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Well here is my true feeling on the subect. You baseball parents are funny. Most of these threads are stupid, from preseason picks too "who makes an impact". Let the kids figure this out and they will if you let them. Baseball season is a month away and we already have all this talk. The only talk I know is on the playing field. I am just an outsider looking in. I don't have a dog in this fight. I hear all this blah, blah, blah about so and so is the best pitcher or the best hitter. How do we really know? What they did last year means nothing. Each year you have to prove yourself again, thats just life. Even in the work force. They don't care what you did before but what have you done for me lately? The same principal applies for sports. Its sad but its true.

That would get the talk started. Our area has some outstanding lifters every year.

Basketball vs Football From ESPN: Basketball, not football, rules at this Texas school Associated Press BROCK, Texas -- As the Friday night lights shine at most high schools in this football-centric state, the campus in Brock remains silent and dark. "Around here, football is often called the f-word." -- Richard Tedder, schools superintendent in Brock, Texas Even the hint of football has caused some hard feelings in this small town about 40 miles west of Fort Worth. A school board member who favored adding the sport and even offered $100,000 to start the program was voted out and said he was shunned by some for months. "Around here, football is often called the f-word," said Richard Tedder, schools superintendent since 2004. Brock High School, steeped in the tradition of a basketball program nearly 100 years old, is among a handful of schools in Texas' second-smallest classification without a football program. While not alone in its gridiron void, Brock certainly isn't among the majority in a state that boasts nearly 1,200 teams. "It's a rarity," said Dave Campbell, who founded Texas Football magazine and has covered the sport since the early 1950s. Football is "kind of one of the major factors that can unite a town, unite a community." But football has a history of dividing those who live in and around Brock. Residents rejected a football proposal in 1991, but four years later, the school board voted 4-3 in favor of one. "It caused a pretty big rift in the community and led to some new people being elected to the board in the spring," Tedder said. The new board overturned the decision 6-1. Phil Lumsden, who lost his re-election bid after the 1995 vote, said when word got out that he had written a $100,000 check to help start a football program, some people didn't talk to him for months. "Basketball here is what football is to most other schools. The history of Brock really runs through the basketball program." -- Scott Drillette, Brock High School principal "The reason is that they thought it would affect their basketball program and possibly some of the recognition and some of the monies," he said. The superintendent estimated it would cost at least $1.5 million for a stadium and equipment, plus yearly expenses of between $200,000 and $300,000 for coaches' salaries and maintenance. And there might not be enough athletes to go around, Tedder said. "I think the community feels that football may stretch kids to the point that we might not be successful in all our programs," he said. "They don't want to sacrifice tradition for the uncertainty of the success of a football program, and they realize the finances of it." Since the first boys team was formed at the school in 1911, basketball has united Brock. The tradition has only grown deeper in recent years with five state championships among the boys and girls teams since 2002. "Basketball here is what football is to most other schools," said principal Scott Drillette, who moved to Brock from nearby Aledo, a 4A school with a strong football tradition. "The history of Brock really runs through the basketball program." Lumsden said a football team would get more students involved in extracurricular activities at a school that has more than doubled in size in 15 years -- from 113 students to 236. Some of the basketball players "could dribble a ball before they could walk and their families put a lot of time into it, and they wanted their kids to follow in their footsteps," he said. "I don't see anything wrong with that, but you have to do something for those other kids." "State baseball is all that matters [to me] now, because it's going to be a while before we get football." -- Kyle Combs, Brock JV baseball player Anthony Daniell, a sophomore catcher on Brock's junior varsity baseball team, is among the Brock athletes who don't play basketball. He said he and most of his teammates would play football if given the chance because it would be played during baseball's offseason. Several of his teammates used to play youth football in nearby Weatherford but soon outgrew the program, which caters to elementary and middle school students. "That's kind of what you did in Brock because Brock didn't have peewee football. You went to Weatherford and played for the Weatherford Warriors," said Kyle Combs, a junior pitcher on the JV baseball team. "Almost everyone on the team would probably play football." But if history serves as a guide, those players will have to wait. After years of pressure, meetings and petitions, the school board has no plans to add football. "State baseball is all that matters [to me] now, because it's going to be a while before we get football," Combs said. Copyright 2006 by The Associated Press

WOW! your are really dumb....next time you talk you really should think about what you are saying....no reason to be upset that yall lost....

