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So the basis is now bribery, not racism? This is getting ridiculous. Even taking the wild rumor of a bribe as true, there would be no interesting lawsuit against TASO. Vicarious liability, which is defined as an entity being liable for the acts of its agent, does not apply in cases of intentional act of the agent unless the entity required that action or it was reasonably foreseeable. Taking a bribe, which is apparently the new allegation, is an intentional act. The referee himself, if this ridiculous allegation is true, could be liable, but you would not reach the deep pockets of TASO. And the NAACP can threaten all of the legal action it wants, it is just blowing smoke. It has no standing to bring a suit in this case. It can provide attorney's for the "injured" parties, it can be the driving force, but it can't be the filing party to this suit as it has no standing to do so. I also find it telling that despite all of this, there is no report of either LBJ High School or Austin ISD making any contact with the UIL about this. The only one I see being close to having legal action are the members of the officiating crew who have now had allegations of racism (despite the fact that at least one of the members of that "racist crew" was African American) and now bribery thrown at them, with what is out there right now, not much basis for it. It doesn't reach it yet, but this is becoming dangerously close to turning into a defamation lawsuit. Ultimately, the only effect that will come out of this is a chilling effect on anyone who wants to enter into officiating. On top of verbal abuse and social media complaints, we have now seen officials become the victims of battery and now subject to civil and/or criminal allegations because someone did not like their calls. Yeah, that makes me want to get out there for 50 bucks a game.5 points
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Carthage vs Gilmer ***4A Div. II State Championship***
STiger85 and 2 others reacted to BMTSoulja1 for a topic
Well, that and superior coaching, facilities, a supportive community and culture among other things.3 points -
I strongly disagree if Bush was 6’1 he would have been able to go anywhere in the country are we looking at what they did in high school or what they gonna do in college because Bush obviously outplayed them in high school look at team accomplishments and he lead that team when he got to high school and let’s look early in college at 5’6 what he is doing going to a power 5 don’t make you better3 points
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LBJ vs Lindale Complaint was filed to UIL
exsoftballplayer and one other reacted to LCMAlumtiger32 for a topic
The local NAACP has filed a complaint with the UIL following Friday's state semifinal game between the Lindale Eagles and the Austin LBJ Jaguars. The Eagles won the game 31-28, but the NAACP believes it was because of unfair officiating. The president of the Austin NAACP asked the UIL to postpone Friday's state championship game until an investigation can be completed, but the UIL said that's not going to happen. It was after the Friday Night lights turned off in Humble, that LBJ Jaguar coach Jahmal Fenner had a chance to look over video of his team's loss during the state semifinal game. "It just drove it home for me that what I felt during the game, that something wasn't right. It just confirmed it for me," Fenner said. After the first half of the game, the Jaguars led 28 to 7. In the second half, Fenner said officials called 16 penalties on the Jaguars, while ignoring all but two penalties made by the Eagles. The Eagles went on to win by a field goal after an LBJ touchdown was called back. "I don't feel like my players and my team lost that game solely because we played bad or we made bad calls. Yes, some of that did take place, but the officials had took part in some of that as well," said Fenner. Dozens of parents and players are also convinced something was up. Austin NAACP President Nelson Linder said he received about 60 calls and letters regarding officials at the game. Although the NAACP doesn't usually get involved in high school football, Linder said this time he felt it was necessary. "It was definitely a racial issue. I got some calls about racial slurs, people being ugly, nasty, no doubt about it," said Linder. "I don't like being a sportscaster. I'm not good at that, but I do understand what's right, what's wrong, what's fair, what's unfair. This to me is very, very clear. This was ugly. It should never have occurred in any sport for these young people. These kids, their spirits have been broken," he added. Linder asked the UIL to take action prior to the state championship game, which the Eagles play in on Friday night. "Look at the tapes. Look at some of the complaints. Check out the referee's background, make a decision. Postpone tomorrow night's game, replay the game, come up with a fair solution where the best team, the deserving team, plays in the state championship," Linder said. The UIL responded in a statement to Fox 7 Austin that reads, "All officials are agreed upon by both parties in advance of a game and per the UIL Constitution and Contest Rules section 1204, a protest based on a game or contest official’s decision will not be considered. While the UIL will not be formally investigating this matter, The Texas Association of Sports Officials has a process for reporting rule misapplication by an official and investigating such reports." The NAACP has since responded, "We will definitely pursue this process further. Of course, we were intent upon filing the complaint before tomorrow night's championship game. It was important to let the students know that we knew they were treated unfairly. We will now take our concerns to the Texas Association of Sports Officials. It’s important that these kinds of incidents are exposed to the public. We will also consider possible legal actions." Lindale athletics did not respond to requests for comment.2 points -
