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Good luck Mike from you pals at the Fire Station

Yeah that little guy can hit....here's proof....better watch out Nederland

Hey ...those stinkin tank farms feed my family .....now they may all have 3 nipples but still....it feeds em. Can't change the obvious...Daytons stadium seats nobody....it's small......whatever big deal.....maybe you guys keep the turf mowed daily....whatever...its still small and if ya want to be in PNG's district ( because 22-4a IS OUR District win or lose) ya better build stands bigger than playland at McDonalds. PNG 75 Dayton 0.5

Their ya go Mike....jump on the band wagon......seriously...should be a good game huh??? Hopefully.

PNG tramples Dayton 75-3 and claim ditrict title. Jacob Hemming's also announced his plans to run for President of the United States of America. Hemmings for President

Hahahaha that is so funny ....i love games like this....makes it fun to talk with the other team all week like this. PNG 75 Dayton 2

Exactly what Im talking about....this is worse than the Lumberton fans I think.....most posters on Daytons side just have this "better than you" attitude....hey and thanks for the english lesson....I'll try to never make another typo in my life. Some of it is understandable...I mean who doesnt want to believe their team is really really good.....just like I believe PNG is gonna blow Dayton off the ball with no problems and win big....i guess it goes both ways huh.....so actually whatever....no problem with the post there...it's all in good clean fun anyhow......just remember...tommorow night...whenever Hemmings runs over one of your linebackers and it makes you cring back in your seat and say to yourself." Oh My God"...think of me typing " I TOLD YOU SO" hahahahahaha PNG 75 Dayton 3

Ive read through this board and Im laughing..... if you'd have known anything about Dayton in your life...you'd think they have gone undefeated for like the last 20 years. It makes em out to sound like it is ridiculous to think that PNG has a chance to actually even score a touchdown. Thats ignorant....if im not mistaken hasnt Dayton been beatin like 3 times this year ? Sounds to me like maybe they arent so bulletproof after all. I love the hype though and it's all due to the poor showing from nederland last week. Something aboout spanking Big Ned in the fasion they did also has everyone thinking Dayton is the super power in the state. Dave Campbells new ranking have PNG at 19 Dayton at 16. Sounds like a good matchup to me. Im sure even those rankings are padded due to the nederland fiasco. I will go on the record by saying this... THE 63-0 BEATING DOWN OF NEDERLAND WAS MORE ABOUT NEDERLAND LAYING DOWN AND BEING A POOR TEAM THAN IT WAS ABOUT DAYTON BEING SO AWESOME. Now...not to offend my Nederland friends....but nederlland has had their issues all season and have some things to work out. Dayton fans don't but into the hype. This will not be a repeat from last week. Im pretty sure if the Dayton fans are at this type of mental state im almost gauranteeing the team thinks they just pretty much need to show up. Gonna be a good game . Remember Dayton is not made of steel and they have already been beatin 3 times this year....Im pretty sure PNG matches up with them well...hopefully I can come back saturday morning and see all the crow eating begin.

From what Im hearing it is a very weak playoff draw this year all around the state. Dayton and PNG should have a good chance to go fairly deep and compete for all of it possibly.....we'll have to see i guess. Im expecting PNG to atleast make a quarter final appearance.

AMEN...Ive heard enough about Daytons defense plays at a semi pro level...whatever...bring it....those stats you just posted explain everything i need to know....yeah they shut nederland out but big deal....you cant compair apples to oranges. PNG's run offense is brutal and there is only one way to stop it....you can call any play you like ...rush anyone ya want...but bottom line to stop this style of power football there is only one way to do it....you better be a bigger badder man than they are.....HEMMINGS FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Different Take on PNG Jeff "The Jet" Bergeron Charlie Wallace Dustin Long Ron McGill Ted Brach Garrett Achord Jacob Hemmings (yardage no...but for a power runner...one of the best PNG has had) Keith Wagespauk Chris Gohlke David Whitehead Really you could go on and on...the running backs and hard hitters are the ones that make these list....offesive lineman, cornerbacks, etc can have played their positions better than some of these guys on the list but didnt do it in a prime time position....we've had several really good ones who don't get alot of glory but could easily be on this list.