by: OHS_1994 wrote Terry is a great kid, and I would love tou see one of you little punks say any of this to his face. That would be very funny. thanks ohs it means alot to me for you to say that im not really worried about what everyone says about me it aint bothering me it will bother them when i prove them wrong i mean im taking all this in and im gonna go out there and shut their mouths up and show everyone why i made 2nd team pitcher it dont bother me i dont care if they are gonna talk like that thats their problem i will jus show up at the game and when i pitch i will prove all of these sayings wrong so just sit back and relax but thanx for what you said to know that someone knows how i am

No I've only noticed you talking smack about Deweyville, you seriously need to move on. Praise your team, and let the players play the game on the field. Most of the time it's the adults that mess up and talk trash.

has anyone noticed deweyville will talk trash on buna whether they lost got 3rd in district or only scored a touch down its really kinda silly.

he does hit against the front side a lot but he is strong enough to do that. most of big league hitters do hip slide. however we talk about arod being the best player we have seen and will see but over the years his strikeouts are way up and his average is way down. in my opinion it is because he does to much hip sliding. watch pujols he doesnt slide at all this is why he is probably the best player we will ever see and nobody even talks about it. is it because he doesnt make 220 million. i see a lot of things wrong with arods swing and dont think we should be teaching our kids this today. we should build around pujols swing, a strong base and staying behind the ball not lurching at it like arod seems to do.

I went to the WOS at HJ game and the HJ fans are crazy. When that game ended I couldnt even hear myself talk.

i sure wish more highschool lifters would get on this forum so we could talk a little more powerlifting

I got my hands on this footage of the halftime talk in the Cowboys locker room: [Hidden Content]

Come on fellas. I dont post on here but this is ridiculous. Silsbe lost to WOS by 20! HJ has beaten them 2 times in the last two weeks. HJ had a bad night. To say they are not a number 4 ranked team in the state may be true but you cant base your opinion on 1 night. What about HJ beating Lufkin Hudson by 30+ and silsbee barely beats them. Silsbee has great athletes who had a good night. Then the stuff about Sutherland................WOW!!!!!!!!! This guy is arguably the best coach in the area and one of the best in Texas. You guys need to think before you talk! Questioning him is pretty funny............would anyone care for me to post his record?

Good article, but the problem I see is Lamar can not stop living in the past. Everytime anything positive in regards to basketball is spoken they always have to talk about the late 70s and early 80s. The game has changed dramatically since then. Eligibilites and scholarship requirements have changed. Those glory years have dictated the whole sports program including the ultimate demise of football. While we enjoy good high school basketball in the area, the university has done little to bring in "local" flavor to help keep the community interested. Even Jim Gilligan does this in baseball. You look at Northwestern and you had/have the Hancock kids from Kountze playing integral roles. You look at Sam Houston a few years back with Silsbee's own Eddie Fobbs who plays professional ball overseas and tries out for NBA teams. Those teams have had success. To be honest this area is not that high on university basketball. This area is football country.

just like every year you make it out of the golden triangle and yall get beat..people from nederland need to realize that there is football otu side of mid county.. lets talk about this year..you should be proud that your 5-5 team went to the playoffs another year. I wouldnt be proud that a team that what you say is "bad "like us beat yall.. you barely beat LCM and wow the other teams you beat were Lumberton and Ozen..dont forget about yalls sister PNG..You should be proud of that..but what yall fail to realize when yall do make it to the playoffs,yall are suppose to win..not come home the second week every year.. so what you are saying that you are a team that can barely beat weak teams and maybe lose sometimes,But just enough to slide by and get into the Playoffs. You are just happy to do that.. Come back and talk to me when yall do a little something, when yall get there instead of just being happy and that being yalls "superbowl "that yall made it out of the golden triangle.. Wow Nederland made it out of the golden triangle.Woooo!!.but once again realizes that there IS football outside of midcounty!!

Lets talk about this year. You beat us and proceeded to lose then next 5 games. We went on to win 4 of our last 5 games including coming from behind to beat LCM, (one of the teams you lost to) to pretty much secure a playoff spot for the [move]11th straight year.[/move] We then proceeded to go two rounds deep while you sat at home and kept talking about a game that happened six weeks before and had no bearing on the season. Did I get it about right?

you are famous for bringing up when grandpappy played.. why not talk about this year?? why not talk about how lucky yall were to get in??why not talk about how yall got embarrassed when Central came to town??

Warren is a 2A team genius. If your gonna talk about schools in SETX at least know something about them instead of just bashing teams based on their size.

