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    marshman reacted to WOSdrummer99 in West Orange Stark job open/HICKMAN APPROVED   
    Definitely not angry. Just amazed how it ended up going down. My tax money has paid for all these bonds and upgrades. Only to have candidates blocked by the Superintendent. And then the board doesn't have the backbone to delay the hire. Even though Hickman won't take the job full time until July.
    I could understand them not listening to me. But when the mayor, who is a former player and assistant, was on the committee and spoke out... board members should have been more willing to wait.
    Trust the process, don't rush the process.
    And for the love of blue and silver, don't rig the process
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    marshman got a reaction from CardinalBacker in West Orange Stark job open/HICKMAN APPROVED   
    You hit the nail on the head. And this is coming from a WO-S graduate and longtime bigtime supporter. But it is what it is... the truth hurts sometimes.
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    marshman got a reaction from WOSdrummer99 in West Orange Stark job open/HICKMAN APPROVED   
    The search committee was a farce. It was pointless. Only done for the sake of appearances. My wife knows someone who is very very very close to one of the committee members. Close as you can be without being the actual member. Wife was told 2 weeks ago this. Said any name that was brought up no matter who it was was shot down. The superintendent had only one name to ever recommend and that was Hickman. Superintendent thy will be done.
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    marshman got a reaction from TxStBobcatDad in West Orange Stark job open/HICKMAN APPROVED   
    The search committee was a farce. It was pointless. Only done for the sake of appearances. My wife knows someone who is very very very close to one of the committee members. Close as you can be without being the actual member. Wife was told 2 weeks ago this. Said any name that was brought up no matter who it was was shot down. The superintendent had only one name to ever recommend and that was Hickman. Superintendent thy will be done.
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    marshman got a reaction from One4All in West Orange Stark job open/HICKMAN APPROVED   
    The search committee was a farce. It was pointless. Only done for the sake of appearances. My wife knows someone who is very very very close to one of the committee members. Close as you can be without being the actual member. Wife was told 2 weeks ago this. Said any name that was brought up no matter who it was was shot down. The superintendent had only one name to ever recommend and that was Hickman. Superintendent thy will be done.
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    marshman got a reaction from WOSdrummer99 in West Orange Stark job open/HICKMAN APPROVED   
    Well said. I do not have anything against Coach Hickman, heck I do not even know the man. I can truthfully say the comments I’ve heard from people and the ones I’ve read have all been positive about him so there’s that, also I worked with a guy that lives in Silsbee and had kids involved in HS athletics there back when he Hickman was there and I remember back when WOS hired him he said we were getting a good guy so there’s that also.  It’s just the way this superintendent went about this whole process. He had the guy he wanted come h*ll or high water. No matter who applied. 
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    marshman reacted to WOSdrummer99 in West Orange Stark job open/HICKMAN APPROVED   
    The problem most Mustangs have is the way the hiring process went. Everyone knew Hickman was the predetermined choice and that nobody else had a chance. Including the other coaches on staff that have been there for longer. The experience factor may not be too much for Hickman to overcome. He has been here for 6 years and likely learned more under CT than he did as Silsbee DC. 
    112% committed to whoever the new coach is. Nothing is set in stone. But the agenda for Monday's board meeting will make it official. There's a chance for citizens to speak, and I believe some will have much to say on this issue.
    Another thought... with all the racism claims being made recently. Perhaps CT said, "here you go, I'm out, have fun". The only thing against that is the man has so much pride in what he and others have built here. I can't see him handing over the keys to the bus knowing it's heading for a collision.
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    marshman got a reaction from WOSdrummer99 in West Orange Stark job open/HICKMAN APPROVED   
    It’s not that we’re not backing Hickman , it’s the way the superintendent went about hiring him. His mind was made up from the start. Like I said in an earlier post, someone much more qualified could have applie
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    marshman got a reaction from MackLewis in West Orange Stark job open/HICKMAN APPROVED   
    I think what bothers me the most and many others, is from the very day CT announced his retirement, many were saying the new coach was already on staff that the superintendent already had his candidate. The posting of the job, accepting applications, conducting interviews was all just a formality. Just going through the motions. That makes it seem as though he’s trying to put his personal spin or agenda on the program. Makes it seems sinister. Makes you believe if Todd Dodge applied or Surratt from Carthage they would have been turned down too. 
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    marshman got a reaction from Mr. Thornton Melon in West Orange Stark job open/HICKMAN APPROVED   
    Wouldn’t surprise me any of Toby never applies again. The first time he didn’t get picked was understandable, but this one is different. 
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    marshman got a reaction from KF89 in West Orange Stark job open/HICKMAN APPROVED   
    I think what bothers me the most and many others, is from the very day CT announced his retirement, many were saying the new coach was already on staff that the superintendent already had his candidate. The posting of the job, accepting applications, conducting interviews was all just a formality. Just going through the motions. That makes it seem as though he’s trying to put his personal spin or agenda on the program. Makes it seems sinister. Makes you believe if Todd Dodge applied or Surratt from Carthage they would have been turned down too. 