I agree its gonna be a good game...HOWEVER.....Dayton plays with 3 down lineman......and small down lineman at that.If im not mistaken the smallest player on our o-line is bigger than any of their 3. Hemmings should have a field day unless like i said before Daytons linebackers pack a lunch and decide step up and even if they do then do they have the ability to physically stop a brute like Hemmings??? Daytons defensive scheme plays right into PNG's hands....it's weakest against the power running game which is what we do best. If Dayton's offense is not on the field it's gonna be tough to score points. Our defense needs to step up when they have the opportunities and get some 3 and outs and we'll be fine.

I havent seen Dayton play this year with my own eyes so I can't really speak for them. I have seen PNG play several games so I can only go by what I see from PNG. I'll break it down like this.....these are two upper class teams playing like a few of the top teams within the state right now. Games like this could go either way. Dayton is a good team no doubt....PNG is also and it's hard to find flaws in either team right now. Usually in games of this magnitude it all comes down to how well coached and how well prepaired either team is and how bad the teams want it. We are talking about two teams good enough to beat anyone in the state on any given friday night. Heck even the Houston Texans beat the Colts from time to time. My main point is...you play this matchup 10 times during the season I think you'd have ten totally different games with close games, blow outs with different winners. It's gonna all depend on which team shows up ready to rumble. It's gonna depend alot on coaching...play calling...execution etc. With that said.... PNG is well coached as is Dayton....both teams have a really good running games. PNG has an excellent defensive front and the corners, linebackers and end play extremely well against the outside run. The defensive secondary from PNG is gonna need to have a big big game and step it up a little bit. We are good on turnovers from our secondary and the deep ball but at times are suspect when it comes to the short passing game but usually tend to settle down and stop short stuff by the second half. PNG's running attack is a brutal power game with Hemmings which is offset nicely with Wright around the corners from time to time for a change of pace. The recieving core and quarterback is right were we want them and as looked better and better every game especially since the nederland game. They look to be on the same page. It's gonna be extremely difficult to totaly shut Hemmings and PNG's running game down. They may not run for 60 yard td's much but that 4-5 yards a pop will kill a defense and wear them down. It's gonna take some heck of a game to totaly shut it down. Same goes for Dayton...gonna take a good team to shut them down apparently. Its gonna take an extremly good personal outting by one of Daytons linebackers to totaly shut Hemmings up and to do so he better bring a lunch. I say if PNG is able to run effectivly like they have on everyone else and control the ball which opens up 2-3 big pass plays down the field throughout the game they win. Flip flop that and same thing goes for Dayton......it all comes down to who can control the ball and dominate time of pos. this game. Time of Pos. and positive turnovers decides the outcome. Gonna be a defensive night....whoevers defense can basically keep the other offense off of the field will win. PNG's secondary willl determine PNG's Fate...they need atleast 2 turnovers. Daytons ability to stop the running game and sit back in coverage will determine their fate. If PNG is able to run effectively enough to open up their passing game it will be bad for dayton. Last but not least..... PNG's offensive coordinator will be put to the test.....sometimes when things start out rough on the offensive side of the ball he gets caught in the old bubble of run,run,run, punt or run,run,pass,punt or starts running hemming up the middle on 3rd and 8....that will not cut it this weekend. He will have to be creative enough to help get the offense jump started if they they face trouble early and not be satisfied with running the same running plays over and over even if they arent effective early. If the runs not working he better be able to exploit something else to force them to back off enough to get the run game going. Gonna be a good game. PNG I know will be up to the task mentally and ready to play. Gotta go with my boys here and PNG of coarse.... I think PNG 21 Dayton 17 You can say anything you want about Dayton doesnt give up points and PNG's defense is tough but good teams score points regardless of who they play....this will not be a 14-7 or 10-7 game...both teams will approach 20 points and the winner will be whoever can go over 20. PNG's style of offense is not easily stopped....you will not stop it just by having better skills players..it's not like shutting down a really good passing team....the only way to shut PNG's running game down is to man up and and be a bigger man in the holes....someone will have to buckle up and say im tougher and stronger than this guy and fight for it all night. Cant wait gonna be a good game. PNG 21 Dayton 17

