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[quote name="True Blue Mom" post="773939" timestamp="1268165222"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=65861.msg773739#msg773739 date=1268146975] [quote author=SETX RULES link=topic=65861.msg773602#msg773602 date=1268108901] Can we assume that HF and OF can be favorably compared based on enrollment?  If so then the issue of AD and who and what is a good fit can be brought up and we can look at OF, they replaced their AD last year with not much improvement in football.  Last year there was a thread that stated that it was the kids at OF and their preference to play basketball was more to blame for the team having trouble making playoffs.  Watching SETX sports for more than a decade I can attest to one thing OF will always compete for a playoff spot in every sport.  The new AD at OF will make two playoffs in the next five years. HF can only compete in vball and baseball year in and year out.  The reason is * Athletes are above average in ALL of the following categories: Height, wing span, quickness, speed, overall coordination and body control.  In the last five years HF has completely lost all there athletes, they are gone the have a hand full at best.  Now new coach will fix that. OF and HF are the only two schools in that district that have never been larger than 3A.  However, OF has more athletes and better facillities as well as better pay.  The OF parents may not always agree with coaches but they keep their thoughts to themselves better than HF, the HF parents feel that this site was designed for them to explain to the rest of the SETX community that with better coaching they would win.  HF wants to let you know how well they do in defending their state title in academic UIL.  What we should do is set up a forum for the smart kids parents from HF to get on her and thump their chest.  All I can say is HF is not two or ten years from competing in all sports they should move the junior high coaches up and then and only then will they win.                              [/quote] :D [/quote][font=Comic Sans MS][/font][color=blue][/color]WOW! - I take it you're not a communication major.  There is so much to say about this comment - where to begin?!!! Think I'll bite my tongue and just sit this one out. [/quote]Me too! I was going to respond but deleted my comments before I posting.

[quote name="Swag" post="773880" timestamp="1268158120"] Those "Hunter Boys" weren't ready for them Lions last year in Mexia. Beat those "Hunter boys" twice. Back2Back!!! Oh and we're 2a. So do you still feel like ya'll can beat Silsbee and Hj in 2012. Shouldn't setx be worried about Ktz Lil dribblers team in 2012 instead of H.F team? We won Nationals, yall didn't. [/quote]Swag, I think we played you guys 4 times that year and we split 2/2. yes you won nationals and deserved it. I have a lot of respect for your Kountze team, but you also know you have to bring your best game ;)

In 2a divisions, what is the average height for your big people?

[quote name="86hawk" post="773831" timestamp="1268154655"] I agree with pumping up the kids and keeping them positive.  I think that is huge when the younger players are learning and developing a passion for the game.  Often times the focus falls on the final score and negatives vs the positives, good skill development and team work.  Not many programs can go undefeated, but some kids walk on the court and feel defeated before the game has already started.  Yes, it is important to win games, but keeping the positvie attitude will help the motivate the lesser developed skilled players and make them better players. As far as beating HJ, keep hope alive. [/quote]LOL! Miracles do happen! Ask David :D

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="773796" timestamp="1268151269"] According to the Silsbee Middle school coaches, Hamshire-Fannett's 7th grade team is legit, not a one man team. Silsbee's 8th grade team was undefeated district champs. ;D [/quote]When some of HF's 7th and 8th graders reach high school and play together, it won't be as easy. Then I'm going to take over your show and call it [color=goldenrod]"[/color][color=blue]HamshireFannettAreWe.[color=goldenrod]"

[quote name="86hawk" post="773789" timestamp="1268150778"] i love the excitement Bluedove brings to the board with talk of Jr. High basketball.  I agree with him that there is a special kid in HF, could end up being one of the best atheletes in SETX.  Let's assume he is the best athelete in SETX in 3 years, what else will he have around him?  HJ does not have the best atheletes.  Look at Navasota, Cleveland, and Silsbee (i did not see KTZ play).  They all had better atheletes as a whole, but lack a higher level of coaching.  As i have grown older, i have come to realize coaches play a bigger role in the game vs the athelete.  My piont is HF is a lot more than an athelete from a district title.  It will be nice to see them competitive.  Hang in there Blue. [/quote]On a serious note, yes I try and boast about these guys because the community needs it and needs to understand what they have coming up in a few years. I know talent. Sometimes a player or two can and will make softer players step up their game, because they now have a gauge. I see it happening now in HF. And yes all of this so-call talent could go to waste if the coaches can't blend in the various talent levels when they hit high school. But as long as we beat HJ in district and snap their winning streaks going to regionals, I'll be happy :D

