BLUEDOVE3

Nash, you said it! I didn't

[quote name="stevenash" post="1211257" timestamp="1334610692"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=98548.msg1211253#msg1211253 date=1334609819] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=98548.msg1211250#msg1211250 date=1334609213] There is nothing greater than the communicative efforts between a true brother and a true member of "you people". [/quote] "You people kill me."  ;D [/quote] ONe of the reasons I have a new avatar. [/quote] 8) HJ looked good with their 7-8 players. They will make the playoffs again. But WO-S will be back in the heat of things.

[quote name="stevenash" post="1211250" timestamp="1334609213"] There is nothing greater than the communicative efforts between a true brother and a true member of "you people". [/quote] "You people kill me."  ;D

[quote name="stevenash" post="1211223" timestamp="1334603544"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=98548.msg1211216#msg1211216 date=1334601923] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=98548.msg1211193#msg1211193 date=1334597184] While I certainly cannot answer for the Dove, I am thinking he views this tournament as a pretty good indicator of the future:  aka "Oh, but back to the tourney. Saw the future. Ain't no way HJ beating Ozen this year " [/quote] Trying to get off topic again Nash?  HJ will need to increase their budget to buy more balls. Ain't enough to shoot around in the game ;D [/quote] I have a very strong feeling that with the appropriate sideline management, that will not be an issue since it never has been in the past.  But you did make a good suggestion.  I just ordered 50 more balls to make sure there is sufficient inventory.  Will order another 50 as soon as the German exchange student commits. [/quote] See Nash reads "between the lines."  He knows what I'm talking about and I also know the coaches will handle this as they obviously did last year.  ;)

[quote name="cbosha" post="1211217" timestamp="1334602247"] Dove, your grammar is horrific, besides only one basketball can be used per game so your joke is lame. You always speak too soon. See how things go at Ozen during their basketball season before you predict anything about HJ. That would be the smart thing to do, but then again...... [/quote]Wats wrung wid "ain"t?" Boy! U people!

[quote name="stevenash" post="1211193" timestamp="1334597184"] While I certainly cannot answer for the Dove, I am thinking he views this tournament as a pretty good indicator of the future:  aka "Oh, but back to the tourney. Saw the future. Ain't no way HJ beating Ozen this year " [/quote] Trying to get off topic again Nash?  HJ will need to increase their budget to buy more balls. Ain't enough to shoot around in the game ;D

[quote name="cbosha" post="1211186" timestamp="1334595942"] Blue dove you of all people should not dicuss people taking threads, or games too seriously. You are always posting crap, and talking noise and Nash shuts it down!!! 8) [/quote] i'M BUSTED!  ;D

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1211173" timestamp="1334593666"] [quote author=Steven_A_Smith link=topic=98548.msg1211151#msg1211151 date=1334591199] Thanks for the information Honest Abe of the tournament results but 'Quite Frankly' my friends, if you win at the park or at the YMCA by 1 point or you win by 50 points, a win is a win.  However, these are ball games played outside of the regular season...none of these games will be put in the record books. [/quote] I agree. Don't get too caught up in results from Spring Tournaments or Summer Leagues. These games do not have coaching involved, and these kids are looking to improve their skills/game. After losing Seniors, it's interesting to see who will step up and lead their respective teams. [/quote] Thanks Abe! *Some* people may take this too serious.

[quote name="cbosha" post="1211170" timestamp="1334592608"] Yes, Abe I was at the game. I get Little Dove and his brother mixed up.Were you there? No, didn't think so. So you never should have responded to my response to Patrick Thomas, who is a close friend of mine , and was aware what I meant when I said Bosha is great. It was a reference to his health. I don't like you and never have, I suggest you quit communicating with me before I reveal your true identity. I know who you are. And Dove, you are not upsetting anyone from Hj, actually this is great entertainment. You make an idiot of yourself all the time. [/quote] I know! Thanks!  ;)

I've seen teams with 7 players run over teams with 15 players. So remember, "You get credit for what you finish, not what you start."  ;)

