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[quote name="Jay Bilas" post="1044890" timestamp="1314726734"] Not intending to down your area, but my point was what is actually in Sour Lake that would make a family up and move there from somewhere else. You have answered that question. And so do they usually just happen to have a son that can play ball, too? usually? I am sure Sour Lake is a fine place to live. [/quote] NO - very few move ins in Sour Lake who have good basketball players.( in fact, I have been watching this program since 1984 and this is the first one I can think of that has a chance to make a substantial impact even though  he is not likely to start- is it that way at Yates?)  Little Dribblers program is a good one and develops the overwhelming majority of those who play at Hardin Jefferson- ( i think that is the way it is supposed to be done and, if it was that way everywhere, HJs basketball history might be even better than it currently is)

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Will be there.  Will probably video the broadcast for its historic value in the future.  When you and Dove replace Mike and Mike, I will then offer the video for sale.

[quote name="Jay Bilas" post="1044836" timestamp="1314724076"] Huh? I have always been a pretty humble guy. Not sure about any "happenings" in my life, but yeah I guess you can still say that I am a humble guy...I still see there is no response to my earlier question, though, my friend!  Its OK to be a little biased towards your school or city! ;D [/quote] Biased?  In the eyes of whom?

:D :D :D :D :D :D

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1044779" timestamp="1314719249"] ooops! There go me and Nash off-topic again. [/quote] Don't worry about it- the subject and behavior police will quickly respond.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1044742" timestamp="1314717582"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=85458.msg1044696#msg1044696 date=1314714681] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=85458.msg1044136#msg1044136 date=1314649426] [quote author=PoppaBearstarr link=topic=85458.msg1044078#msg1044078 date=1314644361] I also enjoyed watching him Nash, solid player....streaky three point too...how long till basketball starts...I cant wait.. [/quote]yEP, he's a streaky shooter. But he will definitely help the program out there I must admit. [/quote] Dove- its looks pretty bad for you to be agreeing with me on such topics!!! [/quote]Yep, before you know Nash I'll be demanding mandatory urine test for all democrats ;D [/quote] Tests for Democrats?  I thought it was already established that they were not involved in those sort of activities?  Dont they spend most of their time making sure the environment is protected and that the "rich" don't stay that way?

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1044765" timestamp="1314718667"] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=87377.msg1044764#msg1044764 date=1314718577] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=87377.msg1044749#msg1044749 date=1314717972] [quote author=Jay Bilas link=topic=87377.msg1044706#msg1044706 date=1314715176] What, in your opinion, constitutes "rough"? Poverty stricken? No new development, except for the University? or is it the demographic? I have been over there millions of time and can you believe that, NOTHING has EVER happened to me? Go figure...Its not a "rough" area at all...Its an older, under developed area, that by the way has some MILLION DOLLAR homes located less than 2 miles away from that "rough" area...(MacGregor Area, Medical Center)...The Third Ward of Houston has some fascinating history behind it...which is where Yates HS is located...Do the research. [/quote]I don't mean to sound racist  ::) but if yall go down just a few blocks from J. Yates off Southmore Street, you will find white people walking their dogs and they live in the area. This area is not a mile from Jack Yates. Explore people-get out of S.E.Texas sometimes. [/quote] Dove reminds me of Jim McKay's monolog in ABC's Wide World of Sports: "Spanning the globe to bring you a constant variety of sorts" (left the p out purposely ;D) [/quote] :D You Silsbee people kill me! [/quote] While I normally would not be attending an Ozen game, it would be worth the trip if I knew that I would see AAW and Dove teaming up at the broadcast table.  If this becomes a reality, I hope somebody will let me know.

[quote name="Jay Bilas" post="1044706" timestamp="1314715176"] What, in your opinion, constitutes "rough"? Poverty stricken? No new development, except for the University? or is it the demographic? I have been over there millions of time and can you believe that, NOTHING has EVER happened to me? Go figure...Its not a "rough" area at all...Its an older, under developed area, that by the way has some MILLION DOLLAR homes located less than 2 miles away from that "rough" area...(MacGregor Area, Medical Center)...The Third Ward of Houston has some fascinating history behind it...which is where Yates HS is located...Do the research. [/quote] I have no idea whether this particular area is rough or not.  However, the fact that you were never hurt does NOT, in any way, indicate the degree of "roughness" in that location. (and I suspect "being there millions of times" just might be a slight exaggeration)