[quote name="coachacola" post="773774" timestamp="1268149795"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=66956.msg773771#msg773771 date=1268149439] I thought Roc was described as young and energetic when he arrived on the scene?Thats alread been tried several times at LU. Maybe it's time for a father-figure to run things around here. [/quote] Lamar has tried almost every kind of coach there is these last 20 years without much success!   :D [/quote]Hmm? Who was 50 years old the last 20 years and could control and evaluate players? Name one!

[quote name="Swag" post="773760" timestamp="1268148519"] You don't think other kids from other schools will be motivated...all this J.Hunter talk. You act like he's pro ready. I wouldn't be putting a lot of hype on a 5'5 point guard. If he was 6'10 and plays above the rim then that's when setx needs to worry about H.F...I'm telling you this guy is good but its gonna take more than him to whip the Big 3.(Hardin County Teams) he will face all sort of zones and presses. Lots of help defenses if needed. Joubert, Williams and Sutherland will not let this 1 guy beat them.These are some of the Best coaches in Texas. Check their background if you don't believe me. State Champs and  several State appearances. Dove hunting is my favorite. Lmao [/quote]Swag, you have some valid points, can't argue against some of them. Still gonna kicj that butt ;)

I thought Roc was described as young and energetic when he arrived on the scene?Thats alread been tried several times at LU. Maybe it's time for a father-figure to run things around here.

[quote name="SETX RULES" post="773602" timestamp="1268108901"] Can we assume that HF and OF can be favorably compared based on enrollment?  If so then the issue of AD and who and what is a good fit can be brought up and we can look at OF, they replaced their AD last year with not much improvement in football.  Last year there was a thread that stated that it was the kids at OF and their preference to play basketball was more to blame for the team having trouble making playoffs.  Watching SETX sports for more than a decade I can attest to one thing OF will always compete for a playoff spot in every sport.  The new AD at OF will make two playoffs in the next five years. HF can only compete in vball and baseball year in and year out.  The reason is * Athletes are above average in ALL of the following categories: Height, wing span, quickness, speed, overall coordination and body control.  In the last five years HF has completely lost all there athletes, they are gone the have a hand full at best.  Now new coach will fix that. OF and HF are the only two schools in that district that have never been larger than 3A.  However, OF has more athletes and better facillities as well as better pay.  The OF parents may not always agree with coaches but they keep their thoughts to themselves better than HF, the HF parents feel that this site was designed for them to explain to the rest of the SETX community that with better coaching they would win.  HF wants to let you know how well they do in defending their state title in academic UIL.  What we should do is set up a forum for the smart kids parents from HF to get on her and thump their chest.  All I can say is HF is not two or ten years from competing in all sports they should move the junior high coaches up and then and only then will they win.                              [/quote] :D

[quote name="sleepy" post="773718" timestamp="1268145035"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=66956.msg773712#msg773712 date=1268144687] [quote author=sleepy link=topic=66956.msg773705#msg773705 date=1268143517] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=66956.msg773703#msg773703 date=1268143379] [quote author=sleepy link=topic=66956.msg773696#msg773696 date=1268141516] [quote author=shorttexas1 link=topic=66956.msg773586#msg773586 date=1268106721] Neither could Roc with all those credentials... They don't mean a thing when you hand over the reigns...  Plenty of big names and noteriety have failed and failed big... Frank Martin's name did not get those players!!! Even at Baylor, it took guys with some other background...  Maybe the trick is not to shoot so high for a canidate that will not come!  They have done that and failed.  Players from this and the Houston area would play for Boutte before going to Tennessee Tech, La Tech, BYU, or Tulane.... Period!   We have sent some of our best players to these schools...  Even the Hancock, Skip Jackson, and Edward Garret went to Southland schools... They coould have been great together at Lamar! [/quote] Garriet and Hancock could have been decent Lamar players but Jackson not so much.  I just simply disagree that he could keep players from going to BYU, La Tech, and Tulane. The exposure they get is just on a different level than that of Lamar.  I just don't see that happening. Tennessee Tech.......well yes he could keep them from going there. I agree that we should not shoot so high when trying to get a head coach.  I simply don't think Boutte would be the answer.  With that said if they gave him a chance I would fully support him and it would be fun to watch.  In my opinion I don't think it is the right thing to do. Bottom line is there are already people interested in the job that would be great here.  Young guys with Texas ties. [/quote]Boutee is young and has Texas ties [/quote] Your idea of young and mine are different.  [/quote]hMMM? When did the definition of "young" change? Please explain! [/quote] Young is a relative term.  Do you understand what relative means? The guy I am speaking of is in his 20's and the guy you are speaking of is in his 40's or 50's.  Big difference.  Get the drift.  And oh by the way here is the definition of a young man! Noun 1. young man - a teenager or a young adult male      [/quote]So wait a minute. Let me get this staright. You're saying LU should have a young man or teenager as a coach???

