble than bernard a bad night. Against WOS Turner was a beast. I think HJ could not have done all this with out any of the three but it was just my thought.

After watching many HJ games and watching the games at state I would say that HJ would have had a tough time with Kennedale because of the size they have. Granted HJ could have equaled that with pressure D saying that they are lucky doesnt seem like a smart comment. i understand you are just backing your team but both teams in the finals where good teams.

What about Kenyon Spears from Hardin Jefferson class of 96. Three time all state ranked number one team in 3A , oh and he played with that honorable mention Jason Troupe before he went to LCM. Played at LU and was Chevrolet Player of the Game against some team named the DUKE BLUE DEVILS. ( and he led all with 19 points.