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There was a time being 8-0-2 CO District Champs wasn't enough to make playoffs

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20 hours ago, Matthew328 said:

I'd rather 10 teams w/losing records make the playoffs than one unbeaten team miss the playoffs...and I'd definitely prefer to not see games decided on penetrations on God forbid first downs...but thats just me

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1 hour ago, purpleeagle said:

Does having more teams mean more money for UIL ???? 

More teams in the playoffs does mean more money generated for the UIL becasue a portion of the playoff gate does go to the UIL......but lets also remember football money helps fund pretty much every other championship activity that the UIL puts on that doesnt make money..ie academic competitons, one-act play, smaller sports etc

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On 7/28/2022 at 8:09 AM, Matthew328 said:

I'd rather 10 teams w/losing records make the playoffs than one unbeaten team miss the playoffs...and I'd definitely prefer to not see games decided on penetrations on God forbid first downs...but thats just me

I think the history of an unbeaten teams (like 8-0-2 or 9-0-1) missing out was exceedingly rare, but I agree. I would not want to return to a "one team only" format. I think a happy medium is what we need. Two teams per district seems right.  

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On 7/28/2022 at 8:33 AM, AggiesAreWe said:

My main reason for not liking 4 is when 4 teams go out of a 4 or 5 team district. I think you should have at minimum 6 or more teams in a district if you are going to send 4. Or at least make the 4-5 team districts play each other twice for district play. 

I agree, four should not go out of a four team district.

They could make it proportional. 2 could go out of a 4 or 5 team district, 3 go out of a 6-7 team district, and 4 go out of a 8-9 team district. In other words, 50% goes and 50% stays home. If you are not in the top half of your district you do not belong in the playoffs.    

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I may be in the minority here but I like the current system. Last yr Chappell Hill was one play away from going to state after getting 3rd in District. Barbers Hill  knocking off FBM and almost making it to the regional semi. More football has never been a bad thing IMHO especially when you can produce this type of drama and storylines.

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1 hour ago, MrFleet23 said:

I may be in the minority here but I like the current system. Last yr Chappell Hill was one play away from going to state after getting 3rd in District. Barbers Hill  knocking off FBM and almost making it to the regional semi. More football has never been a bad thing IMHO especially when you can produce this type of drama and storylines.

Chapel Hill was 4th in their district....we are never going back to two or even three playoff teams..there's zero chances schools or coaches would support reducing their chances of making the playoffs

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Thats right. No chance at all it goes back to anything but 4 teams per district. 

All coaches with average to slightly above average teams want to boast "Hey we made the playoffs xx times in a row!"

That's exactly why an average of playoff WINS (not just appearances) per year is the best metric. Weak teams who lose in the 1st round are rightfully discounted. Only the number of playoff WINS count. I calculated 0.83 playoff wins per year for some random nameless team (I don't want to hurt sensitive feelings) in the other thread, for example.   

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For those suggesting different number of teams make the playoffs based on the number in the district...how in the world do you set the playoff format?  Some 1st place teams get byes and others don't?   I realize it's more of a justified complaint about undeserving teams getting in, but there is no real way around it.  The 4A issue with small districts simply can't be fixed.  Not enough schools with enrollments in the range without "stealing" from 3A and 5A and thus causing problems for those classifications.   Just threw the last 2 sentences in so people can rip the UIL some more.  

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I have no problem with 4 teams going.  I have a problem with small districts.  There are several circumstances of #4 seeds making runs in the playoffs.  That alone justifies it.

By the way.. record has nothing to do with it. Winning 8/9/10 isn’t always difficult with many of the trash rotten districts in this SeTx coverage area.  Don’t be offended.. if there were more schools making it past area it wouldn’t be the case. 

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9 hours ago, oldschool2 said:

I have no problem with 4 teams going.  I have a problem with small districts.  There are several circumstances of #4 seeds making runs in the playoffs.  That alone justifies it.

By the way.. record has nothing to do with it. Winning 8/9/10 isn’t always difficult with many of the trash rotten districts in this SeTx coverage area.  Don’t be offended.. if there were more schools making it past area it wouldn’t be the case. 

excuse me, pardon me, thank you.

You are aware that District 9 4A DII is the toughest 4A DII District  in the entire state ( according to the fellas on the knowledgeable & popular podcast that post here on the website pretty often).

Js(just saying).........

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2 hours ago, Dirty_but_Dazzling said:

excuse me, pardon me, thank you.

You are aware that District 9 4A DII is the toughest 4A DII District  in the entire state ( according to the folks who work for the leading source of all things football  in Texas).  DCTF 

Js(just saying).........

9-4A D2 this year is pretty damn good..with WOS, SIlsbee and Jasper all back together and if this Hamshire-Fannett team is your 4th place team...well you are cooking with Crisco

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On 7/28/2022 at 8:33 AM, AggiesAreWe said:

I prefer it when only 2 teams went. I was ok with 3 with the district champ receiving a bye. Never been fond of 4 going to playoffs but it is what it is.

My main reason for not liking 4 is when 4 teams go out of a 4 or 5 team district. I think you should have at minimum 6 or more teams in a district if you are going to send 4. Or at least make the 4-5 team districts play each other twice for district play.

Also, I think all district champs in all classifications should host 1st round games. A little incentive to win a district title.

4 seems like the everyone gets a trophy senerio to me as well. 

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9-4A D2 is a really, really good district.

21-6A is awesomely good, maybe the best in the state 

8-5A DI is average, top heavy and bottom weak. Crosby will go FAR (PAM needs to live up to potential) 

9-5A DII is a bit above average

9-3A DI is good

10-4A DI is growing

12-3A DII Newton is the lone power, very well could win State. 

10-3A DI is trash. One of the weakest in the state (its the midget district)  

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On 7/30/2022 at 1:26 PM, BADSANTA said:

3 was best IMO but I csn see 4 now due to revenue and the amount of schools there are in the state. 

If even a single #4 seed beats a #1 seed then it’s justified.. and it happens every year in every sport.  Realistically, the 4 shouldn’t beat a 1 unless the 4 is in a good district or the 1 is in a trash one.  

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