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    marshman got a reaction from KF89 in West Orange Stark job open/HICKMAN APPROVED   
    Will be interesting to see if the tradition continues. I don’t feel like it will.
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    marshman got a reaction from dj in West Orange Stark job open/HICKMAN APPROVED   
    I think what bothers me the most and many others, is from the very day CT announced his retirement, many were saying the new coach was already on staff that the superintendent already had his candidate. The posting of the job, accepting applications, conducting interviews was all just a formality. Just going through the motions. That makes it seem as though he’s trying to put his personal spin or agenda on the program. Makes it seems sinister. Makes you believe if Todd Dodge applied or Surratt from Carthage they would have been turned down too. 
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    marshman got a reaction from dj in West Orange Stark job open/HICKMAN APPROVED   
    Wouldn’t surprise me any of Toby never applies again. The first time he didn’t get picked was understandable, but this one is different. 
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    marshman got a reaction from WOSdrummer99 in West Orange Stark job open/HICKMAN APPROVED   
    I think what bothers me the most and many others, is from the very day CT announced his retirement, many were saying the new coach was already on staff that the superintendent already had his candidate. The posting of the job, accepting applications, conducting interviews was all just a formality. Just going through the motions. That makes it seem as though he’s trying to put his personal spin or agenda on the program. Makes it seems sinister. Makes you believe if Todd Dodge applied or Surratt from Carthage they would have been turned down too. 
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    marshman got a reaction from 5GallonBucket in West Orange Stark job open/HICKMAN APPROVED   
    I think what bothers me the most and many others, is from the very day CT announced his retirement, many were saying the new coach was already on staff that the superintendent already had his candidate. The posting of the job, accepting applications, conducting interviews was all just a formality. Just going through the motions. That makes it seem as though he’s trying to put his personal spin or agenda on the program. Makes it seems sinister. Makes you believe if Todd Dodge applied or Surratt from Carthage they would have been turned down too. 
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    marshman got a reaction from Mr. Buddy Garrity in West Orange Stark job open/HICKMAN APPROVED   
    Wouldn’t surprise me any of Toby never applies again. The first time he didn’t get picked was understandable, but this one is different. 
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    marshman got a reaction from One4All in West Orange Stark job open/HICKMAN APPROVED   
    Will be interesting to see if the tradition continues. I don’t feel like it will.
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    marshman reacted to LCMAlumtiger32 in West Orange Stark job open/HICKMAN APPROVED   
    Just keep your reserve tickets at LCM😉
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    marshman reacted to WOS1986 in West Orange Stark job open/HICKMAN APPROVED   
    It is wrong because most applications tend to include qualifications such as head coach experience. 
    Hickman- no experience and not loyal or passion with Mustangs way plus will not stay longer. Does he really dream this job? No I don't think so.
    Toby- yes experience and very loyal or passion with Mustangs way plus will stay long time. Does he really dream this job? Yes for sure. 
    That is big difference and picture.
    I really hope that Orange community do something since they paid the taxes. They have to right and speak out.
    Something is not right and fishy to me.
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    marshman got a reaction from BEARCPA in West Orange Stark job open/HICKMAN APPROVED   
    Not sure I’m understanding all the talk about Tobys overall HC record. Let’s not forget he took over a horrible 0-10 Shoemaker team, so a good number of those losses was getting that program going in a different direction. I don’t think anywhere he’s been has the same consistent talent that comes through WOS.  Also Some coaches just fit in better in some areas than others. Happens at all levels 
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    marshman reacted to WOSdrummer99 in West Orange Stark job open/HICKMAN APPROVED   
    Not sure, but so was everyone else. Toby has been on the sideline for every WOS state final appearance. Even back in the 80s as a ball boy. We always thought he was lucky to be a coaches son. Now this time should be his chance. There was no doubt why he called the last playoff games with Gary Stelly.
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    marshman reacted to GUNHO in West Orange Stark job open/HICKMAN APPROVED   
    Your missing the point.Toby knows WOS offense and defensive scheme.You hire someone from outside and they may change what has worked for WOS through the years.You change that and you set yourself up for failure.Seen many of programs with lots of athletes that never succeed. 
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    marshman reacted to WOSdrummer99 in West Orange Stark job open/HICKMAN APPROVED   
    I have alot of respect for the other perennial powerhouse of the area.
    But how's newton's coach been working out? Remember 70-0 when he first came down for a game. I only say this because the people I know from Newton claim they'll never be the same program after WT. Same could be said for us. Only time will tell. 
    And to whoever said something about genetics... there will always be athletes here. It's the coaching that makes the difference. Just ask LCM
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    marshman reacted to WOSdrummer99 in West Orange Stark job open/HICKMAN APPROVED   
    People want to know because they vote for these board members to make these tough decisions. For example, if coach "A" has a proven record as a leader and a winner, but is passed over for an inexperienced coach "C". Some would like to know the reason for the decision.
    BTW, only property owners pay taxes, but even they don't get a vote if they have moved out of the district. I know many members here don't reside within WOCISD. But that doesn't mean they don't still bleed blue and silver.
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