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[quote name="westend1" post="749958" timestamp="1264545893"] [quote author=injun link=topic=61122.msg749935#msg749935 date=1264541880] [quote author=SWB link=topic=61122.msg749884#msg749884 date=1264538933] [quote author=injun link=topic=61122.msg749837#msg749837 date=1264535709] Who decided that we all have to be trophy hunters??? I hunt public land , and was forced to pass up at least 5 bucks that were too small this season....Does everyone believe that every deer has the genetics to become a trophy deer with a 20" or even a 14-15" spread if allowed to age???? I have been hunting for over 40 years and I am positive I have seen deer that were 4 or 5 years old that had an antler spread less than 13".. I realize this is probably the exception rather than the rule but what will happen to these deer?? (The only thing that legally can, they die of old age..)    How many kids' (or adults for that matter) first buck was a 4 point, which at that time was a "Bonified trophy" to that individual...                                                                     This is just my 2 cents [/quote] Your entire statement is exactly why the state had to step in. Thank You TPWD !! [/quote]It's people like you that I don't understand...You saying we should all be trophy hunters because that is what you want to be??? Hopefully your son or grandson will be one who shoots a "spike" that has a hidden kicker point on the bottom of each antler and you get to pay the ticket for it.. I did fail to mention I did not want to shoot any of these bucks I saw this year , but it is the fact that I could not even if I wanted to... [/quote] You can't keep a 12" trout or an 18" redfish either.  Does it bother you that they are also making you a trophy fisherman?  It's good for the herd.    Isn't that reason enough? [/quote]Send an Email to Chester Moore and ask his opinion on this subject...To answer your question yes is does bother me, but I can and do throw undersized fish back (alive). Not an option with a 12 3/4" deer that looks like a legal deer at 150 yards from a side veiw crossing an opening . I hunt National Forest land (MY CHOICE) in a tree climber with no feeder to stop him and watch him eat corn while I decide if he is big enough...Would you think it is better for "the herd" to keep (10)  24" breeding trout or (10) -14" fish.... For the record I released 4 speckled trout that were between 26 -28" this past spring..Your talking apples and oranges here..

[quote name="SWB" post="749884" timestamp="1264538933"] [quote author=injun link=topic=61122.msg749837#msg749837 date=1264535709] Who decided that we all have to be trophy hunters??? I hunt public land , and was forced to pass up at least 5 bucks that were too small this season....Does everyone believe that every deer has the genetics to become a trophy deer with a 20" or even a 14-15" spread if allowed to age???? I have been hunting for over 40 years and I am positive I have seen deer that were 4 or 5 years old that had an antler spread less than 13".. I realize this is probably the exception rather than the rule but what will happen to these deer?? (The only thing that legally can, they die of old age..)    How many kids' (or adults for that matter) first buck was a 4 point, which at that time was a "Bonified trophy" to that individual...                                                                     This is just my 2 cents [/quote] Your entire statement is exactly why the state had to step in. Thank You TPWD !! [/quote]It's people like you that I don't understand...You saying we should all be trophy hunters because that is what you want to be??? Hopefully your son or grandson will be one who shoots a "spike" that has a hidden kicker point on the bottom of each antler and you get to pay the ticket for it.. I did fail to mention I did not want to shoot any of these bucks I saw this year , but it is the fact that I could not even if I wanted to...

Who decided that we all have to be trophy hunters??? I hunt public land , and was forced to pass up at least 5 bucks that were too small this season....Does everyone believe that every deer has the genetics to become a trophy deer with a 20" or even a 14-15" spread if allowed to age???? I have been hunting for over 40 years and I am positive I have seen deer that were 4 or 5 years old that had an antler spread less than 13".. I realize this is probably the exception rather than the rule but what will happen to these deer?? (The only thing that legally can, they die of old age..)    How many kids' (or adults for that matter) first buck was a 4 point, which at that time was a "Bonified trophy" to that individual...                                                                    This is just my 2 cents

[quote name="injun" post="707122" timestamp="1258177270"] [quote author=injunfan21 link=topic=62369.msg707117#msg707117 date=1258177198] maybe so..but the team they played was 2-8 [/quote]Good point I think they were 3-7.. Still pretty bad any way you look at it [/quote]You were correct Injun fan.. Manor was 2-8 in the reg season

[quote name="injunfan21" post="707117" timestamp="1258177198"] maybe so..but the team they played was 2-8 [/quote]Good point I think they were 3-7.. Still pretty bad any way you look at it