[quote name="cbosha" post="1211137" timestamp="1334588974"] Nash, and with all the rumors Blue Dove claims are going on, and the absense of many HJ players ( Ozen clearly had more than 6 players there, including Little Dove), Ozen only won by 2 points. Wow! Amazing! ::) [/quote]Little Dove didn't play with Ozen.  ;) All I'm saying is that HJ better have a larger budget this year to purchase more basketballs.  ;D

Not sure. Just getting HJ worked up. ;D

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1211046" timestamp="1334538876"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=98548.msg1211043#msg1211043 date=1334537901] RUMORS!FACTS! RUMORS! FACTS!RUMORS! a. Transfer to Westbrook b. Drama among teammates (not enough balls to share) C.  :-X :-X Oh, but back to the tourney. Saw the future. Ain't no way HJ beating Ozen this year ;D Silsbee and HJ will be battling for the top two spots in their district. [/quote] Speaking of Silsbee, what happened to them this weekend? Don't know if they even won one game (unless they beat Friendswood)... [/quote]Didn't see Chris Elam . Maybe thats why.

RUMORS!FACTS! RUMORS! FACTS!RUMORS! a. Transfer to Westbrook b. Drama among teammates (not enough balls to share) C.  :-X :-X Oh, but back to the tourney. Saw the future. Ain't no way HJ beating Ozen this year ;D Silsbee and HJ will be battling for the top two spots in their district.

I better stay mum for right now. COACH English let me in the tournament for $5.00.  :o

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1206732" timestamp="1333636188"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=98548.msg1206614#msg1206614 date=1333597395] I'm hearing the tourney is April 14th. Call Nederland. [/quote] Yes. Tourney next weekend. Teams playing in the Varsity level tourney include: Friendswood HF HJ Legacy Memorial Ned 1 Ned 2 Ozen Silsbee WO-S Possibly 2 more. There will also be a JV division, 7th grade division, and 8th grade division. [/quote]Yep, Ozen has a game tonite.

[quote name="hitman009" post="1210111" timestamp="1334331658"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=98828.msg1210107#msg1210107 date=1334330984] Actually, I'm a firm believer if you have above average skills you can get a college scholarship. It may come as a walk-on making the team to getting that D-1 every kid and parent wants. Its about positioning, effort, luck, and some skill. [/quote]but is some sports they are NOT FULL RIDES.  11.7 is what you can give. you have to spread them out.  Which one do you think a college coach is going to sign: a kid that has excellent skills but cant make the grade or A kid who has above average skill but does make the grade and can get a part acedemic scholarship.  The answer is number 2.  Most kids do not get a FULL RIDE in baseball. even the studs... THANKS TITLE 9!!!! [/quote] Most kids get  a partial but get the chance to continue to play the game they love in college.

Actually, I'm a firm believer if you have above average skills you can get a college scholarship. It may come as a walk-on making the team to getting that D-1 every kid and parent wants. Its about positioning, effort, luck, and some skill.

[quote name="sig220" post="1209936" timestamp="1334263453"] I do not think Hobbs is a certified educator.  This makes him virtually unhireable at a public school. [/quote]Unless the district allows him an emergency certification

[quote name="catfever" post="1209812" timestamp="1334253746"] Many skills from all sports can be taught in 50 minutes.  My belief is that the Head Coach of the sport should be allowed to decide what days to lift weights, what conditioning or agility drills would benefit his kids, and what sport specific skill drills could help his sport.  Most coaches want to build something within their sport so they would want to get better in the offseason.  It is hard to do that when you have no control over what the kids do in the offseason.  Many people have gotten on here and said that kids should be motivated enough to do it on their own.  I completely agree and when I was younger we were like that.  Are we really naive enough to think that very many of them are going to do that today.  Kids have changed.  They don't live outside anymore to throw the ball around or shoot hoops.  Society has changed and athletics needs to adjust as well in order to progress.  Somebody mentioned the 2010 Bobcat baseball team.  That team had three young men who really knew how to work and were gifted with many natural talents as well.  They were very driven.  Those kids don't come around very often.  Not many teams have 3 Division one athletes on one team at the 3A level. [/quote]Not even 5-A now ;)

