Jump to content

Ask MrUmp1 your rules question.


Recommended Posts

ART. 2 . . . If a pitcher is replaced while his team is on defense, the substitute pitcher shall pitch to the batter then at bat, or any substitute for that batter, until such batter is put out or reaches first base, or until a third out has been made. To ensure that the requirements of this article be fulfilled, the umpire will deny any coach-defensive player conference that will violate the rule. If a pitcher is incapacitated or guilty of flagrant unsportsmanlike conduct, this rule is ignored. A player may be removed as pitcher and returned as pitcher only once per inning, provided the return as pitcher does not violate either the pitching, substitution or charged conference rule. If the pitcher, because of an injury or being incapacitated, is replaced as pitcher and the above rule is not satisfied, or if his replacement requires more warm-up throws than permitted in 6-2-2 exception, he cannot return to the game as a pitcher.

Article 2 of the handbook makes no reference to starter or reliever. IDK. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

9 minutes ago, Tigers2010 said:

ART. 2 . . . If a pitcher is replaced while his team is on defense, the substitute pitcher shall pitch to the batter then at bat, or any substitute for that batter, until such batter is put out or reaches first base, or until a third out has been made. To ensure that the requirements of this article be fulfilled, the umpire will deny any coach-defensive player conference that will violate the rule. If a pitcher is incapacitated or guilty of flagrant unsportsmanlike conduct, this rule is ignored. A player may be removed as pitcher and returned as pitcher only once per inning, provided the return as pitcher does not violate either the pitching, substitution or charged conference rule. If the pitcher, because of an injury or being incapacitated, is replaced as pitcher and the above rule is not satisfied, or if his replacement requires more warm-up throws than permitted in 6-2-2 exception, he cannot return to the game as a pitcher.

Article 2 of the handbook makes no reference to starter or reliever. IDK. 

Yes I just googeled it - what is a charged conference rule?  Also, the doc I referenced noted something about the 1st batter either reaching 1st base or being called out????

IDK

Link to comment
Share on other sites

18 hours ago, Whoa said:

Yes I just googeled it - what is a charged conference rule?  Also, the doc I referenced noted something about the 1st batter either reaching 1st base or being called out????

IDK

Its referencing the starting pitcher. The starter has to complete the first at bat (batter gets on base or records an out), barring an injury.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 10 months later...

Obstruction question for Select/MLB rules. 

 

Runner at 1st.  Hitter hits it to the wall.  Their SS is standing on the base and obstructs our runner knocking him down.  While he’s on the ground the the batter passes him up.  Obstruction was called, but then then they called out the batter for passing his teammate.  Runner was given a base but batter was out for the 3rd out. 

 

Delayed dead ball was correct since their was no play at the base.  The rule for this is vague, but I don’t see how a team can commit obstruction and the team that was obstructed gets penalized.  

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I do not agree that the runner should be called out. Delayed dead ball then runners awarded bases. Kind of unusual that a runner would pass someone that is that far ahead of them. Sometimes you have to use common sense. If there is a delayed dead ball then a runner gets thrown out trying to take extra bases that's a different thing. Doesn't sound like the case in your play.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, MrUmp1 said:

I do not agree that the runner should be called out. Delayed dead ball then runners awarded bases. Kind of unusual that a runner would pass someone that is that far ahead of them. Sometimes you have to use common sense. If there is a delayed dead ball then a runner gets thrown out trying to take extra bases that's a different thing. Doesn't sound like the case in your play.

They are 6U.  My runner was laying on the ground crying and the batter was fast.  It was an easy inside the Parker so we were all telling him to score when he hit it  

 I just wanted to be able to tell Harold that he was full of it.  I told he was wrong many times, but he never listens.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 1 month later...

If the base umpire was on the line and had a good look at it, they could get together and reverse call. The proper mechanic is if it looks like trouble, the base ump at first should go out and make call. If base umpire goes out then home plate home will have to get in position to make a call at second or third. That is if it was a 2 man crew. If this was a 3 man crew, it is the 1st base umps call all the way. The old days of the home plate ump has all the lines and all the fly balls is not correct in today's mechanics,

Link to comment
Share on other sites

9 hours ago, MrUmp1 said:

If the base umpire was on the line and had a good look at it, they could get together and reverse call. The proper mechanic is if it looks like trouble, the base ump at first should go out and make call. If base umpire goes out then home plate home will have to get in position to make a call at second or third. That is if it was a 2 man crew. If this was a 3 man crew, it is the 1st base umps call all the way. The old days of the home plate ump has all the lines and all the fly balls is not correct in today's mechanics,

Two man crew. I thought the base ump was responsible for the guy on 1st? 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

11 minutes ago, vidor96pirates said:

6a varsity uses 3 man crew usually.  If that was the case 1b umpire is in A, 3b umpire is in C. The ball being hit down the left field line is the plate umpires call.  If the umpire in C got a good look at it he could give the plate what he saw and he makes the call. 

They only had two umpires.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Ah ok well the base umpire would have been in B usually.  You never cross the dirt and go out on a ball hit to the outfield. He would have to have went over towards third and got the best look he could at it.  He would have also have been watching the runners touch bases as well though.  Unless he saw it clear as day the plate should have had the better view. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 1 month later...

About 2 years ago our catcher was called for a balk. This was during a 13U select game, this was a new one on me. What is the rule on this call? At the end of the game another ump in the stands made the comment that this should have never been called in a 13U game. Bad part about it was the calling ump never broke it down so that the player was aware of what he had done.....