I don't have a prediction on this one. So I'll just say go Pirates

[quote name="rykerx144" post="707109" timestamp="1258177007"] yes Brenham 49 Manor 14 [/quote]Sounds like Brenham knows how to put points on the scoreboard

Not sure it will be Brenham , but more than likely than not

Can the Indians handle the Blue Bell boys

What did I miss???? What does this thread title mean

Just a few distridt stats...Central averages 31.6 points per game scored                                   Central averages 19.5 points allowed per game                                   PN-G averages 31.5 points per game scored                                   PN-G averages 12.9 points allowed per game

The Vidor runners are doing this against anywhere from 7 to 10 defenders in the box against them...   Now that is very impressive

[quote name="Lost in Leakey" post="697403" timestamp="1257385853"] Kendal Briles did not impress me vs Denton Ryan in 2000 Semifinals.  He was under constant pressure and did not have much of a chance to make plays. The final was Denton Ryan 55 Wolfforth Frenship 22.  Briles signed with UT and went on to play safety for his Dad at Houston. [/quote]You must have missed the Stevenville - PNG 1999 Final game

[quote name="ndn78" post="697133" timestamp="1257369488"] What ever happen to Kendell Briles? Best dang one man show I ever saw! [/quote]Amen brother...Almost like UT Vince Young in Championship  beating USC

[quote name="SgtRey" post="696376" timestamp="1257302792"] Where you from Itch? [/quote]Sounds like he's from never never land

[quote name="BHFAN" post="696208" timestamp="1257295676"] [quote author=injun link=topic=61613.msg696191#msg696191 date=1257294805] [quote author=Ranger83 link=topic=61613.msg696080#msg696080 date=1257285230] [quote author=akifan94 link=topic=61613.msg696067#msg696067 date=1257284026] just to back up my point.... Ch School Rating Sched Offense [b]Defense[/b] Power Note 0 Lake Travis  2.59 (1)  32.72 (7)  59.36 (1)  22.53 (4)  59.97 (1)     0 Longview  2.36 (2)  36.92 (2)  53.21 (4)  23.04 (2)  54.34 (2)     1 John H Guyer  2.21 (3)  27.87 (36)  55.03 (3)  16.47 (21)  49.58 (3)     -1 Waxahachie  2.18 (4)  32.17 (10)  50.52 (8)  19.33 (6)  47.93 (5)     0 Highland Park (Dallas) 2.09 (5)  30.85 (14)  56.17 (2)  13.69 (48)  47.93 (4)     0 Angleton  2.08 (6)  29.67 (22)  51.27 (7)  16.46 (22)  45.81 (6)     0 Midway (Waco) 1.85 (7)  28.74 (29)  39.14 (42)  25.36 (1)  42.59 (8)     1 Stephenville  1.85 (8)  29.10 (27)  43.93 (22)  22.54 (3)  44.55 (7)     -1 Lake Dallas  1.85 (9)  30.07 (21)  46.96 (15)  15.63 (29)  40.67 (10)     0 Birdville  1.77 (10)  18.81 (105)  50.33 (9)  10.86 (64)  39.27 (17)     7 Cooper Abilene 1.75 (11)  33.48 (6)  47.15 (14)  15.95 (26)  41.18 (9)     4 El Campo  1.73 (12)  23.14 (69)  45.20 (20)  17.36 (16)  40.65 (11)     0 Newman Smith  1.73 (13)  27.35 (38)  47.49 (13)  15.02 (39)  40.59 (13)     -2 Aledo  1.70 (14)  21.73 (84)  43.50 (25)  19.02 (10)  40.61 (12)     8 Marshall  1.70 (15)  32.47 (9)  48.87 (11)  13.05 (52)  40.00 (15)     1 Denison  1.69 (16)  20.31 (95)  48.64 (12)  13.09 (51)  39.81 (16)     -3 Billy Ryan  1.68 (17)  22.49 (73)  51.57 (5)  9.18 (84)  38.83 (18)     2 Big Spring  1.67 (18)  22.11 (78)  43.92 (23)  16.42 (23)  38.41 (20)     -4 Port Neches-Groves  1.66 (19)  21.62 (85)  37.75 (58)  [b]19.11 (8)[/b]  34.94 (26)   8th best statistical defense in the state. [Hidden Content] For some reason an 8 shows up as a smiley face. [/quote] Apples and oranges! Reminds me of a Sesame Street song, "One of these things is not like the others....." PNG is good, but not in the same league with the likes of Lake Travis, etc...Don't let a little "purple pride" cloud your judgement. [/quote]And You Know this how???? [/quote] Question is why dont you know???? Do you think PNG can beat Lake Travis? [/quote]I have know idea..I have not seen Lake Travis play anyone...Unless they played each other how would anyone know...

