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One of my favorite examples of having socialists living by their own rules is a classic tale. I don't know if or how true it is, but I partially remember the scenario. A college professor (no doubt either now forcibly retired or fired) told his students that his class would be run in a socialist manner.  When the results were posted after the first exam, students were shocked...some elated, some dismayed, and some ready to riot...due to each and everyone receiving a C+ grade. The "smarter" students complained that they had worked their butt off to ace the test, while fellow students slacked off and did not study at all. The professor assured them that their superior performance was due to "privilege", and must accept and acknowledge that "fact". And furthermore, they must be ecstatically willing to share their grades with the less fortunate. Any complaints would have to be directed solely to the one that made the rule...the ruling class (him). He then took a vote...should the class be continually run on collectivism or switched to an individualistic manner. The vote was close, but the "less fortunate" students slightly outnumbered the "more fortunate". Almost half of the class dropped the coarse immediately. The remaining "socialist dreamers" who voted for collectivism then failed the next exam, due to the "smarter" students not present to bring up the average. The "socialist dreamers" finally realized the fallacy of their logic, and subsequently dropped out also. The course ceased to exist. Again, I don't know if this is akin to a Canterbury tale or not, but thankfully I didn't have to be slapped directly in the face to learn a simplistic notion.

If anyone would like to debate the pros and cons of collectivism/individualism as it relates to innate and/or learned behaviors, I am more than willing to engage in a civil discussion. But fair warning, I will have no problem thrashing in the sewer if that is where you want to take it.

Hopefully I'm not hijacking your thread baddog, but this reminded me of the old classic (to me, anyways). The perfect setup for an actual debate.

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6 hours ago, Englebert said:

One of my favorite examples of having socialists living by their own rules is a classic tale. I don't know if or how true it is, but I partially remember the scenario. A college professor (no doubt either now forcibly retired or fired) told his students that his class would be run in a socialist manner.  When the results were posted after the first exam, students were shocked...some elated, some dismayed, and some ready to riot...due to each and everyone receiving a C+ grade. The "smarter" students complained that they had worked their butt off to ace the test, while fellow students slacked off and did not study at all. The professor assured them that their superior performance was due to "privilege", and must accept and acknowledge that "fact". And furthermore, they must be ecstatically willing to share their grades with the less fortunate. Any complaints would have to be directed solely to the one that made the rule...the ruling class (him). He then took a vote...should the class be continually run on collectivism or switched to an individualistic manner. The vote was close, but the "less fortunate" students slightly outnumbered the "more fortunate". Almost half of the class dropped the coarse immediately. The remaining "socialist dreamers" who voted for collectivism then failed the next exam, due to the "smarter" students not present to bring up the average. The "socialist dreamers" finally realized the fallacy of their logic, and subsequently dropped out also. The course ceased to exist. Again, I don't know if this is akin to a Canterbury tale or not, but thankfully I didn't have to be slapped directly in the face to learn a simplistic notion.

If anyone would like to debate the pros and cons of collectivism/individualism as it relates to innate and/or learned behaviors, I am more than willing to engage in a civil discussion. But fair warning, I will have no problem thrashing in the sewer if that is where you want to take it.

Hopefully I'm not hijacking your thread baddog, but this reminded me of the old classic (to me, anyways). The perfect setup for an actual debate.

As you can see, our liberal brethren here have jumped ship, therefore there will be no one to try to defend this.  Maybe they have realized how crazy their party has become, and know they don't have a leg to stand on when it comes to defending their flawed ideals.

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