Lots of memories..... Running around under the stands with my friends as a kid. Watching alot of good football games and some not so good games over the years. Several homecomings with a few different high school flames....walking out for the first time friday night under the lights. Watching Butch Troy on friday mornings just before lunch walk around underneath the stands looking for loose change for good luck. Hearing Cherokee echo through the night air from both the field and the stands. Seeing a couple of good Indian Spirits stick the spear in the ground during the marching I and dance around it. Seeing the BONZAI signs held up hi on every kickoff. This past few weeks seeing things again from the stands, much older, and seeing that some things never change at PN-G...traditions will go on....the Indianettes will do the same dance my sister did in 1985 when cherokee is played, The Indian Spirit does the same dance every Indian Spirit ive ever seen has done....the football team plays with just as much heart and determination as every other team thats put on the purple and stepped on the field....some with better talent than others but still proud to wear the purple. The ever watchful presence of GERONIMO standing at about the 50 yard line looking back at the crowd as we cheer on our team. The sound of Tip Durhams voice. The moment when you realize they are playing the long version of Cherokee and not the short version. May the new stadium bring us many many more years of enjoying all of these things.....and many many more INDIAN victories.

Lumbertons main back had 57 yards rushing according to the paper...what did their other runners have? I know their passing game to the back in the flats was working pretty good. Anyone know??

PN_G's Hemmings ran all over Lumberton well....i should say flat over Lumberton. I'd be suprised If Lumberton ran for more than 75 yards. It was more of a PNG dominated game minus the ridiculas penaltys that plagued PNG. Lumberton was forced to rely on a passing game which worked pretty well. Lumberton was outmatched but there hearts kept them in the game. The have a small but extremly agressive and fast defense with alot of heart. Lumbertons kids never backed down and payed the price for meeting Hemmings head up several times instead of taking him low. Poor number 6 on Lumbertons team took a beating tonight ...but gotta give credit where credit is due...he has heart and he flew to the football. Im not sure he knew where he was when he met Hemmings at the goal line head to head, but he left it all on the field. Lumberton showed alot of heart and actually they are a well coached team. Still....PN-G WAS flat this game...many penaltys....flat secondary play....but still with size and strength held the Raiders off using mere brute force hard nosed football. GREAT GAME.....Lumberton....I love the enthusiasm and spirit of your players and fans and keep your heads up...I have a feeling with the way everyone is moving to Lumberton...your gonna have many many succesful seasons to come. Im pretty confident Lumberton will make the playoffs this year and possible go to the second or third round. PN-G tonight...just a lil to much to handle physically and most teams are finding out the same thing this year. PNg is a very powerful team north and south this season...gonna be fun to watch what they do in the post season. GREAT GAME Scalp Em Indians

Mike you can always come sit with me and my family on the PNG side. Hope to see you there...Im sure it will be worth it..should be a good game.

L Train???? More like Thomas the Train.....Like I said in another post...I hate to break it to you but your 6-0 hoopla is all based on hogwash. Your all fired up because your "L"ooser Train as ran up big stats playing a bunch of good for nothing teams....half the teams yall have played are 1-5 and the best record of any is a even 3-3....yeah you beat Central and Dayton..but they are far from the central and dayton of last year....and the Dayton win was a fluke anyhow. PNG would have 5,000 yards on the season so far if they played Johnson's Bayou's JV team every weekend too. Your steppin on the field with the real deal tonight and like I said...there will be no more hiding behind 1-5 teams....it's time all of southeast texas knows what the real Lumberton is all about. You might as well hush with the childish chatter and sit back and learn something about football tonight....that is if you can talk your mom into driving you to the game. PNG 35 Lumberton 14