You guys may need to bring in some height. Or is 6'2" tall in 2a ball?

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="773628" timestamp="1268110470"] More than 50% think that it is time for him to go!!!!!! [/quote]Finally, people are waking up and seeing the truth.

[quote name="sleepy" post="773705" timestamp="1268143517"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=66956.msg773703#msg773703 date=1268143379] [quote author=sleepy link=topic=66956.msg773696#msg773696 date=1268141516] [quote author=shorttexas1 link=topic=66956.msg773586#msg773586 date=1268106721] Neither could Roc with all those credentials... They don't mean a thing when you hand over the reigns...  Plenty of big names and noteriety have failed and failed big... Frank Martin's name did not get those players!!! Even at Baylor, it took guys with some other background...  Maybe the trick is not to shoot so high for a canidate that will not come!  They have done that and failed.  Players from this and the Houston area would play for Boutte before going to Tennessee Tech, La Tech, BYU, or Tulane.... Period!   We have sent some of our best players to these schools...  Even the Hancock, Skip Jackson, and Edward Garret went to Southland schools... They coould have been great together at Lamar! [/quote] Garriet and Hancock could have been decent Lamar players but Jackson not so much.  I just simply disagree that he could keep players from going to BYU, La Tech, and Tulane. The exposure they get is just on a different level than that of Lamar.  I just don't see that happening. Tennessee Tech.......well yes he could keep them from going there. I agree that we should not shoot so high when trying to get a head coach.  I simply don't think Boutte would be the answer.  With that said if they gave him a chance I would fully support him and it would be fun to watch.  In my opinion I don't think it is the right thing to do. Bottom line is there are already people interested in the job that would be great here.  Young guys with Texas ties. [/quote]Boutee is young and has Texas ties [/quote] Your idea of young and mine are different.  [/quote]hMMM? When did the definition of "young" change? Please explain!

[quote name="sleepy" post="773696" timestamp="1268141516"] [quote author=shorttexas1 link=topic=66956.msg773586#msg773586 date=1268106721] Neither could Roc with all those credentials... They don't mean a thing when you hand over the reigns...  Plenty of big names and noteriety have failed and failed big... Frank Martin's name did not get those players!!! Even at Baylor, it took guys with some other background...  Maybe the trick is not to shoot so high for a canidate that will not come!  They have done that and failed.  Players from this and the Houston area would play for Boutte before going to Tennessee Tech, La Tech, BYU, or Tulane.... Period!   We have sent some of our best players to these schools...  Even the Hancock, Skip Jackson, and Edward Garret went to Southland schools... They coould have been great together at Lamar! [/quote] Garriet and Hancock could have been decent Lamar players but Jackson not so much.  I just simply disagree that he could keep players from going to BYU, La Tech, and Tulane. The exposure they get is just on a different level than that of Lamar.  I just don't see that happening. Tennessee Tech.......well yes he could keep them from going there. I agree that we should not shoot so high when trying to get a head coach.  I simply don't think Boutte would be the answer.  With that said if they gave him a chance I would fully support him and it would be fun to watch.  In my opinion I don't think it is the right thing to do. Bottom line is there are already people interested in the job that would be great here.  Young guys with Texas ties. [/quote]Boutee is young and has Texas ties

I love it! Keep talking! Good motivation

Man, I love it!  :o

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="773240" timestamp="1268066512"] Did you really just rank the SWAC ahead of the Southland!!!!!!!!  HAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!  I doubt that Gillispie will take ANY job in the SWAC!!!! [/quote]SWAC and Southland about even or close :D

Wasn't Boutte's name thrown around once b4?