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1044752" timestamp="1314718142"] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=85458.msg1044750#msg1044750 date=1314718030] [quote author=Jay Bilas link=topic=85458.msg1044724#msg1044724 date=1314716313] Absolutely....Sour Lake is the new hot spot.... ::)..great night life, terrific economy, great neighborhoods and schools..and ONE STOP LIGHT!!! LOL.... 8)....Avoidance of the question, however, speaks volumes as to the position of the members of this message board when it comes to the issue of kids transferring schools...If it happens at one of your schools in YOUR area (HJ, Silsbee, Kountze etc.) everything is above board and legal...If it happens in an area that we are unfamiliar with (Nederland, Ozen, Houston area schools, etc), it HAD to be some foul play going on...Is my assumption accurate? It certainly APPEARS that it is...Correct me if I am wrong, please... ::) [/quote] You are wrong, your assumption is wrong. I am very familiar with Nederland, Ozen and Houston schools. ;) ;D [/quote]Are you gonna broadcast any Ozen games. I'll be your [color=purple]*color*[/color] commentator [/quote] Dove is an outstanding commentator ( just as long as there is a conveniently located ATM)

[quote name="Jay Bilas" post="1044724" timestamp="1314716313"] Absolutely....Sour Lake is the new hot spot.... ::)..great night life, terrific economy, great neighborhoods and schools..and ONE STOP LIGHT!!! LOL.... 8)....Avoidance of the question, however, speaks volumes as to the position of the members of this message board when it comes to the issue of kids transferring schools...If it happens at one of your schools in YOUR area (HJ, Silsbee, Kountze etc.) everything is above board and legal...If it happens in an area that we are unfamiliar with (Nederland, Ozen, Houston area schools, etc), it HAD to be some foul play going on...Is my assumption accurate? It certainly APPEARS that it is...Correct me if I am wrong, please... ::) [/quote] While I will not evaluate your "assumption" I will tell you that HJ operates under an open enrollment policy- Perhaps that might provide you with insight and serve as an aid in  your subsequent assumption/conclusion.  While you are making your "assumption" I would suggest that my post that was joking about the social life in Sour Lake is hardly an avoidance of your question.

[quote name="Jay Bilas" post="1044708" timestamp="1314715419"] So, would this "transfer" to Hardin Jefferson be considered the "rich getting richer" or are any of you guys going to accuse this particular program of recruiting players to the "Metropolis" called Sour Lake, Texas?.... ::)....I am just asking.... 8) [/quote] It is apparent to me that the buoyant/vibrant economy, endless social opportunities, and general sophistication  of the population of Sour Lake attracts many.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1044136" timestamp="1314649426"] [quote author=PoppaBearstarr link=topic=85458.msg1044078#msg1044078 date=1314644361] I also enjoyed watching him Nash, solid player....streaky three point too...how long till basketball starts...I cant wait.. [/quote]yEP, he's a streaky shooter. But he will definitely help the program out there I must admit. [/quote] Dove- its looks pretty bad for you to be agreeing with me on such topics!!!

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1044058" timestamp="1314643014"] Just so happen to see Greg Wise yesterday. I know how those kids ended up at Yates. He didn't recruit them. But I do predict we may see more students from Africa coming to attend high schools here and just so happen to be 6'5" and up. ;) [/quote] Did he also "not recruit" the kids from California a couple of years ago?  Its really amazing how all of these players manage to wind up at the same location.

No doubt the transfers are to take advantage of academic opportunities currently unavailable to them.

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1043874" timestamp="1314629430"] Thanks for the reminder. I have a meeting with two bank managers this week regarding that concern.  ::) Does he have a bank preference or will any bank be fine? [quote author=stevenash link=topic=86408.msg1043868#msg1043868 date=1314628505] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=86408.msg1032855#msg1032855 date=1312900793] I was really looking forward to the HF/Nederland game that is scheduled for this year.  :( Now we get to deal with Da Dove twice a year!  >:( Thanks Nash!  ;) [/quote] All I can tell you, Abe, is that you had better have conveniently located ATM machines or Dove will file a complaint. [/quote] [/quote] I think any bank will be fine.  Dove has multiple resources and multiple ATM cards made necessary by all of his travels in recent years. (disclaimer- If any of my comments in this post are interpreted or "perceive/construed" negatively by ANYONE, I apologize in advance) for my heartless irreverent conduct.

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1032855" timestamp="1312900793"] I was really looking forward to the HF/Nederland game that is scheduled for this year.  :( Now we get to deal with Da Dove twice a year!  >:( Thanks Nash!  ;) [/quote] All I can tell you, Abe, is that you had better have conveniently located ATM machines or Dove will file a complaint.

The young man of whom you speak is, in my opinion, a real P L A Y E R.  He doesnt make the mistake of trying to be Magic Johnson.  He delivers two handed chest passes to the man ahead of him on the floor that are always very well placed making it easy for the receiver to take the appropriate action.  Watched him play in 3 summer games and he made 0 mistakes.  He will probably be underappreciated because he isn't a "flash" but rather a solid, sound player with sufficient speed/quickness to match up with anyone he guards.  Equally good with left or right hand when going to the bucket and very proficient ball handler.  And what I appreciate most of all, he plays the game well and yet doesnt feel the need to pound his chest, talk trash, give the icy stare, or use  whatever "in" methods are currently in vogue to demonstrate defiance/arrogance.