[quote name="falconfanatic" post="1209673" timestamp="1334245806"] I don't think it is necessary to have a " baseball or basketball" class. Like some other posters said the skills to make someone a good baseball or basketball player will not be acquired in a 50 minute class, it takes much more than that. However what will hurt athletes that play other sports is the way they lift. Football lifts are typically designed to go alot of weight with fewer reps, which makes the athlete bulkier and more explosive. That is the exact opposite types of lift that you need for baseball. Baseball requires for leaner muscle which is acquired with lighter weight and increased reps. There are also certain lifts like bench press that are common in football that provide no benefit for baseball players and will even lead to increased injuries in pitchers. Bench press has been described as "the single mos dangerous weight room activity for pitchers". When I was in high school (class of 08) we lifted bench press atleast 3 times a weak with heavy weight. We didnt have specialized classes and the athletic period was purely designed for football even durring the offseason we were required to do football workouts. You couldn't even be in the athletic class unless you played football, which left the kids that specialized at one sport at a disadvantage. So no it is not necessary to have a specialized class for each sport, but the workouts in the athletic period should be designed to benfit all athletes. If there is a kid who plays baseball he should not be required to football workouts he should have his own workout that will benfit him as a baseball player. If there are multiple sport athletes they should not be required to do football lifts especially bench press durring the baseball season. Here is an article about the dangers of bench press for baseball players. [Hidden Content] [/quote]These were my concerns. Felt better after visiting the school and my concerns for proper knee squats for no-football training.

[quote name="Smoking Baby" post="1209320" timestamp="1334172571"] It wasn't that long ago coaches were watching porn in the same locker room (different coaches).  Not always just kids, parents and staff need to take a better leadership role.  I'd say haul them to Dayton and say, this is where we will ship you if you don't straighten up.  That will scare them straight.  ;D ;D [/quote]It works ;)

[quote name="catfever" post="1209525" timestamp="1334196332"] Bridge City has a baseball and basketball.  WOS has baseball and basketball.  Silsbee has basketball and baseball.  HJ has basketball and baseball.  Who knows what the new AD at HF will have, but with a certain board member on the nomination committee and his kid play bball, they will probably be able to do thier sport.  So OF will be the only one in 21-3A that doesn't.  All of you are correct.  Kids should learn the basics of all sports in the youth ages, but the sad part is there are more and more that are not being taught, and without those individual skills, the team will suffer.  Dove wasn't Universal offseason one of the things that you griped about when your boys were at HF.  Do they practice skills at Ozen now.  Also, there is 50 minutes allocated during school that they can practice as a team.  It is after school that they cannot do this until their season starts.  The coach can design any workout during this 50 minute period all school year. Also, I never said kids couldn't practice football during this time.  That should be completely up to the Head football coach if he so chooses. [/quote] When they were in middle school I initially had some concerns with weight lifting (specifically  leg squats). But the coach and I met and he explained what they were doing and the supervision involved and I felt HF's program was very beneficial to their growth and development. From what the boys are telling me, they get in a lot of weight lifting, running, and some gym time.

[quote name="Riding Solo" post="1209484" timestamp="1334191663"] Karma for you Dove. ;D [/quote]Lord knows I could use a few  ;D

[quote name="Riding Solo" post="1209460" timestamp="1334188078"] [quote author=catfever link=topic=98828.msg1209174#msg1209174 date=1334159096] This topic would probably get a more accurate response on the baseball and basketball forums.  IMO, yes it does help.  They can get better at individual skills that are a must in order for a TEAM to be successful.  They still need to work on throwing, batting, and catching in baseball and dribbling and shooting in basketball.  I agree that kids don't need to specialize at the 3A level, but lets face it, some kids aren't football players, just like some are not baseball or basketball players.  Why should the kids who just aren't football players, not be able to get better at the sport they like to play.  If done properly, this would not encourage kids to specialize, it would just benefit the ones who do. [/quote] Football is the issue here, so this thread is in the right place. Just like you said, it would benefit the ones that do "SPECIALIZE".  The bigger picture is "ALL" the kids. How do "ALL" the kids benefit? It's about the program as a whole. By the way if a kid wants to get better it is not done by the coaches at the High school or college level, it is done by the individual kid who puts in the extra work to get better on their own. Kids are responsible for their own actions. [/quote]Good points!