Carthage vs Gilmer ***4A Div. II State Championship***
Crawford and one other reacted to Bulldogs92 for a topic
You can probably pencil them in for next year, too. There will be a few contenders and I hope we're one of them, but it's hard to imagine much drop-off from them.2 points -
Carthage vs Gilmer ***4A Div. II State Championship***
Gasilla and one other reacted to Bulldogs92 for a topic
We did. That would have put us in the third round (I think). Getting blown out then by the state champion is better than getting blown out in bi-district.2 points -
Carthage vs Gilmer ***4A Div. II State Championship***
piratevillain and one other reacted to NDNTime for a topic
Carthage would make a deep run in 5A...either division.2 points -
Carthage vs Gilmer ***4A Div. II State Championship***
dj and one other reacted to SmashMouth for a topic
Thank you. Errybody makes fun of me when I say that...2 points -
Carthage vs Gilmer ***4A Div. II State Championship***
Mr. Buddy Garrity and one other reacted to ATTITUDE IS EVERYTHING for a topic
Next year won't be any different2 points -
Carthage vs Gilmer ***4A Div. II State Championship***
Crawford and one other reacted to Mr. Buddy Garrity for a topic
Congrats to Carthage on yet another State Championship.2 points -
LBJ vs Lindale Complaint was filed to UIL
exsoftballplayer and one other reacted to Realville for a topic
Here’s a theory....Maybe Lindale was the better team that night.2 points -
Do we really believe there are officials, who are working games for pennies, for the sole intent of ensuring one race of kids wins over another race of kids? And even if those guys are out there (which, for clarity, I do not believe they are), do we really believe they would be throwing racial slurs around exposing their nefarious intent during games? Come on man.2 points
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LBJ vs Lindale Complaint was filed to UIL
Mr. Buddy Garrity and one other reacted to piratevillain for a topic
Those to 4th down missed conversions in their own territory doesn't help their cause much. But there was a lot of BS calls against LBJ, I will say that.2 points -
LBJ vs Lindale Complaint was filed to UIL
piratevillain and one other reacted to CardinalBacker for a topic
When you can’t out-athlete the other team... gotta be racism.2 points -
Carthage vs Gilmer ***4A Div. II State Championship***
Bulldogs92 reacted to SmashMouth for a topic
No doubt. Anybody wanna argue about how ANY other 4A-D2 team in the state had a chance? 😎1 point -
Carthage vs Gilmer ***4A Div. II State Championship***
dj reacted to BMTSoulja1 for a topic
This is insane. Like for real. It just makes me wonder why many teams haven’t followed the blueprint of Carthage yet.1 point -
Carthage vs Gilmer ***4A Div. II State Championship***
NDNTime reacted to exsoftballplayer for a topic
Bet I can pick the defensive MVP.......1 point -
Carthage vs Gilmer ***4A Div. II State Championship***
exsoftballplayer reacted to Hagar for a topic
And another Carthage TD, 56-14.1 point -
Carthage vs Gilmer ***4A Div. II State Championship***
exsoftballplayer reacted to Hagar for a topic
Carthage runs a 69 yard TD, first play of theirs in 2nd half I think. 49-14.1 point -
Crosby Vs Texas High!
CowbellCoog reacted to Bigdog9 for a topic
Would have loved to see a potential 3rd round png matchup. But definitely now hoping to get a potential Nederland vs Crosby/BH matchup in the 4th1 point -
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LBJ vs Lindale Complaint was filed to UIL
Cougtalk reacted to LCMAlumtiger32 for a topic
The head ref was giving his audio pack to a guy in a maroon hoodie if that’s what your talking about. I’m assuming that guy was in charge of the field and probably didn’t care who won the game lol. That’s a silly allegation they are trying to make that he got paid off. I’m sure if a ref does get paid off it’s behind close doors.1 point -
Carthage vs Gilmer ***4A Div. II State Championship***
Rez Ipsa reacted to PhatMack19 for a topic
Fox sports southwest1 point -
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Well, I'll tell you what. Write the petition for me right here, what is the claim of "institutional negligence" or "lack of oversight" you would forward here? And since you brought it up, what damages are you going to allege? And things are pre-adjudicated all of the time in our court system, it is called a summary judgment. There is also an action available to a defendant through the Texas Rules of Civil Procedure 91 (a) for frivolous lawsuits. And they are preadjudicated all the time in law offices throughout the nation. Have a nice day, Coog.1 point
