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19 hours ago, stevenash said:

We just recorded the first 12 month GDP of 3% or more for the first time since 2005.  2005?   Hmmm who was in office then? 

Don’t want to talk about 2007 do you?

I’d say 2005 offers confirmation of Keynesian economic theory. We had about $3 trillion off the books government money pumped into the economy through a phony war. Bush pumped it up, then what happened?

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13 hours ago, UT alum said:

Don’t want to talk about 2007 do you?

I’d say 2005 offers confirmation of Keynesian economic theory. We had about $3 trillion off the books government money pumped into the economy through a phony war. Bush pumped it up, then what happened?

Capitalism works wherever it's tried!  Can we say the same thing for socialism?

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On ‎3‎/‎2‎/‎2019 at 7:45 AM, UT alum said:

Don’t want to talk about 2007 do you?

I’d say 2005 offers confirmation of Keynesian economic theory. We had about $3 trillion off the books government money pumped into the economy through a phony war. Bush pumped it up, then what happened?

2007 has been talked about more than any other economic event on this board.  So now you are going to somehow blame the deep recession on "off the books" government money?  Give me a break

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5 hours ago, stevenash said:

2007 has been talked about more than any other economic event on this board.  So now you are going to somehow blame the deep recession on "off the books" government money?  Give me a break

No, the growth you touted was partly from off the books money. 

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14 minutes ago, UT alum said:

John Maynard Keynes was a capitalist.

So, since you are a socialist, how about a list of the positive advantages of socialism?

While we are at it, I have conservative values, consider myself a free thinker and a decent enough human being. Can you tell me how it is possible for a liberal to think exactly opposite on every issue? I mean the odds are staggering. Is it programmed?

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4 minutes ago, baddog said:

So, since you are a socialist, how about a list of the positive advantages of socialism?

While we are at it, I have conservative values, consider myself a free thinker and a decent enough human being. Can you tell me how it is possible for a liberal to think exactly opposite on every issue? I mean the odds are staggering. Is it programmed?

It’s called polarization, and that’s how the media makes money off all of us. For the third time, peace and harmony don’t make for good ratings. Life is not a zero sum game, but we are allowing it to become one.

Who said I was a socialist? I’m a small business capitalist. Competition is a wonderful thing. See? I’ll bet we both agree on that one.

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5 minutes ago, UT alum said:

It’s called polarization, and that’s how the media makes money off all of us. For the third time, peace and harmony don’t make for good ratings. Life is not a zero sum game, but we are allowing it to become one.

Who said I was a socialist? I’m a small business capitalist. Competition is a wonderful thing. See? I’ll bet we both agree on that one.

So you enjoy playing devil’s advocate. You are confusing. What better president for a capitalist to have than Trump?

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11 minutes ago, baddog said:

So you enjoy playing devil’s advocate. You are confusing. What better president for a capitalist to have than Trump?

To tell the truth, my business has been more profitable through the years when a Democrat has been in the White House.

I guess the reason I’m confusing is that I’m a realist, not an ideologue.

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19 hours ago, baddog said:

Man, I learn new phrases everyday. Phony war.......amazing. 

That didn’t sound exactly right. In no way would I disparage or trivialize the sacrifice of our soldiers. What I meant was a war based on phony premises. The sacrifice of life and treasure was very real, the reasoning and result was a pathetic exercise by armchair generals. By that, I mean none of the civilian decision makers that I’m aware other than Powell had any military experience, unless you count W’s stint in the reserves. And Powell, well, you know how he felt about how Cheney hung him out at the UN.

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2 hours ago, UT alum said:

To tell the truth, my business has been more profitable through the years when a Democrat has been in the White House.

I guess the reason I’m confusing is that I’m a realist, not an ideologue.

So you can HONESTLY tell me that who the President is has a bearing on your profits?  Things like reduction in taxes and regulations did nothing for your business?  Interesting.  Please tell me what policies implemented by the Obama administration improved the profitability of your business and what policies of Trumps reduced that improved profitability?

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57 minutes ago, stevenash said:

So you can HONESTLY tell me that who the President is has a bearing on your profits?  Things like reduction in taxes and regulations did nothing for your business?  Interesting.  Please tell me what policies implemented by the Obama administration improved the profitability of your business and what policies of Trumps reduced that improved profitability?

You seem to be trumpeting Trump for the GDP increase. Whether the president had direct bearings on my profits or not, I do not know. I’m just stating the truth about my business relative to who was in the Oval Office. Presidents don’t deserve as much credit or blame as they get for the state of the economy, but they take the heat or praise because of their position.

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But you are STATING that your business does better under democratic administrations.  What characteristics of those administrations do you feel are responsible for that improved business performance.   I have a haunting hunch that this has more with what you "want it to be" as opposed to what it is.  And, by the way, removed many barriers erected against the business community.  That has MUCH to do with the ability of a business(s)  to flourish.    If I am understanding you correctly, your business was at the top of its game but has been in decline for the past two years, correct?

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45 minutes ago, UT alum said:

You seem to be trumpeting Trump for the GDP increase. Whether the president had direct bearings on my profits or not, I do not know. I’m just stating the truth about my business relative to who was in the Oval Office. Presidents don’t deserve as much credit or blame as they get for the state of the economy, but they take the heat or praise because of their position.

So you have the only business in the USA that doesn’t benefit from lower taxes?

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On 3/2/2019 at 7:45 AM, UT alum said:

Don’t want to talk about 2007 do you?

I’d say 2005 offers confirmation of Keynesian economic theory. We had about $3 trillion off the books government money pumped into the economy through a phony war. Bush pumped it up, then what happened?

When have we ever seen a caravan of people trying to get into a Socialist country?!

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9 hours ago, Reagan said:

When have we ever seen a caravan of people trying to get into a Socialist country?!

 

9 hours ago, LumRaiderFan said:

No answer?

UT alum, please tell me you didn’t graduate from McCombs.

9 hours ago, LumRaiderFan said:

No answer?

UT alum, please tell me you didn’t graduate from McCombs.

My business is an S Corp. I didn’t get any benefit. C corps, the majority of large corporate structures got the big cut. Trump didn’t do jack for small business.

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2 hours ago, UT alum said:

 

My business is an S Corp. I didn’t get any benefit. C corps, the majority of large corporate structures got the big cut. Trump didn’t do jack for small business.

Just tell us exactly what happened to make your business decline about 2 years ago .

 

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