Its ok if you don't like the drill. This kid doing the drill is a starter at a major west coast University. The drill merely allows him to feel how his back hip and leg move in relation to a good lower half. I'm not a fan of a center of body swing. In other words revolving door (like those revolving doors you see in hospital entrances) where the axis is in the middle. I prefer some movement against the frontside, this creates momentum, and having rotation more like a swinging gate (like the gate on a fence or how a door would open to a house). where the axis is the front hip/ leg. Thanks Lucky. Good luck Now lets get back to the Miller clip. Baberuth are you going to discuss the swing and give me your evaluation? TVC, lets talk about what we see in the clip I posted now that it is working.

State Champs & TX Football Magazine Predictions Just thought it would be interesting to look at the Texas Football Magazine predections before the season and see how well the did in predicting the state champions. So here we go. 5A SLC won it all, and were the preseason #2 team. So they did a good job of predicting them. Cedar Hill, the DII champion, wasn't even in the preseason top 25. Interesting to note that Austin Westlake was #6 (lost in DI championship game) and Garland was #3 (Lost in DII Semifinals). Not too bad at the predictions. 4A In Division I, Alamo Heights, the preseason #14, defeated Copperas Cove, The preseason #3. So both of these teams were ranked to begin the season. In Div. II, Waco, the preseason #22, defeated Wolfforth Frenship, the #7 team. So every team to make it to the championship game was in the preseason top 25. Pretty accurate, if you think about it. 3A #1 vs. #3 in the first round of the playoffs. Liberty Eylau won, and won state. If Gilmer wins, do they win state? I want to say yes, but I don't get a vote. But LE's opponent in the championship, Waco Robinson, wasn't even ranked. Neither was the DII state Champion, Liberty Hill. Their opponent Celina was #14. But two of the four teams in the championship games weren't ranked. 2A The closest thing to a sure bet this year was Tatum. Preseason #1 and state champs. But Littlefield came out of nowhere to make the DI finals. In DII, Mart was ranked #16, but their opponent in the championship game wasn't ranked. Again, two of the four teams not ranked. 1A Talk about predicting it. In preseason, 1) Windhorst, 2) Alto, 3) Chilton. Chilton beat Windhorst in the DII final, and Alto won the DI championship. Their opponent, McCamey, was #14 to start the season. So what does this all mean? Well 14 of the 20 teams that played in the finals were ranked in the preseason poll. That's pretty impressive. In 1A, 2A, 3A, and 5A, at least one of the teams in the preaseason top 3 won a state championship. That's very impressive. Of course, some teams came out of "nowhere." There were some unranked teams that won it all, most notably Cedar Hill. But these preseason rankings were a really good indicator of how things would play out. See if anybody else thinks the same way.

Come on Scooter if you need a place to hang in Marshall we can talk. Got to stop and eat some good catfish on BIG PINE LODGE over in Uncertain or Lake of the Pines. Anytime let me know when you are coming and I'm in. Sorry for hijacking the thread Channelview but am glad you won. ;D

This is stupid... Charles is hands down the better RB.... and what goof ball said that if you put Mosely behind the same line as Charles that Mosely will do better.... stupid... please dont talk anymore.. for all of us... and heres some cold and hard facts on the matter....... Charles plays for one of the best Football Programs in the nation.... who was part of the #2 over all incoming class in the nation his freshman year... Mosely is good.. but no Jamal Charles and to say so is stupid and proves how crazy you are by saying it.....

Home court advatage is big from any sporting venue. HD has a reputation of having poor officiating for the visiting team, but that is part of overcoming adversity. It is not in any way criticizing the skill, or heart of any of the HD ball players. After all, the officials are adults, and are supposed to be non-biased proffessionals. It's always an exciting atmosphere at either school when these two teams meet. Don't get offended when people talk about the HD officials. I think kids are still taught to let the coaches worry about the officials, and for the kids to play their heart out. We will see what happens tomm. Should be fun!!!

...What are the formations your teams are going to be running this year???... Have your Coaches been working on situational formations for like when you go down a couple goals or up a couple???... Lets talk some soccer tactics up in this mother!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YES SOME FORMATION TALK!!! The 4-4-2 is in my opinion the jack of all trades formation... how you train on the left side you can mirror that to the right side you have even balance with a flat back 4 or with the swepper stopper roles you can have tremendous counter attack options with the 4-4-2 defensively you can adjust to almost any style of play the 4-4-2 requires strong midfield play with outside mids making strong runs mids must be able to cross the ball in the attacking third!!! defenders must have good communication, knowing when to attack and when to give space fowards must be able work together and know their spacing rules and roles just like all formations, the 4-4-2 has its weak spots...I just think for the high school player it is the easiest to learn on a side note---the US used a 4-5-1 in this world cup with McBride flying solo up front and we all know how well that worked out

Stump wants to be HC, not assistant. All this LU football talk, could we be buying tickets for the fall of 08?