[quote name="stevieray" post="696083" timestamp="1257285429"] [quote author=Ranger83 link=topic=61613.msg696080#msg696080 date=1257285230] [quote author=akifan94 link=topic=61613.msg696067#msg696067 date=1257284026] just to back up my point.... Ch School Rating Sched Offense [b]Defense[/b] Power Note 0 Lake Travis  2.59 (1)  32.72 (7)  59.36 (1)  22.53 (4)  59.97 (1)     0 Longview  2.36 (2)  36.92 (2)  53.21 (4)  23.04 (2)  54.34 (2)     1 John H Guyer  2.21 (3)  27.87 (36)  55.03 (3)  16.47 (21)  49.58 (3)     -1 Waxahachie  2.18 (4)  32.17 (10)  50.52 (8)  19.33 (6)  47.93 (5)     0 Highland Park (Dallas) 2.09 (5)  30.85 (14)  56.17 (2)  13.69 (48)  47.93 (4)     0 Angleton  2.08 (6)  29.67 (22)  51.27 (7)  16.46 (22)  45.81 (6)     0 Midway (Waco) 1.85 (7)  28.74 (29)  39.14 (42)  25.36 (1)  42.59 (8)     1 Stephenville  1.85 (8)  29.10 (27)  43.93 (22)  22.54 (3)  44.55 (7)     -1 Lake Dallas  1.85 (9)  30.07 (21)  46.96 (15)  15.63 (29)  40.67 (10)     0 Birdville  1.77 (10)  18.81 (105)  50.33 (9)  10.86 (64)  39.27 (17)     7 Cooper Abilene 1.75 (11)  33.48 (6)  47.15 (14)  15.95 (26)  41.18 (9)     4 El Campo  1.73 (12)  23.14 (69)  45.20 (20)  17.36 (16)  40.65 (11)     0 Newman Smith  1.73 (13)  27.35 (38)  47.49 (13)  15.02 (39)  40.59 (13)     -2 Aledo  1.70 (14)  21.73 (84)  43.50 (25)  19.02 (10)  40.61 (12)     8 Marshall  1.70 (15)  32.47 (9)  48.87 (11)  13.05 (52)  40.00 (15)     1 Denison  1.69 (16)  20.31 (95)  48.64 (12)  13.09 (51)  39.81 (16)     -3 Billy Ryan  1.68 (17)  22.49 (73)  51.57 (5)  9.18 (84)  38.83 (18)     2 Big Spring  1.67 (18)  22.11 (78)  43.92 (23)  16.42 (23)  38.41 (20)     -4 Port Neches-Groves  1.66 (19)  21.62 (85)  37.75 (58)  [b]19.11 (8)[/b]  34.94 (26)   8th best statistical defense in the state. [Hidden Content] For some reason an 8 shows up as a smiley face. [/quote] Apples and oranges! Reminds me of a Sesame Street song, "One of these things is not like the others....." PNG is good, but not in the same league with the likes of Lake Travis, etc...Don't let a little "purple pride" cloud your judgement. [/quote] There is only 2 teams in the state that could beat Lake Travis.....Denton Guyer and Longview [/quote]So its almost a sure thing for them to win State...That must be a good feeling, having The State Championship in the bag when the regular season is not even over

