EagleFan1982 Posted 10 hours ago Report Posted 10 hours ago Can both things be true?? Coach Simper has done a good job and Coach Abseck be a good leader. They do not have to be exclusive. If you go back and look, people thought he got a raw deal when he "left" BH. But Coach Simper has come in and picked up what Coach Abseck left at BH and done a good job. New DC probably helps that situation quite a bit. The poster earlier talked about the late game losses and leads blown.... well, the defense has to allow those points as well. But I digress.... Maybe you are right, maybe Lufkin will do a good job and hire a good replacement. I hope that they do. I remember when Lufkin was a powerhouse. It would be great to see them return to those days. When I went to watch them play New Caney, there was almost nobody in the stands. It reminded me of when we used to play the Baytown schools. Sad deal. I always said that the kids deserve the support. Lufkin used to travel like PNG. Hopefully the new hire can restore that sense of pride. Good Luck Lufkin. LufkinPack 1 Quote
LufkinPack Posted 9 hours ago Report Posted 9 hours ago 34 minutes ago, EagleFan1982 said: Can both things be true?? Coach Simper has done a good job and Coach Abseck be a good leader. They do not have to be exclusive. If you go back and look, people thought he got a raw deal when he "left" BH. But Coach Simper has come in and picked up what Coach Abseck left at BH and done a good job. New DC probably helps that situation quite a bit. The poster earlier talked about the late game losses and leads blown.... well, the defense has to allow those points as well. But I digress.... Maybe you are right, maybe Lufkin will do a good job and hire a good replacement. I hope that they do. I remember when Lufkin was a powerhouse. It would be great to see them return to those days. When I went to watch them play New Caney, there was almost nobody in the stands. It reminded me of when we used to play the Baytown schools. Sad deal. I always said that the kids deserve the support. Lufkin used to travel like PNG. Hopefully the new hire can restore that sense of pride. Good Luck Lufkin. The lack of fans started under Quick. It’s funny to me how the admin here allowed quick and his staff to run the football program down for so long but run Abseck off the first sign of adversity LOL. The biggest knock I have on Absecks tenure is the lack of discipline. To allow kids to chant gestures at opposing teams and adults is pathetic. I understand the majority of that was probably one particular coaches fault and not Absecks, but when you’re the man in charge it’s your job to get ahold of that crap. I’ve never been more embarrassed as a Lufkin fan as I was at Laporte Friday. That was pitiful and that was the first matchup we’ve ever had with those guys. Lufkin will forever be the ghetto school in their eyes from here forward. We used to kick people’s teeth in all over the state with discipline. Quote
Barbers Hill 2020-2024 Posted 9 hours ago Report Posted 9 hours ago 1 hour ago, EagleFan1982 said: Can both things be true?? Coach Simper has done a good job and Coach Abseck be a good leader. They do not have to be exclusive. If you go back and look, people thought he got a raw deal when he "left" BH. But Coach Simper has come in and picked up what Coach Abseck left at BH and done a good job. New DC probably helps that situation quite a bit. The poster earlier talked about the late game losses and leads blown.... well, the defense has to allow those points as well. But I digress.... Maybe you are right, maybe Lufkin will do a good job and hire a good replacement. I hope that they do. I remember when Lufkin was a powerhouse. It would be great to see them return to those days. When I went to watch them play New Caney, there was almost nobody in the stands. It reminded me of when we used to play the Baytown schools. Sad deal. I always said that the kids deserve the support. Lufkin used to travel like PNG. Hopefully the new hire can restore that sense of pride. Good Luck Lufkin. When it comes to those late game leads, I don’t put all the blame on Abseck and the staff. A lot of us didn’t play the best every down. I’ll specifically talk about the Richland game since I happened to be a senior that year and that was our last game ever so it’s the one we talk about the most and have to live with the most. We made some mistakes for sure, a bad interception on the opening drive, and a wide open dropped TD on a trick play, just to name a couple. But there was also some obvious coaching errors involved. Michael Turner ran for over 300 yards on us. Run defense needed to be better, but coaching really didn’t try to fix it, they just ran the same personnels out there hoping it would change the result. Offense got way too stagnant playcalling wise, we were a passing team did the typical “1st down run, 2nd down run, 3rd down pass” with a lead which caused us to be way too predictable. In an ideal situation, we just run the ball well and keep the clock moving and move on to Forney in round 3, unfortunately it didn’t happen. Like I said, both the players and the coaches were at fault. The one that forever haunts us is the nightmare call to go for 2 in OT instead of the extra point. The playcall (a quick flat) got immediately jammed and just nothing else was there to save the play. Like I said, it’s not all on Abseck, I still respect him, I went through a really tough situation sophomore and junior year that he helped tremendously to get me through. But it wasn’t perfect. I hope he can find success where he goes next, I just wanted to give a sorta “former BH player” perspective on this scenario. And yes, I can unfortunately say that player discipline was an issue here too. We had fights break out after our playoff losses to Mansfield Timberview and Richland (was not part of any myself though). Quote
Barbers Hill 2020-2024 Posted 8 hours ago Report Posted 8 hours ago At the end of the day, I’d still say that most of us enjoyed Abseck and believed in him and that he is a really really good person. Just has some coaching flaws that have costed him over the years. I think most of us in Mont Belvieu still root for him. Even if a lot of us were disappointed in how our last 3 seasons ended. (his first season was pretty awesome still, we exceeded expectations by upsetting Fort Bend Marshall in the playoffs and even put up hard fights against Crosby, PNG, and A&M Consolidated). He’s won a state championship before and been to another, so he clearly can do it. Just hope he can find his right place to pull it off again. Quote
ponderossa220 Posted 4 hours ago Report Posted 4 hours ago 5 hours ago, EagleFan1982 said: Can both things be true?? Coach Simper has done a good job and Coach Abseck be a good leader. They do not have to be exclusive. If you go back and look, people thought he got a raw deal when he "left" BH. But Coach Simper has come in and picked up what Coach Abseck left at BH and done a good job. New DC probably helps that situation quite a bit. The poster earlier talked about the late game losses and leads blown.... well, the defense has to allow those points as well. But I digress.... Maybe you are right, maybe Lufkin will do a good job and hire a good replacement. I hope that they do. I remember when Lufkin was a powerhouse. It would be great to see them return to those days. When I went to watch them play New Caney, there was almost nobody in the stands. It reminded me of when we used to play the Baytown schools. Sad deal. I always said that the kids deserve the support. Lufkin used to travel like PNG. Hopefully the new hire can restore that sense of pride. Good Luck Lufkin. Lufkin has a YouTube channel that broadcasts all games now, that leads to fans not going to games Quote
Pack007 Posted 44 minutes ago Report Posted 44 minutes ago 16 hours ago, LufkinPack said: Thank you. PNG hit paydirt when they hired Joseph. I’ve wanted Lufkin to so bad try and go get Jamie Driskell from Malakoff for years. I was the one that mentioned Jamie years ago on the Lp forum….. I thought he or the coach from Ruston would be a good fit. But unsure now. He likes it in Malakoff and we decided (if it’s true) not to pick the Ruston coach last time. Definitely don’t want Ralph or Alton. But it is what it is. I’m not the one selecting the new guy. Just hope they make a good choice. I did like Abseck, but he made his choice. Quote
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