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1 hour ago, bullets13 said:

 

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1 hour ago, bullets13 said:

 

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So your saying children should get the vaccine? Her husband is a investment advisor. I wonder what investments he manages? How many patients did Mrs. Robotti treat this pass year for Covid as opposed to the frontline doctors who actually treated patients? 

They are on tour for people who have questions. Maybe you ought to catch them on one of their stops an ask them some questions. Lol

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Since we’re having a real discussion here, it’s refreshing.  Take the shot.  Don’t take the shot.  Some years back, we could make an educated decision based on the facts.  The saddest part of this whole Covid 💩 (other than the deaths, whatever that number may be), is the evidence that we can no longer trust our Govt, or the “facts” they present us.  

Quite a lot about this I don’t understand.  They stopped giving the J&J shot because of 8 blood clots, then didn’t report that some died from the shot.  Even took the J&J out for a while, yet others dying - No Report - No stop.  Evidently the blood clots got reported by accident, thus they put on the performance of caring.

Based on the above, how can we ever trust the Govt again?  Perhaps that is the saddest part of Covid. 

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3 hours ago, Reagan said:

Articles author:  Suzanne Robotti works at as Independent Publishing Professional...

The head of frontline doctors got arrested in the capital insurrection.  I'd say that adequately calls into question both her sensibility as well as her motivation.  

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3 hours ago, Realville said:

 

So your saying children should get the vaccine? Her husband is a investment advisor. I wonder what investments he manages? How many patients did Mrs. Robotti treat this pass year for Covid as opposed to the frontline doctors who actually treated patients? 

They are on tour for people who have questions. Maybe you ought to catch them on one of their stops an ask them some questions. Lol

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I just thought your "Thank you doctors for speaking out" quote was funny.  Your doc here has no credibility.  She's a political shill.  She's also an anti-vaxx nutter who's been throwing out false and misleading information.  I did not say children should get the vaccine, just pointing out that her argument doesn't have a whole lot of validity.  She's not basing any opinion on "the science", she's just trying to make herself a new career as a political activist (since she got fired based on some of her false info and getting arrested in the capital insurrection).  If I was telling people that it's okay for kids to get the vaccine because it's perfectly safe, I would be dishonest because I do not know that for sure.  She's doing the same thing, just in the other direction.  Intentionally misleading people with fake, doctored, or outdated info.  I know that doesn't bother you because she's saying what you want to hear.  

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1 hour ago, Hagar said:

Since we’re having a real discussion here, it’s refreshing.  Take the shot.  Don’t take the shot.  Some years back, we could make an educated decision based on the facts.  The saddest part of this whole Covid 💩 (other than the deaths, whatever that number may be), is the evidence that we can no longer trust our Govt, or the “facts” they present us.  

Quite a lot about this I don’t understand.  They stopped giving the J&J shot because of 8 blood clots, then didn’t report that some died from the shot.  Even took the J&J out for a while, yet others dying - No Report - No stop.  Evidently the blood clots got reported by accident, thus they put on the performance of caring.

Based on the above, how can we ever trust the Govt again?  Perhaps that is the saddest part of Covid. 

The blood clots should've been a non-issue to be honest.  Women on birth control, smokers, and... people with covid all have a much high risk of those clots.  But yeah, our government can't be trusted much, on either side of the aisle.  

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13 minutes ago, bullets13 said:

I just thought your "Thank you doctors for speaking out" quote was funny.  Your doc here has no credibility.  She's a political shill.  She's also an anti-vaxx nutter who's been throwing out false and misleading information.  I did not say children should get the vaccine, just pointing out that her argument doesn't have a whole lot of validity.  She's not basing any opinion on "the science", she's just trying to make herself a new career as a political activist (since she got fired based on some of her false info and getting arrested in the capital insurrection).  If I was telling people that it's okay for kids to get the vaccine because it's perfectly safe, I would be dishonest because I do not know that for sure.  She's doing the same thing, just in the other direction.  Intentionally misleading people with fake, doctored, or outdated info.  I know that doesn't bother you because she's saying what you want to hear.  

Science, Validity, and Insurrection 😂🤣 

Has Mrs. Robotti ever treated a Covid patient? Second time asking?

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5 minutes ago, bullets13 said:

The blood clots should've been a non-issue to be honest.  Women on birth control, smokers, and... people with covid all have a much high risk of those clots.  But yeah, our government can't be trusted much, on either side of the aisle.  

Well I’ll agree with you on not trusting the Democrats and most Republicans.

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3 hours ago, bullets13 said:

The blood clots should've been a non-issue to be honest.  Women on birth control, smokers, and... people with covid all have a much high risk of those clots.  But yeah, our government can't be trusted much, on either side of the aisle.  

Exactly.  We all know this Vaccine was pushed through.  Most of us are aware no one knows the long term effects.   It’s probably safe, but I wouldn’t want my children taking it.  And the fact we can’t trust our Govt is something I’d hoped we were passed.  I’m still concern about the “full court press” they’re doing on the vaccine.  Do they know something we don’t?   Only time will tell.

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I'm more concerned that enough people won't get vaccinated and instead of controlling the spread, it'll just cause the virus to further mutate and eventually we're forced back into lockdowns.  They've said all long that somewhere between 70-80% would need to be vaccinated for us to develop immunity.

I'm very glad that the internet didn't exist when my parents were kids.  Everybody would have slung half-truths, whole lies, and wild speculations around and we'd still be losing tons of kids to polio every year because nobody would have gotten the vaccination.

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I am 68 years old, have high blood pressure and diabetes, got Covid around Christmas (it was terrible), I survived it and my body has created anti-bodies on its own. Vaccines do exactly that.... make your immune system create anti-bodies. I will take my chances and don’t need to be offered French fries baiting me into getting vaccinated. Everyone else, do what you want to. It’s a free country, at least the last time I checked. 

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