Link to comment
Share on other sites

In a travel league game the field umpire called a balk on the pitcher. The pitcher followed through and delivered the pitch. Batter swings and hits a double to score the winning run. The ump that made the balk call said it was a dead ball and made the runner go back to second and the batter back to the plate. Then advanced the runner to third. My question is, when a ump calls a balk and the pitcher delivers the pitch and the batter hits it. Is it a dead ball when the ump yells balk or since the pitcher delivered the ball it is live and in play. Hard to believe but I’ve seen it called both ways.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

23 hours ago, Coach85 said:

In a travel league game the field umpire called a balk on the pitcher. The pitcher followed through and delivered the pitch. Batter swings and hits a double to score the winning run. The ump that made the balk call said it was a dead ball and made the runner go back to second and the batter back to the plate. Then advanced the runner to third. My question is, when a ump calls a balk and the pitcher delivers the pitch and the batter hits it. Is it a dead ball when the ump yells balk or since the pitcher delivered the ball it is live and in play. Hard to believe but I’ve seen it called both ways.

Depends on the league/organization 

In HS it is a dead ball.  

In MLB, NCAA, Babe Ruth, Select the ball is live and the balk is nullified once the runners reach the next base.  So swing away, only good things can happen. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, PhatMack19 said:

Depends on the league/organization 

In HS it is a dead ball.  

In MLB, NCAA, Babe Ruth, Select the ball is live and the balk is nullified once the runners reach the next base.  So swing away, only good things can happen. 

Thank you for clarifying that for me.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 10 months later...
  • 3 months later...

I see no reason why this would be illegal. Even if he dropped the ball ,unless it rolls past a foul line , it would not be a pitch. Pitchers in the windup may start with both hands in their glove, break their hands apart, then bring them back together before delivery of pitch. There is nothing in the rule that states the ball must stay in hand or glove only. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 3 weeks later...

need a ruling:

runner at 3rd, 2 strikes on the batter. 2 outs... 

man on 3rd steals home, pitcher does not see him and has a legal pitch, the ball hits the man stealing home in the strike zone while the runners foot is on the home plate. strike would make it strike 3. 

does the run count due to he was safe before the ball hit him? is it a dead ball or live strike three?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • KF89 unpinned and pinned this topic

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
  • Member Statistics

    45,937
    Total Members
    1,837
    Most Online
    jacobmartin
    Newest Member
    jacobmartin
    Joined



  • Posts

    • There is a difference, but I wouldn't at all put it past Trump to do so if he had the infrastructure in place to get away with it like the Dems currently do.  With the amount of effort he's invested in ruining those republicans who've opposed him, it wouldn't surprise me one bit.
    • I think it will be an interesting case and could potentially come up for appeal on a different constitutional point.  The Supreme Court has ruled in the past that the government doesn’t have to take possession of property in order to take it under the meaning of the Fifth Amendment.  If they take away the enjoyment or use of the property, it is no different than physically seizing it to build a highway for example. In a lawsuit as opposed to a criminal trial, a person/plaintiff doesn’t have to prove something beyond a reasonable doubt but rather by a preponderance of evidence or “more likely” to have happened. Maybe it could be described as more likely yes than no or 51%-49%.  ”IF” it can be shown at a trial by a preponderance of evidence that Texas more likely yes than no caused the flooding with its engineering of the project, the people suing might have a case. But…. Does that alone win the case under the Fifth Amendment taking clause? I am not so sure. In US v Causby the Supreme Court ruled that the US government took a man’s property by flying airplanes over it. It was a public airport lawfully leased by the US in WWII and used to fly heavy bombers from it. Causby had an egg farm and the extremely loud noise of some airplanes under full power and sometimes at night with a landing lights being so close, it bothered and scared the family and damaged his egg farm production. Some chickens died and some quit laying eggs due to the extreme disturbances and lights at night. The Supreme Court ruled in Causby’s favor saying that the US had taken away the enjoyment and use of his land even though they didn’t physically seize it. The use of the land was hampered and that was enough for the taking clause under the Fifth Amendment. So in the IH-10 case, did Texas take away the use or enjoyment of the property?  A point of Causby was that the military bombers at a public airport was certainly for “public use”. The planes were public/taxpayers’ and the airport and lease were taxpayers’ property so the “public” definitely used it   My question in this lawsuit against Texas, even in they can prove the damage, was the damage (like in Causby) for “public use”? If not would it then not be a Fifth Amendment case but rather a state law case?  If Texas law denies such a lawsuit under state sovereignty and the families can’t prove a Fifth Amendment case of “public use”, could they prove the damages but still lose the case under state law? I haven’t read that anywhere and just thinking out loud. I could be way off base. But I think it could be interesting…..
    • Both sides...that is, everyone tries to get their people elected. Trump has not weaponized the government to bankrupt and imprison his political opponents. Night and day difference for me.
    • Surely you're aware of the great lengths Trump has gone to disrupt the elections and destroy the careers of republican politicians who haven't supported some of his most outlandish claims, or dared to question him or disagree with him about January 6.  You and I actually agree on this issue, although it must only go one way for you, because Trump's actions against republicans who didn't fall into lockstep with him is one of my biggest concerns about reelecting him.  The fact that he took action to affect literally hundreds of republican primaries from national elections down to municipal levels across the country, is concerning. It would've been one thing had he done it in an effort to help republicans win. Instead his purpose was to push out his perceived detractors and install MAGA politicians at every level of government in as many places as possible, and has resulted in a fractured republican party.
    • Lmao. No doubt. With a name like that, he would've gotten made fun of even if he was home-schooled.
  • Topics

×
×
  • Create New...