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Turnovers had nothing to do with this game navasota was just the better team with the better coaches

WOS always choke in this situations dating back to when Beasley played...I blame alot of this on head coach/DC he's too stubborn to stop running man to man against this team WOS have been running the same simple offense & defense since forever gotta switch it up when you get this far in the playoffs smh... but WOS offense is not good enough to beat this school I've always been a believer that a team is only as good as its QB and you'll only go as far as your QB takes you...and to the WOS fans I wanna ask do you guys considered this a choke? Because I do

Don't say I didn't call this blowout...in football you can only go so far with a good defense

[quote name="the-riot07" post="1350125" timestamp="1354776275"] As a ozen fan I would shut up since your football team absolutely sucked!!!!'n your opinion does not matter at all! With the beat defense in the statesome people still wouldn't give props to a terrible team like ozen! [/quote]You mad bro?

Sorry WOS fans but I'm predicting a blowout as well but I must admit stangs defense is nastyyyyyy

??? ??? ??? ??? WOWWWWW!!!!!!

Ozen lost to WB again? SMHHHHHHH

[quote name="Titletown2" post="1348930" timestamp="1354639981"] ozensfinest, going by your definition of chokers, Ozen's basketball team have been chokers since Boutte left. When y'all play the "big boys" in basktball you've been the one's choking. Y'all haven't done a thing in your school's sport since Boutte left. By the way, who just won the YMBL tourney? Not OZEN! Why? You Choked!! [/quote]And with this post i agree

[quote name="Majestyk" post="1348555" timestamp="1354580400"] Why don't you take your jealous butt somewhere else then. [/quote]What am I jealous of? WOS is a great program and produce a lot of great players but my only knock on their program is that they can't compete with the big dogs in 3A I'm definitely not jealous gotta lot of good friends from WOS but I'm just stating the facts

[quote name="griff" post="1348513" timestamp="1354575573"] [quote author=ozensfinest link=topic=106919.msg1348450#msg1348450 date=1354569596] [quote author=griff link=topic=106919.msg1348164#msg1348164 date=1354541376] [quote author=ozensfinest link=topic=106919.msg1348089#msg1348089 date=1354508795] [quote author=kicker link=topic=106919.msg1347770#msg1347770 date=1354486142] Well...I guess i would rather choke consitently going 3-5 rounds deep vs not making the playoffs every year. Or heck, even having a winning record. [/quote]Yeah i guess so, I'm just stating the obvious though this weekend will be a prime example of what I'm saying. [/quote] When you consistently win your district and go a few rounds deep in the playoffs, the word "choke" does not apply.  Also, not winning state every year does not qualify as "choke".  Pick a better word.  Now, two years ago when we lost in to an inferior Brookshire Royal team, that was a choke.  The Mustangs choking in the playoffs has been rare.  We've regularly finished as a top 5-10 team in the state since being a 3A team.  That's called "accomplished", not "choke." [/quote]So what you call y'all losing to that in 05' Beasley's senior yr? And if navasota get an easy win against y'all this weekend what will you call that? Your basically saying its ok to lose as long as you go three rounds deep in the playoffs every yr all that shows is that you can't compete with the best in the state...but like I said we shall see this weekend i hope you remember this thread cause I'll be sure to remind you of our convo Friday night [/quote] You don't read with comprehension, do you?  I was trying to help you understand that using the word "choke" is not accurate in describing our many consecutive years of winning district and making a 3-4 round playoff run.  You see...not winning a state title every year is not a choke.  If that's the standard you want to use, then 1) you need to consult a dictionary and 2) Ozen has been a "choke" team in basketball because they don't win the trophy every season.  As for the '05 season with Beasley at QB...the reason we lost is because Wimberley was the better team.  That's all there is to it.  There's no shame in admitting a team is better than yours when they are...and that, too, does not qualify as a "choke".  Wimberley was the best team in the state that year, and congratulations to them.  If Navasota wins "easily" (as you've described), then it will be noted that they were simply the better team.  Being ONE OF the best teams is still something to be proud of.  Get some perspective on this, please. [/quote]So what do you consider a choke? Plz explain so if WOS falls anything short of a state title this yr what would you consider that? Because in Ozen bball anything short of a state title is a down year for us

Rather see them lose early than late...

