The event was called Big Red MANIA, not "madness" Maybe that's why it lacked the atmosphere of a midnight madness event. Most schools stopped doing midnight madness type events several years ago, only a few big schools have the fan base to justify it. I'm a student and talking to the SGA people I know, (who helped put it together), the event was desigened as a student based pep rally. In that case the event was very successfull, the crowd was energetic and Loud. There where times when things stumbled, but this is the events first year and I still think the event will help to bring alot more students out to the games. So the idea was for the students to get to know the faces of the athletes, learn some cheers, get excited about the athletic program, and have a good time, I think all of that was acheived. I guess our friend oldtimer didn't understand what the event was suppossed to be, but regardless I don't understand how you can say something like "It is no wonder we we can't build a program in this area." that's just not true, we are building great sports programs at lamar, if you had being listening when the other teams were introduced you would know that. After four years of watching the team this basketball program is ready to go over the top I think.