Dayton (45) @ Nederland (0) - FINAL

[Bigdog]

37 minutes ago, spidersal said:

I am still wondering where all this talent is that Nederland fans have been raving about

1-4 and looking very much like a JV team, being blown out in the 4 losses

I would love for someone to let us know where all this talent is!

In fact someone said that I was ignorant on talent. Seems that he must have mistaken me for himself!

It’s there,  they are young and haven’t learned how to play at the varsity level yet.  Some of that is on them some on the coaches.  Hopefully they can make that next step sometime this season or in the offseason and next year.

[Reagan]

Nederland had 4th and 3 or 4 to go on their own 32 yard line and went for it.  Didn't make it.  Dayton took it in for another score.

OK, opinion time:   Was this a bonehead coaching decision or a brilliant coaching decision?  

[spidersal]

Have 2 more chances for wins this year SF and GP

Getting a little tired of the young excuse, 2 scrimmages and 5 games, but little, if any improvement 

[spidersal]

I don’t know, but hit the guy playing a receiver position right in the hands. Receiver, QB, and secondary positions are simply weak

[A BUC 77]

I wouldn’t say he’s weak.  Early development stage is more accurate.  He’s got to protect the ball.  
I was at the game as well.  Well till halftime.  Going for it on fourth and short on our side of the field, is kinda of a chance Monty has to take.  Not wrong or right.  With this team he’s desperately trying to find the right buttons.

[TommyShep]

3 hours ago, Reagan said:

Nederland had 4th and 3 or 4 to go on their own 32 yard line and went for it.  Didn't make it.  Dayton took it in for another score.

OK, opinion time:   Was this a bonehead coaching decision or a brilliant coaching decision?  

The WR dropped an easy TD on that play, so I’d say the play call was correct.. players have to make the plays that are available. 

[dme1111]

I think Dayton has a legitimate shot at winning the district. Their O-line is huge.  They have a legit  QB. They have a legit RB. They have a couple of good WR.  Their defense is tenacious.   

[Red Boyou]

23 minutes ago, dme1111 said:

I think Dayton has a legitimate shot at winning the district. Their O-line is huge.  They have a legit  QB. They have a legit RB. They have a couple of good WR.  Their defense is tenacious.   

They seem to get a little better each week but with that being said the tough part of the schedule is coming up so we'll see how good they really are. Hopefully everyone stays healthy.

[spidersal]

Dayton will not beat Marshall, PNG, and TC. However playoffs with 4-3 district

Nederland anywhere from 5th at 3-7 to dead last 1-9

2 miserable years in a row. Starting to show how losing creates losing

coaching and talent level are bad. Could result in several bad years at Bulldog land

[dme1111]

11 minutes ago, spidersal said:

Dayton will not beat Marshall, PNG, and TC. However playoffs with 4-3 district

Nederland anywhere from 5th at 3-7 to dead last 1-9

2 miserable years in a row. Starting to show how losing creates losing

coaching and talent level are bad. Could result in several bad years at Bulldog land

SHHH....  You will be crucified if you speak ill of our little nepotistic paradise.  

[Reagan]

20 hours ago, TommyShep said:

The WR dropped an easy TD on that play, so I’d say the play call was correct.. players have to make the plays that are available. 

I appreciate your reply.  But, the play wasn't the question.  The question was was it the right "decision" to go for it on 4th down on your on 32?  I'll repeat:  "OK, opinion time:   Was this a bonehead coaching decision or a brilliant coaching decision?" 

You have an opinion on the "decision?"

[prepballfan]

Hats off Dayton. Its been a long time coming. I have always believed that Nederland and Dayton having winning programs is good for our area. The tougher the district the better the playoffs teams will be. Best of luck to both teams.

[workbootz]

Coach Ware said give him 3 years and he was gonna turn the program around.  He did just what he said!!

[KF89]

14 hours ago, workbootz said:

Coach Ware said give him 3 years and he was gonna turn the program around.  He did just what he said!!

Dayton has a solid team this year. Good offense, good defense, good special teams & executed well. Respect to Coach Ware & his staff. Nederland did not show up at all for this game, looked like they were more focused on the homecoming festivities.  

[jake94]

On 10/1/2022 at 8:56 PM, spidersal said:

Dayton will not beat Marshall, PNG, and TC. However playoffs with 4-3 district

Nederland anywhere from 5th at 3-7 to dead last 1-9

2 miserable years in a row. Starting to show how losing creates losing

coaching and talent level are bad. Could result in several bad years at Bulldog land

I will wager that Dayton beats either TC or PNG.

[Reagan]

24 minutes ago, jake94 said:

I will wager that Dayton beats either TC or PNG.

But -- both TC and PNG are better coached than Nederland!  So...

[Red Boyou]

3 hours ago, jake94 said:

I will wager that Dayton beats either TC or PNG.

With the athletes Dayton has I personally think Dayton has a good chance of beating both of them (barring injuries) if the defense continues to improve.