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1348535" timestamp="1354578739"] [quote author=ozensfinest link=topic=106883.msg1348441#msg1348441 date=1354568862] Stop bring up when perk played...I'm not even speaking on that team look at the success the 07 team had 08...you have to posed the question why isn't ozen winning like they were in the past...Do you guys honestly think Nederland would be winning district if boutte was still at ozen honestly? That's all I'm saying Boutte set a standard for ozen basketball program and if that standard can't be kept or improved then there needs to be another guy coaching point blank...the talent has been evenly distributed is BS to me ozen still has the best basketball players in the area point losing to Nederland WB Central etc is not acceptable and being an ozen alum I know they deserve better [/quote] Most of the reason that "the standard was set" was the basketball material that was enrolled in the school at that time.  As for not losing to Central until recently, that is likely only because Ozen hasnt been in existence very long.  If Boutte was, as you like to infer, the sole reason for the success of Ozen, he would be in the NCAA and/or NBA by now. [/quote]If i recall Lamar offered him the job several times but he turned it down and seriously doubt Boutte wouldve lost to central...but no matter what I know saveat isn't the guy for the job i guess you guys aren't seeing the same things I'm seeing...let me ask you guys a question answer it truthfully do you guys think Ozen is a state championship caliber? Even the favorite to win their WEAK 20-4A district...and BTW when is the last time Ozen wasn't ranked in the top 25 in the state? Mind you all these things are happening under saveats reign....IMO these are all signs that he's not the man for the job....I have nothing against saveat he's a very nice guy just not the guy who she be coaching at ozen IMO 

[quote name="Yeoj" post="1348521" timestamp="1354576350"] [quote author=ozensfinest link=topic=106883.msg1348140#msg1348140 date=1354526095] [quote author=Yeoj link=topic=106883.msg1348125#msg1348125 date=1354511932] [quote author=ozensfinest link=topic=106883.msg1348087#msg1348087 date=1354508599] [quote author=BmtTopFlight2017 link=topic=106883.msg1347754#msg1347754 date=1354483606] Noooo what's DUMB is u using winning district titles as a measuring stick for being successful as a coach..now that's hilarious....and on top of that saying he's not on Bouttes level as a head coach....maybe not but who cares...so I guess Coach Saveat is not successful because he hasn't won a district title but he's gone the furthest in the PLAYOFFS out of all the schools...u have a lot to learn my friend..told u I TALK FACTS...NOT FICTION...and u act as If Nederland,Central, which btw are the only schools who could actually compete for a district title are pushovers....hmmm my fellow SETX ppl let is Larry Brown a good coach yes...is Roy Williams a good coach yes...the only difference is their approach to the game...your a supporter of Ozen right sounds to me when they lose your the first to say I told u so...when we head to state don't bother packin your bags we don't want fair weather fans riding on the bus..... [/quote]Ok lets talk fact...the first time Ozen has ever lost to central is when Saveat took over correct? The first time ozen hasn't won the district title since its been open(maybe besides once or twice) was under Savaet correct? We can talk facts all day its proven that the program has gone down since being under savaet thats facts...and I thought thats what coaches were judged by their success [/quote] You do realize Ozen doesn't have a 6'10" NBA player on its team anymore don't you? Ozen has a good team, but they are not overloaded with talent like they use to be in the Boutte era. [/quote]You do realize they didn't have anyone 6'10 on the 07' team that went to state either huh? [/quote] No, but they had 6'7" Chris Richard who went on to play at Tulane and some professional basketball over seas. [/quote]Kris Richards was only 6'4 and had a team full of sophomores breon johnson willie jefferson etc

[quote name="griff" post="1348164" timestamp="1354541376"] [quote author=ozensfinest link=topic=106919.msg1348089#msg1348089 date=1354508795] [quote author=kicker link=topic=106919.msg1347770#msg1347770 date=1354486142] Well...I guess i would rather choke consitently going 3-5 rounds deep vs not making the playoffs every year. Or heck, even having a winning record. [/quote]Yeah i guess so, I'm just stating the obvious though this weekend will be a prime example of what I'm saying. [/quote] When you consistently win your district and go a few rounds deep in the playoffs, the word "choke" does not apply.  Also, not winning state every year does not qualify as "choke".  Pick a better word.  Now, two years ago when we lost in to an inferior Brookshire Royal team, that was a choke.  The Mustangs choking in the playoffs has been rare.  We've regularly finished as a top 5-10 team in the state since being a 3A team.  That's called "accomplished", not "choke." [/quote]So what you call y'all losing to that in 05' Beasley's senior yr? And if navasota get an easy win against y'all this weekend what will you call that? Your basically saying its ok to lose as long as you go three rounds deep in the playoffs every yr all that shows is that you can't compete with the best in the state...but like I said we shall see this weekend i hope you remember this thread cause I'll be sure to remind you of our convo Friday night