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Wow! You didn't take the same law school classes that I did. Your allegation of vicarious liability is like saying that your employer is liable for you killing someone while driving drunk because it could possibly happen. That is not reasonable forseeability and is not "'institutional negligence." As with the NAACP, any of TASO's lawyers would represent the client, not the organization. Any inkling that they did otherwise would put a lawyer's license in jeopardy. As to your defense of a libel claim, the Washington Post and CNN thought like you did. Now Nicholas Sandman is now a very rich young man. You target a specific group who names are easily accessible, then you have identified under the law. Second, an organization or new organization does, under the law have a duty to investigate allegations made before publishing. If they did not, yes, they are liable. And as for the NAACP, that horse escaped the barn with this little statement: "It was definitely a racial issue. I got some calls about racial slurs, people being ugly, nasty, no doubt about it," said Linder. "I don't like being a sportscaster. I'm not good at that, but I do understand what's right, what's wrong, what's fair, what's unfair. This to me is very, very clear. This was ugly. It should never have occurred in any sport for these young people. These kids, their spirits have been broken," he added.1 point
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Lumberton 62 Little Cypress-Mauriceville 46/FINAL
BMTSoulja1 reacted to RaiderGirl2010 for a topic
Oh whatever1 point -
Huffman Hargrave 66 Hardin-Jefferson 44/FINAL
BlueOwl reacted to AggiesAreWe for a topic
😁 But I do believe in this case that HJ is the more talented team than Huffman.1 point -
LBJ vs Lindale Complaint was filed to UIL
exsoftballplayer reacted to AHUDDLESTON for a topic
I just watched the game. The umpire, back judge and side judge are all black. The coach that went for 4th down twice inside the 35 had more to do with the loss than any ref. Lindale lost a td on inadvertent whistle. 6 illegal procedure penalties is lack of discipline not racism. Late hit out of bounds and targeting were both legit calls. This is just the losing team crying for mistakes they made. 3 fumbled snaps in second half, punt return muffs it in ez and lindale recovers, 3rd down rbs run into each other, etc.1 point -
Crosby Vs Texas High!
BHFAN reacted to CowbellCoog for a topic
Hey boss, I would take advantage of there being a thread still up in rd2 with the mighty ant hills name on it and head back over to stirr the pot while you still can. All B.S. aside were all lucky to be playing at all TBH. So let's take it 1 game at a time, yall win this week and we will do out best to take care of business and who knows, maybe we will get yall that rematch! Go Coogs/Dogs/Crows.. uh I mean Eagles!!!1 point -
LBJ vs Lindale Complaint was filed to UIL
BMTSoulja1 reacted to gogo1734 for a topic
So, I watched the video of the link attached in LC-M's post. The man representing the NAACP specifically said "people" were saying racial slurs. He did not say officials. In a complaint based mostly on the way the game was officiated, one would have to think if the officials were the "people" throwing out racial slurs, this would have most certainly been mentioned.1 point -
Crosby Vs Texas High!
CowbellCoog reacted to BHFAN for a topic
Yup, Goodluck tonight I hope the whole district advances.1 point -
Lumberton 62 Little Cypress-Mauriceville 46/FINAL
BMTSoulja1 reacted to LCMAlumtiger32 for a topic
I’m Silsbee fan too!!!1 point -
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LBJ vs Lindale Complaint was filed to UIL
Mr. Buddy Garrity reacted to SmashMouth for a topic
You would think that’s what they meant, but it is not clearly identified. They need some clarification before making such a broad statement.1 point -
Huffman Hargrave 66 Hardin-Jefferson 44/FINAL
BlueOwl reacted to AggiesAreWe for a topic
So is it safe to say that Huffman coach did more with less?1 point -
It’s amazing how dead people always vote Democrat.1 point
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They’re still being pre-printed and mailed in from beyond the grave.1 point
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Have they stopped counting Biden votes yet?1 point
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I wear one, primarily because my wife throws a fit if I don’t. Guess she knows she’ll never find a hunk like me again..... 😂😂🤣🤣😂😂1 point
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He was 6'1, and slender. Now I think about it your were referring to Adams, but I had McCain on my mind.1 point
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Could have sworn Adams was 6'1 his freshman year. Even remember him being listed as such on the roster 🤷1 point
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No, Devon McCain. He was 5'8". when his Fr season started. By the playoffs he was 6'1". He transferred from Austin Peay to Clarendon College in the Texas Panhandle.1 point
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Silsbee 86 Orangefield 64/FINAL
BADSANTA reacted to BMTSoulja1 for a topic
Adams was not 6’1” as a fish.... maybe as an 8th grader....1 point -
HJ missing any players?1 point
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For HJ - Pretty balanced scoring by the Lady Hawks tonight. Ashlon Jackson-21pts Kendall Sneed-17pts Makenna Henry-14pts India McMahon-12pts Savannah McDonald-11pts Jalyn Wright-10pts Audie Rogers-8pts Ashlyn Yarbrough-5pts1 point
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Beaumont United 61 Bellaire 47/FINAL
lil brother reacted to JustUs for a topic
Thanks for the top shelf updates......1 point -
Lindale vs Austin LBJ
exsoftballplayer reacted to piratevillain for a topic
Lindale first took a delay of game to get a better angle for FG attempt. Second FG attempt, LBJ blocked it but was negated by an offsides penalty which brought it to the 1 yard line and the rest was history. Crazy ending to say the least.1 point