did yall hear when joe rogan said franlkin had to lose 20 pounds to make 185....

[Guest baseball25]

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[venom33]

what!  thats not surprising!!  ;D

[silentassasin]

Most of the guys who fight at 185 or higher are cutting weight to get there. I know that guys like Forrest walk around at nearly 220 before they start cutting. BJ weighs way more than 155 before he starts cutting.

Couture probably does not cut since his age is on up there in years but Liddell for sure did.

It is part of the game.

[Guest baseball25]

yeah but what I am saying is like 4 months ago i was saying TITO ortiz has to cut 25 pounds to make weight and there were people on there saying no way you have to lose that much weight and I was like tito walks around 230, and I said alot of these fighters cut 20 pounds to make weight and a person said there is no way they do that..

[silentassasin]

Then that person is stupid and does not really understand what these guys do.

The weight cutting is not the healthiest thing for them to do mind you but it is still allowed and so therefore you have guys like BJ walking around at somewhere nearly 175 or more and will cut down to 155.

Lesnar has to cut to get to the 265 weight limit for heavyweights. I think that he cuts from around 285 now, his first fight he was definitely way more than 285 on fight day.

I personally have cut over 11 pounds in one day just to see if I could do it for a weight loss contest I had going with my brother. I did it and it sucked big time, I was grouchy, tired and so out of it mentally.

I honestly think the weight cutting, along with the amount of fights he had in a short time is what caused the American Frank Lester to lose his fight last night to make the finale of TUF.

Most smart fighters if they know far enough ahead of time will walk around about 10-20 pounds over and then slowly start cutting about 5-6 weeks out so that by the last week they have only a small amount to actually lose. Start eating lighter meals at 5-6 weeks out and then increase the cardio and lose some of the "baby" fat and then cut the water off that last week and it allows you that whole day before to carb load and rehydrate yourself.

[silentassasin]

Oh and I read through all of Chazz's ramblings. That dude is stupid. I was a wrestler and have coached it and know for a fact that these guys cut weight. Now I don't know if Silva is cutting nearly 40 pounds to make 185 like you suggested but he is definitely walking around on fight day bigger than 185, when he fought James Irvin he was every bit as big as Irvin was and Irvin is not a small 205 pounder. Silva probably walks around normally abour 210 or so and then cuts down to 185. Like I said I did 11 pounds in a day, it sucked but it can be done.

Reinhold needs to get a clue. Yes he is right about not backing an arguement with a forum discussion, but I have known wrestlers and boxers both who admitted to me that they cut weight to make a class.

The thing is that if you are taking Anderson Silva for example. Silva is probably at about 200-210 with a body fat % pre-fight of around 10-12%. What he will then do is start cutting out some of the foods he needs to to lower his body weight slowly while drinking tons of water. Then he can get his weight down to around 195 about 3-4 weeks out and only have to take off 9 pounds to make the weight class which he can do easily in a day if need be.

If weight cutting was not something that these fighters all do and most walk around at much bigger weights than the general public realize then look at the reality show TUF. The guys on that show are constantly having to sit in the sauna in the rubber suits to make weight. Does every fighter do it, no. A lot of them don't have to make drastic cuts but the fighters who feel like they can have an advantage over their opponent by say walking around at 205 and then cutting at the last minute water weight and making 185, then rehydrating the entire day and up to the fight and then entering the cage close to 20 pounds heavier and stronger then they will.

It is the same mentality as athletes who use performance enhancers.

[Guest baseball25]

I am just saying what I read you know I mean if you type on google anderson silva walking weight it says 220 to 225 so who knows but i know most fighters walk around 20 pounds heavier usually, chaz is dumb