[quote name="jkbtjc53" post="1348227" timestamp="1354548979"] How many times has Ozen won state or been since Perkins left? ?? Ozen has been a shadow of themselves since he left [/quote]07'

Stop bring up when perk played...I'm not even speaking on that team look at the success the 07 team had 08...you have to posed the question why isn't ozen winning like they were in the past...Do you guys honestly think Nederland would be winning district if boutte was still at ozen honestly? That's all I'm saying Boutte set a standard for ozen basketball program and if that standard can't be kept or improved then there needs to be another guy coaching point blank...the talent has been evenly distributed is BS to me ozen still has the best basketball players in the area point losing to Nederland WB Central etc is not acceptable and being an ozen alum I know they deserve better

[quote name="Yeoj" post="1348125" timestamp="1354511932"] [quote author=ozensfinest link=topic=106883.msg1348087#msg1348087 date=1354508599] [quote author=BmtTopFlight2017 link=topic=106883.msg1347754#msg1347754 date=1354483606] Noooo what's DUMB is u using winning district titles as a measuring stick for being successful as a coach..now that's hilarious....and on top of that saying he's not on Bouttes level as a head coach....maybe not but who cares...so I guess Coach Saveat is not successful because he hasn't won a district title but he's gone the furthest in the PLAYOFFS out of all the schools...u have a lot to learn my friend..told u I TALK FACTS...NOT FICTION...and u act as If Nederland,Central, which btw are the only schools who could actually compete for a district title are pushovers....hmmm my fellow SETX ppl let is Larry Brown a good coach yes...is Roy Williams a good coach yes...the only difference is their approach to the game...your a supporter of Ozen right sounds to me when they lose your the first to say I told u so...when we head to state don't bother packin your bags we don't want fair weather fans riding on the bus..... [/quote]Ok lets talk fact...the first time Ozen has ever lost to central is when Saveat took over correct? The first time ozen hasn't won the district title since its been open(maybe besides once or twice) was under Savaet correct? We can talk facts all day its proven that the program has gone down since being under savaet thats facts...and I thought thats what coaches were judged by their success [/quote] You do realize Ozen doesn't have a 6'10" NBA player on its team anymore don't you? Ozen has a good team, but they are not overloaded with talent like they use to be in the Boutte era. [/quote]You do realize they didn't have anyone 6'10 on the 07' team that went to state either huh?

[quote name="BmtTopFlight2017" post="1348134" timestamp="1354517312"] Ummm OzensFinest I'm sure every team has goals of winning state so your making no sense which means your talkin nonsense....you keep saying they lost to Central and Nederland which by the way is your only basis...like they couldn't have lost to those teams if Boutte coached them..Correct me if im wrong but Boutte lost to a lot teams who were suppose to be cakewalks so they weren't invincible during his era..if my memory serves me correctly the same man your straddling the back of lost I believe 3 state championships ...wow guess that makes him a bad coach huh....nope still a great coach can't take away from what he's done.....and if memory serves me correct they beat Nederland to go to the reg semis WHEN IT COUNTED..so u have no arguement.....the Jones game well when you have a one point lead,in the bonus and your so called best player decides to jack an ill advised three with 1min and change left then you lose..but that wasnt Saveat fault ask then player and he'll tell you himself...Furthermore u do realize the talent has been evenly distributed amongst the high schools now..Central and West Brook were getting maybe 2 good players per school while Ozen got the bulk of talent well times have changed...Ozen had ppl who could play but didnt even see the court because of the abundance of talent...kids want to play which is why they transfer from memorial to go to PNG and NEDERLAND....and from Ozen to Central and West Brook..told u bro I talk facts now stay off the fiction...So if not winning district and going deeper in the playoffs than the team that beats u in district is taking the program down then I guess I have the IQ of a grape...ramble on about how the program has gone down nobody is listening and if that's the case why don't u restore them to the glory days...better yet why don't u add something positive like helping instead of criticizing behind your iPad...because ppl like u wanna see ppl fail so u can push your agenda of saying they need a coaching change...just a note to u tho...I dont agree with some things about how things go at my sons school did I say fire the coach...nope ...I went to the practices and asked the coach what could I do to help...because I want all of the kids to succeed...maybe u should do the same OZENSFINEST...Be positive instead of negative my fellow Ozen supporter.. [/quote]This whole comment is just proving my point why you think all the good players are going else where to play ball? Because Ozen isn't the power house school it used to be...theres an old saying you build a program and they'll come and this is a prime example of why they're not coming...stop making excuses for savaet his player jacking a three in that situation just shows he has no control of his team like i said when you've played at ozen you'd understand where I'm coming from