I have also found that, the older I get, the better I used to be.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1040870" timestamp="1314322725"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=87097.msg1040729#msg1040729 date=1314307498] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=87097.msg1040690#msg1040690 date=1314301874] [quote author=PNGFan link=topic=87097.msg1040617#msg1040617 date=1314294035] Greed has killed the NBA. I cannot remember the last time I sat down and watched a NBA game unless it was on ESBN Classic or a classic game on the  NBA network. [/quote]I think the lack of skill has changed the game, not greed. Did you see the pre-draft this year for the bigs? They were horrible. Bad footwork and slow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [/quote] Keep in mind, Dove, that you are talking about the evil "rich" guys.  Maybe we should invent a bad footwork tax or slowness tax. [/quote]Nah Nash they were black guys, man.  :'( :'( [/quote] Do you not consider Kendrick Perkins as a "rich" guy.  I suspect you are glad he is rich but he is not the "rich" that are evil, right?

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1040690" timestamp="1314301874"] [quote author=PNGFan link=topic=87097.msg1040617#msg1040617 date=1314294035] Greed has killed the NBA. I cannot remember the last time I sat down and watched a NBA game unless it was on ESBN Classic or a classic game on the  NBA network. [/quote]I think the lack of skill has changed the game, not greed. Did you see the pre-draft this year for the bigs? They were horrible. Bad footwork and slow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [/quote] Keep in mind, Dove, that you are talking about the evil "rich" guys.  Maybe we should invent a bad footwork tax or slowness tax.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1040426" timestamp="1314241391"] [quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=87097.msg1040274#msg1040274 date=1314223648] I agree with Dove. I enjoy football season but this 3-4 month break in basketball is already killing me! [/quote] :'( It's gotten so bad I was watching Moses Malone and Dr. J play in a NBA game against Magic Johnson from back in the day. :'( [/quote] Saw the same one- Sixers swept the finals?  Also watched (for abouth the hundredth time) the Celtics-Suns famous triple overtime NBA finals game.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1040210" timestamp="1314217097"] [quote author=stevenash link=topic=87097.msg1040168#msg1040168 date=1314213677] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=87097.msg1040075#msg1040075 date=1314195151] You know Dove, there's not much we agree on, but I like this idea from you!  ;D Nash might even agree with you on this one!! [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=87097.msg1040064#msg1040064 date=1314193100] [quote author=Jay Bilas link=topic=87097.msg1040047#msg1040047 date=1314191438] I totally agree, and thank you WOS Grad for doing so...it was not my intention when I started that thread for discussion...People should really consider others, particularly the kids, before they post sometimes...Thanks again. [/quote]Good point Jay. So yall wanna start another thread to countdown the football season/ending?  ;D [/quote] [/quote] This is sooo painful, but I agree. [/quote] :D I gotta keep plugg'n. At least get you guys to move more towards the middle  ;D [/quote] Sure- but whose perspective will we use when identifying "the midlle"  ( please, whatever you do, do NOT suggest a "balanced" approach because if you are choosing between a glass of pure water and another laced with poison, the "balanced" approach is to mix the two)

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1040075" timestamp="1314195151"] You know Dove, there's not much we agree on, but I like this idea from you!  ;D Nash might even agree with you on this one!! [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=87097.msg1040064#msg1040064 date=1314193100] [quote author=Jay Bilas link=topic=87097.msg1040047#msg1040047 date=1314191438] I totally agree, and thank you WOS Grad for doing so...it was not my intention when I started that thread for discussion...People should really consider others, particularly the kids, before they post sometimes...Thanks again. [/quote]Good point Jay. So yall wanna start another thread to countdown the football season/ending?  ;D [/quote] [/quote] This is sooo painful, but I agree.

[quote name="tigersvoice" post="1039757" timestamp="1314123431"] [quote author=Jay Bilas link=topic=87039.msg1039721#msg1039721 date=1314118227] You guys had a potential 6'5" sophomore move in, that is the son of a Houston area coach....His dad, made him return to Houston after staying in Nederland all summer with his mother, and working out with the kids from Nederland...The kid REALLY wanted to stay in Nederland with his mother, which would have made him eligible to play varsity basketball for the Bulldogs..Yet his dad told him he would not sign the paperwork for him to transfer,told him he would not be eligible anyway, and THEN he accused Nederland coach Brian English of recruiting, which I know is not the case..I really feel for the kid....BUT is the dad REALLY wrong for making his son play for him in Houston? What do you think? [/quote] I think the Dad should do what he think's is best for his Son . . . spiritually, socially and lastly . . . athletically!! [/quote] What about sending him to Silsbee?