Well, I have a son coming up in the LL system at Groves and got to watch both teams, last years and this years, as I am happy for any teams from Groves that do well. But the pitching does not compare. There is no real No.1 starter on this years team as Scalpem states. Plus, I would take all five or six pitchers Groves used last year over any of them this year. Not to bash this years team as they won district so they must be pretty good, but since this is a forum those are my two cents. Last years team - 15 This years team - 0 - if they were able to play against each other ( I think I saw Hernandez's ball he hit the other night orbit the moon)