[quote name="kicker" post="1347770" timestamp="1354486142"] Well...I guess i would rather choke consitently going 3-5 rounds deep vs not making the playoffs every year. Or heck, even having a winning record. [/quote]Yeah i guess so, I'm just stating the obvious though this weekend will be a prime example of what I'm saying.

[quote name="BmtTopFlight2017" post="1347754" timestamp="1354483606"] Noooo what's DUMB is u using winning district titles as a measuring stick for being successful as a coach..now that's hilarious....and on top of that saying he's not on Bouttes level as a head coach....maybe not but who cares...so I guess Coach Saveat is not successful because he hasn't won a district title but he's gone the furthest in the PLAYOFFS out of all the schools...u have a lot to learn my friend..told u I TALK FACTS...NOT FICTION...and u act as If Nederland,Central, which btw are the only schools who could actually compete for a district title are pushovers....hmmm my fellow SETX ppl let is Larry Brown a good coach yes...is Roy Williams a good coach yes...the only difference is their approach to the game...your a supporter of Ozen right sounds to me when they lose your the first to say I told u so...when we head to state don't bother packin your bags we don't want fair weather fans riding on the bus..... [/quote]Ok lets talk fact...the first time Ozen has ever lost to central is when Saveat took over correct? The first time ozen hasn't won the district title since its been open(maybe besides once or twice) was under Savaet correct? We can talk facts all day its proven that the program has gone down since being under savaet thats facts...and I thought thats what coaches were judged by their success

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1347757" timestamp="1354484375"] [quote author=ozensfinest link=topic=106883.msg1347745#msg1347745 date=1354482519] [quote author=BmtTopFlight2017 link=topic=106883.msg1347733#msg1347733 date=1354481043] Someone told me not to entertain stupidity..but I'm not soft spoken..OZENSFINEST you sound bitter for one...maybe because your basketball career didn't go as planned...or who knows...but that's a big problem I have with people like u..who go around broadcasting someone be fired..you may not like him as a coach or even a person that's your prerogative, but to say he deserves to have his livelihood taken in pure asinine..even tho people don't agree with Centrals coach and how he runs his program guess what he's winning.. Same thing can be said for Coach Simon at West Brook...your talkin about Boutte as he if was GOD OF BASKETBALL and whomever doesn't coach his style is doomed for failure..typical Willie Lynch here...ok you played your time is OVER let it go...you don't agree with what he does fine...but the BAFOONERY has to stop at some point..yeah I'm voicing my opinion...and it's your right not like it...but it irks me when u can sit there say behind your computer screen or even in a public setting the things your saying..let me ask u this..u only seemed to be concerned with wining district ..lol..but not winning a state championship...cause if that was true you wouldn't be worried about simple things like that...I'm AROUND the program EVERYDAY so I see first hand what gets done..is everything perfect no and nothing will ever be..but as long as u and the other so called supporters of Ozen keep tryna divide and conquer they will never succeed..i have yet to see all the HATERS show their face and when they do come around none of this suff gets said to anyone's face..always hiding and whispering...man up then and say it with ya chest..lol...didnt think so...and I don't want you to take this as a challenge to a duel or something...I talk facts not fiction...ask any kid playing var and they'll u the same thing..Their focus is on a state championship not winning district ...and yes u can do that without winning district..but hey who am I to question tradition right.... [/quote]Now you sound real dumb...I'm not bitter about anything I just know a good coach when I see one and saveat isn't one of em...Everyone on this board knows that I'm a avid supporter of Ozen win or lose but Saveat is not the guy for the job IMO...However when I made the statement about winning district I was using that as a reference to his success at Ozen. Question do you honestly think that if Ozen can't win the weak 20-4A district that they can win state? And this is to soulja I've made any Bouttee/Saveat comparison because their isn't any we all know who was the better coach I'm only speaking on the success of Saveat's coaching career not even a district title in 4 years? SMH [/quote]Would you care to share on Ozen's successful playoff run last year dispute losing to Central there times, Nederland once and failing to capture the district title? [/quote]Anything short of a state title at ozen is unsuccessful but who did ozen play on their road to regionals? Nederland? RIGHTTTTTTTT Ozen is supposed to beat teams like that I'm not impressed by that what happened when they played a solid jones team? They lost