[quote name="sleepy" post="773336" timestamp="1268075445"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=67027.msg773325#msg773325 date=1268073694] [quote author=sleepy link=topic=67027.msg773319#msg773319 date=1268073011] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=67027.msg773308#msg773308 date=1268072529] [quote author=sleepy link=topic=67027.msg773300#msg773300 date=1268072067] [quote author=coachacola link=topic=67027.msg773231#msg773231 date=1268065788] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=67027.msg773157#msg773157 date=1268060848] He'll get one more year. Something happened? [b]I don't keep up with them this year.[/b] Is the Southland Conf. playoffs over? LU  stunk it up? [/quote] Another reason why he may not be around next year, he's bringing apathy back to LU basketball.  I doubt Roc will get publicly "fired", but if he doesn't return next year Tubbs better have a replacement that will get people excited. [/quote] Tubbs will not fire him in these economic times.  He has one year left on his contract.  However a former Trailblazer becomes a demon look for him to be gone. [/quote]That trail been dim a long time. Even his name can't recruit any players here. [/quote] I am not talking about that guy coming here.  Read again.  If a former trailblazer becomes a demon rock may be gone. Won't tell you who will be the next coach here just yet. [/quote]And I was referring to the guy who is ALREADY here. [/quote] You said even his name cant get people here.  What name?  Its not a very big one! [/quote]I was refrring to the AD

[quote name="PoppaBearstarr" post="773366" timestamp="1268078120"] He probably wont be posting on here at that time... ;D...He will be tired of eating crow. Blue said that he has never been associated with a loosing program, sounds to me like he will be moving to Silsbee or HJ.... ;D [/quote]Poppa, my momma ain't raise no fool! Whats the name of the new addition on Hwy 90? Ranch Broussard? Looks like a lot of space out there (just in case ;D

i THOUGHT THIS THREAD WAS ABOUT [color=red]THE BEST GAME[/color]

[quote name="sleepy" post="773319" timestamp="1268073011"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=67027.msg773308#msg773308 date=1268072529] [quote author=sleepy link=topic=67027.msg773300#msg773300 date=1268072067] [quote author=coachacola link=topic=67027.msg773231#msg773231 date=1268065788] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=67027.msg773157#msg773157 date=1268060848] He'll get one more year. Something happened? [b]I don't keep up with them this year.[/b] Is the Southland Conf. playoffs over? LU  stunk it up? [/quote] Another reason why he may not be around next year, he's bringing apathy back to LU basketball.  I doubt Roc will get publicly "fired", but if he doesn't return next year Tubbs better have a replacement that will get people excited. [/quote] Tubbs will not fire him in these economic times.  He has one year left on his contract.  However a former Trailblazer becomes a demon look for him to be gone. [/quote]That trail been dim a long time. Even his name can't recruit any players here. [/quote] I am not talking about that guy coming here.  Read again.  If a former trailblazer becomes a demon rock may be gone. Won't tell you who will be the next coach here just yet. [/quote]And I was referring to the guy who is ALREADY here.

:D ;D ::) ::)   Living in denial people. The ones in Sour Lake who are really in the know are  being quiet.

[quote name="bullets13000" post="773309" timestamp="1268072559"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=66675.msg773306#msg773306 date=1268072460] [quote author=bullets13000 link=topic=66675.msg773304#msg773304 date=1268072348] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=66675.msg773297#msg773297 date=1268071869] [quote author=CommonSense link=topic=66675.msg773274#msg773274 date=1268070181] This is a HJ-Cleveland post, not HJ-Silsbee. Any signs of HF??????? [/quote]Sensitive aren't we? Feel the edge slipping away huh? [/quote] yup.  HJ made their 4th regional final game in a row.... that edge is slipping... [/quote]Slowly but surely [/quote] i guess.  i wouldn't be at all shocked to see them there again next year.  [/quote]I wouldn't be surprised either. In fact, I expect them there next year. But the light is burning out.