Actually...the more time I have to consider things about this game tonight....the more I tend to believe PNG will easly walk away with a victory. Lumbertons win record and season stats are pretty out of proportion if you ask me. Theyre opponents to this point have combined for a total of what ???? 8 (eight) wins???? Thats 6 teams they have played have (if im not mistaken) 8 total wins between 'em.???? Give me a break!!! PNG's opponents to this point have combined for what???? 23-24 wins???? If im not mistaken 3 of Lumbertons opponents are 1-5??? Central and Dayton are a far far cry from the teams of last year and ALL of the big hoopla surrounding Lumberton is centered around beating a bunch of good for nothing teams and 2 questionable at best teams in Dayton and Central. If you ask me it's like watching a 22 year old beat up on some 3rd graders and saying.." Man...he whipped those kids good....he must be the toughest man in the world." Line him up against Mike Tyson and then talk to me about how "tough" he is. Well guess what???? Lumberton is playing a real team tonight. No more hiding behind 1-5 records and weak defenses. PNG rolls with ease tonight...im sticking with my original call....PNG 35- Lumberton-14.

Apparently your not too smart.....2 different run plays the entire game and your big back ran for 256 (actually it was 254) yards??? Hahaha sounds like Centrals run defense was really good. Come try and run 2 different run plays all night in Port Neches and see what happens...I said they arent the team they were last season. If you don't think home field advantage and noise plays a role in football I guess you didnt see that Dallas game last week in Buffalo or have never watched Florida State enter the Swamp and play. Anyhow...Ive never said anything to put Lumberton down....in fact just the opposite....they got a really really good team this year but don't be fooled into thinking your playing Central again this friday night because it's gonna be a big big difference. You guys are steppin on the field with the Big Dawgs now...if ya beat us...then wonderful job and you will hear nothing but praise from me....but it isnt gonna come easy. Time will tell what The Lumberton Raiders are made of..... i think this weekend is a true test to that. I know what the PN_G Indians are made of...they are made of countless playoff runs....75 years of tradition, purple blood, sweat, and tears... numerous heartbreaks. These kids are born and raised to strap it on fridays nights and defend the reservation from the time they are old enough to say the word "Cherokee". Ever been to a PN-G elementary school pep rally??? It's bread into them ... however much you may think Lumberton will be ready for the challenge that may or may not be the case....but I can promise you this much...the purple side of the ball will be ready because in Port Neches and Groves it's more than a game .... it's a way of life. Again...good luck this weekend and may the best team win...and either way no hard feelings...Lumberton has a classy program so far and would be a good representative for our district in the playoffs.

I somewhat agree although I do not believe Dayton or Central is nearly the teams they were last season. Lumberton is no doubt gonna be a true test for our defense against the run. Im not sure on Lumbertons passing game so I won't throw that into the mix....however I think the defense's are probably a wash....passing game ....possibly a wash and running game if considering hemmings vs. hussey a wash....however the tie breaker for me is the recent explosion of Josh Wright onto the scene. I think this Juniour runner is just beggining to show his true stuff and will prove to be the big difference in the game. This kid is for real and is a true threat....if ANY team can keep this guy from turning the corners they have done something. This is the BEST 1 - 2 punch in the backfield since old thunder and lighting in PNG's glory days. Im sticking by my predicition but in all honesty....i wouldnt be suprised to see lumberton win...i don't think they will but ...gotta give credit where credit is due...lumberton has a nice team.

Lumberton has a pretty good team this year...they have a good defense, a good running back. However....it's gonna be extremely tough to come into the Reservation a week after PNG upsetting Nederland and win. Gonna be alot of CRAZY LOUD fans there still pumped from last week. Our boys are gonna have alot of confidence and momentum. One thing is for sure....Lumberton has arrived to play in their first EVER big game...can they handle the pressure? We will see....this type of game is second nature for our boys at PNG. Again ..im not taking anything away from Lumberton....they may pull off a victory ....but I believe its gonna take alot more than a decent running game to beat PNG at home following Mid County Madness. If you Lumberton fans don't beleive that...go talk to some Nederland fans or players. One more thing...ya better bring some earplugs cause it's gonna be loud. Prediction PN-G 35 Lumberton 17