[quote name="BmtTopFlight2017" post="1347742" timestamp="1354482256"] SMH!!!!!!!! Boyd plays on the freshman team at Ozen as of now...he was playing football ... [/quote]Like i said I could've been wrong

[quote name="BmtTopFlight2017" post="1347733" timestamp="1354481043"] Someone told me not to entertain stupidity..but I'm not soft spoken..OZENSFINEST you sound bitter for one...maybe because your basketball career didn't go as planned...or who knows...but that's a big problem I have with people like u..who go around broadcasting someone be fired..you may not like him as a coach or even a person that's your prerogative, but to say he deserves to have his livelihood taken in pure asinine..even tho people don't agree with Centrals coach and how he runs his program guess what he's winning.. Same thing can be said for Coach Simon at West Brook...your talkin about Boutte as he if was GOD OF BASKETBALL and whomever doesn't coach his style is doomed for failure..typical Willie Lynch here...ok you played your time is OVER let it go...you don't agree with what he does fine...but the BAFOONERY has to stop at some point..yeah I'm voicing my opinion...and it's your right not like it...but it irks me when u can sit there say behind your computer screen or even in a public setting the things your saying..let me ask u this..u only seemed to be concerned with wining district ..lol..but not winning a state championship...cause if that was true you wouldn't be worried about simple things like that...I'm AROUND the program EVERYDAY so I see first hand what gets done..is everything perfect no and nothing will ever be..but as long as u and the other so called supporters of Ozen keep tryna divide and conquer they will never succeed..i have yet to see all the HATERS show their face and when they do come around none of this suff gets said to anyone's face..always hiding and whispering...man up then and say it with ya chest..lol...didnt think so...and I don't want you to take this as a challenge to a duel or something...I talk facts not fiction...ask any kid playing var and they'll u the same thing..Their focus is on a state championship not winning district ...and yes u can do that without winning district..but hey who am I to question tradition right.... [/quote]Now you sound real dumb...I'm not bitter about anything I just know a good coach when I see one and saveat isn't one of em...Everyone on this board knows that I'm a avid supporter of Ozen win or lose but Saveat is not the guy for the job IMO...However when I made the statement about winning district I was using that as a reference to his success at Ozen. Question do you honestly think that if Ozen can't win the weak 20-4A district that they can win state? And this is to soulja I've made any Bouttee/Saveat comparison because their isn't any we all know who was the better coach I'm only speaking on the success of Saveat's coaching career not even a district title in 4 years? SMH

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1347705" timestamp="1354478637"] [quote author=ozensfinest link=topic=106883.msg1347697#msg1347697 date=1354477965] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=106883.msg1346135#msg1346135 date=1354335136] [quote author=ozensfinest link=topic=106883.msg1346081#msg1346081 date=1354334196] OMG how in the heck Ozen lose to WB please remove Savaet of his duties smh [/quote] um, West Brook is actually good this year...and besides, Ozen have already beaten West Brook this year, so it was a return of favor, so to speak.    I don't think that's grounds for fireing the coach... [/quote]I understand where you coming from soulja but back when I played for Ozen it wasn't a such thing as even having close games with teams in the area come on man saveat needs to be removed I played for him I know the guy can't coach a lick and the only reason he still has this job is because he is kin to the athletic director of BISD(RODNEY SAVEAT) [/quote] I know what you're saying, , but you have to keep in mind that Seveat is NOT Boutte.  Not By a long shot. Also, Ozen isn't getting ALL of Beaumont's talents anymore.  It's a change in the times, man.  The talent is evenly distributed now.  Green and Zeno at West Brook and the young guns at Central.  Now to think about it, where is y'all's young gun, Boyd? [/quote]I believe he's still in middle school I could be wrong though

WOW I see it wasn't a good weekend for ozen basketball smh