[jayhawk]

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     Daytons QB makes our offense click !

[Rez Ipsa]

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     Daytons QB makes our offense click !

Nederland players look deflated, timid. Unsure of even where to line up. No enthusiasm. I haven’t believed they were so far gone as a lot of posters are saying, since I haven’t seen them play this year and I couldn’t believe Nederland has this kind of problem. But they look like they don’t even want to be on the field. 

[biaplayer]

On 10/3/2022 at 7:05 PM, Red Boyou said:

With the athletes Dayton has I personally think Dayton has a good chance of beating both of them (barring injuries) if the defense continues to improve.

Well we shall see next week, seems like Dayton is rolling under their  new coaching staff. But playing the bottom feeders will inflate the ego. But I have seen stranger things happen. We have alot of injuries right now beat up pretty good but battle tested and ready to go. Hopefully after we beat Willoridge we will have no injuries and our players coming back healthy, if not the backups will just have to continue what they started and play hard nosed football. I am eager to see Dayton come next week. Hope the weather continues to stay perfect. 

[jayhawk]

5 hours ago, biaplayer said:

Well we shall see next week, seems like Dayton is rolling under their  new coaching staff. But playing the bottom feeders will inflate the ego. But I have seen stranger things happen. We have alot of injuries right now beat up pretty good but battle tested and ready to go. Hopefully after we beat Willoridge we will have no injuries and our players coming back healthy, if not the backups will just have to continue what they started and play hard nosed football. I am eager to see Dayton come next week. Hope the weather continues to stay perfect. 

I can't see where anybody from Dayton has an inflated ego ? Might be a little excited about winning and think we can hang with PNG if anything you might have an inflated ego with the way your always slighting Dayton after they win a game. Like I said be patient when the Broncos roll into town you might be surprised.  Good luck and we hope to play a healthy PNG.

[Reagan]

5 hours ago, biaplayer said:

Well we shall see next week, seems like Dayton is rolling under their  new coaching staff. But playing the bottom feeders will inflate the ego. But I have seen stranger things happen. We have alot of injuries right now beat up pretty good but battle tested and ready to go. Hopefully after we beat Willoridge we will have no injuries and our players coming back healthy, if not the backups will just have to continue what they started and play hard nosed football. I am eager to see Dayton come next week. Hope the weather continues to stay perfect. 

True.   I know it looked like Dayton was playing against a JR High coach.   But, regardless -- I could tell that Dayton was well coached.   

BTW -- did anyone notice when the Nederland player got hurt, the Dayton cheerleaders and all the players took a knee?!  I looked at Nederland and they did nothing!  Could show Dayton!

[2wedge]

16 hours ago, jayhawk said:

I can't see where anybody from Dayton has an inflated ego ? Might be a little excited about winning and think we can hang with PNG if anything you might have an inflated ego with the way your always slighting Dayton after they win a game. Like I said be patient when the Broncos roll into town you might be surprised.  Good luck and we hope to play a healthy PNG.

Short memories on this board forget, it wasn't too long ago that Dayton dominated those golden triangle teams year in and year out. Dayton isn't the new kid on the block, they're the kid that has been down on his luck recently. The culture and expectation is there, now the play and coaching is starting to match what the community requires. Watch them become a power again....it's starting as we speak. 

[KF89]

16 hours ago, Reagan said:

True.   I know it looked like Dayton was playing against a JR High coach.   But, regardless -- I could tell that Dayton was well coached.   

BTW -- did anyone notice when the Nederland player got hurt, the Dayton cheerleaders and all the players took a knee?!  I looked at Nederland and they did nothing!  Could show Dayton!

Let me know when you decide to start going to NISD school board meetings to express the issue that Nederland varsity football is being coached by a junior high level head coach, I would like to witness who & how many don't respect his varsity head coaching abilities. If the Anti Monte Barrow people do not come together, get out in public to spread this mess. to the community there will never be pressure on ole Kieschnick or the school board to make a change you think is needed to better Nederland football. 

[Reagan]

2 hours ago, KF89 said:

Let me know when you decide to start going to NISD school board meetings to express the issue that Nederland varsity football is being coached by a junior high level head coach, I would like to witness who & how many don't respect his varsity head coaching abilities. If the Anti Monte Barrow people do not come together, get out in public to spread this mess. to the community there will never be pressure on ole Kieschnick or the school board to make a change you think is needed to better Nederland football. 

Did you not see the game against Dayton?

Spread this mess?  Are we not seeing the same performance?

And yes, when it's time, I'll be making my opinions known to the school board.  Time is getting nigh!

But, one must remember -- Kiesknick is a home grown individual like the HC is.  Plus even the principal (Neumann's daughter?!) is home grown.  So not sure if they would ever pull the plug.  But, like you said, if there's enough pressure, well, then, maybe some action will be taken.  Again, all of this is my opinion!