[quote name="Ranger83" post="696080" timestamp="1257285230"] [quote author=akifan94 link=topic=61613.msg696067#msg696067 date=1257284026] just to back up my point.... Ch School Rating Sched Offense [b]Defense[/b] Power Note 0 Lake Travis  2.59 (1)  32.72 (7)  59.36 (1)  22.53 (4)  59.97 (1)     0 Longview  2.36 (2)  36.92 (2)  53.21 (4)  23.04 (2)  54.34 (2)     1 John H Guyer  2.21 (3)  27.87 (36)  55.03 (3)  16.47 (21)  49.58 (3)     -1 Waxahachie  2.18 (4)  32.17 (10)  50.52 (8)  19.33 (6)  47.93 (5)     0 Highland Park (Dallas) 2.09 (5)  30.85 (14)  56.17 (2)  13.69 (48)  47.93 (4)     0 Angleton  2.08 (6)  29.67 (22)  51.27 (7)  16.46 (22)  45.81 (6)     0 Midway (Waco) 1.85 (7)  28.74 (29)  39.14 (42)  25.36 (1)  42.59 (8)     1 Stephenville  1.85 (8)  29.10 (27)  43.93 (22)  22.54 (3)  44.55 (7)     -1 Lake Dallas  1.85 (9)  30.07 (21)  46.96 (15)  15.63 (29)  40.67 (10)     0 Birdville  1.77 (10)  18.81 (105)  50.33 (9)  10.86 (64)  39.27 (17)     7 Cooper Abilene 1.75 (11)  33.48 (6)  47.15 (14)  15.95 (26)  41.18 (9)     4 El Campo  1.73 (12)  23.14 (69)  45.20 (20)  17.36 (16)  40.65 (11)     0 Newman Smith  1.73 (13)  27.35 (38)  47.49 (13)  15.02 (39)  40.59 (13)     -2 Aledo  1.70 (14)  21.73 (84)  43.50 (25)  19.02 (10)  40.61 (12)     8 Marshall  1.70 (15)  32.47 (9)  48.87 (11)  13.05 (52)  40.00 (15)     1 Denison  1.69 (16)  20.31 (95)  48.64 (12)  13.09 (51)  39.81 (16)     -3 Billy Ryan  1.68 (17)  22.49 (73)  51.57 (5)  9.18 (84)  38.83 (18)     2 Big Spring  1.67 (18)  22.11 (78)  43.92 (23)  16.42 (23)  38.41 (20)     -4 Port Neches-Groves  1.66 (19)  21.62 (85)  37.75 (58)  [b]19.11 (8)[/b]  34.94 (26)   8th best statistical defense in the state. [Hidden Content] For some reason an 8 shows up as a smiley face. [/quote] Apples and oranges! Reminds me of a Sesame Street song, "One of these things is not like the others....." PNG is good, but not in the same league with the likes of Lake Travis, etc...Don't let a little "purple pride" cloud your judgement. [/quote]And You Know this how????

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="696181" timestamp="1257293886"] [quote author=pngfan66 link=topic=61600.msg696176#msg696176 date=1257292955] I'm curious if the coaches of both teams will pull their starters later in the game to hopefully avoid injuries. I know this game means alot to both teams but just wondering what others think about it. Oh and by the way GO INDIANS !!!!! [/quote]I asked that earlier in the thread.  Since it means so much for the kids, both teams may go all out for this one.. Unless it turns out ugly for one of the teams... [/quote]I don,t see this one getting ugly..Should be a great game but I've got to go win my Indians 27-20...

[quote name="~old_wildcat~" post="695876" timestamp="1257274084"] [quote author=injun link=topic=61804.msg695873#msg695873 date=1257273961] Harmon has more than 1400 yards.. Not sure of exact number [/quote] How Many Carries Does He Have...Over 200 I believe,I Could Be Wrong.. [/quote]Your probably right, he gets about 20 or more per game..I don't think he has near the TD's as your guy has either...

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="695418" timestamp="1257222105"] Actually Liltex is right. If Livingston and Lumberton get in the playoffs, then PNG will go Div.I and play either Crosby or GC Memorial depending on the outcome of their game with Central. PNG only goes Div.II if 2 of these 3 teams make the playoffs, Central, Nederland, and Vidor. Central is already in and with them being the largest school in the district, they go Div.I. Nederland and/or Vidor have to make the playoffs to send PNG to Div.II. PNG is the 4th largest school in the district. Like Liltex said, if Livingston, Ozen, and/or Lumberton replace Nederland and Vidor as playoff teams, PNG will go Div.I [/quote]Sorry to bust your bubble, but Lumberton or Livingston will not play after this Friday Night

Harmon has more than 1400 yards.. Not sure of exact number

I think nederland pulls this one out..Held all but PNG and Central to 20 points or less.   Only defense to hold PNG to less than 27 points in 20 4A play

Like I said last week If Nederland beats Vidor it throws a real kink in playoff scenario....   Pretty simple if Ned and Vidor win this week they are in..Either team loses it opens the door for Ozen

Vidor 21-13