Jump to content

Jasper vs Salado


Recommended Posts

Huffman, Robinson.  Please weigh in here.  You have played both teams. 

It is so hard to judge teams from totally different areas.  Frankly I was surprised to learn that Salado is in Region III.  Comparing won-loss records against totally different teams is rather meaningless.  For example in 2007 when Jasper made it to the state tournament, they had the worst record of the four teams.  Short version.  Jasper won both State games scoring 25 total runs, stealing about 20 bases, and setting a number of state tourny records in the process.  

Link to comment
Share on other sites

This is the hidden content, please
This is the hidden content, please
This is the hidden content, please
This is the hidden content, please
 
This is the hidden content, please
This is the hidden content, please
This is the hidden content, please
This is the hidden content, please
         
This is the hidden content, please
This is the hidden content, please
This is the hidden content, please
This is the hidden content, please
         
This is the hidden content, please
This is the hidden content, please
This is the hidden content, please
This is the hidden content, please
This is the hidden content, please
This is the hidden content, please
This is the hidden content, please
This is the hidden content, please
 
This is the hidden content, please
This is the hidden content, please
This is the hidden content, please
This is the hidden content, please
This is the hidden content, please
This is the hidden content, please
This is the hidden content, please
This is the hidden content, please
 
This is the hidden content, please
This is the hidden content, please
This is the hidden content, please
This is the hidden content, please
This is the hidden content, please
This is the hidden content, please
This is the hidden content, please
This is the hidden content, please
         
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Sorry the previous post is the similar teams both have played.  I agree someone from either of those two teams input would be great.

51 minutes ago, j_dog said:

Huffman, Robinson.  Please weigh in here.  You have played both teams. 

It is so hard to judge teams from totally different areas.  Frankly I was surprised to learn that Salado is in Region III.  Comparing won-loss records against totally different teams is rather meaningless.  For example in 2007 when Jasper made it to the state tournament, they had the worst record of the four teams.  Short version.  Jasper won both State games scoring 25 total runs, stealing about 20 bases, and setting a number of state tourny records in the process.  

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I did not see the game against Salado; however, I was really surprised that their games against Lorena were so close.

I did see our guys play Lorena in both district games and both were decisive wins.

Play your game, hit the ball and don't make errors and I think you'll advance.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

16 hours ago, JasperDAWG said:

Also in that title game the Dawgs caused the highly touted will middlebrooks who was being drafted in the 5th round of MLB draft to be pulled early from the mound for the first and only time in his highschool career. He was 13-0 to that point for that season.

Middlebrooks didn’t throw against Jasper in 07. He threw the day before 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, TC21 said:

Middlebrooks didn’t throw against Jasper in 07. He threw the day before 

True.  Middlebrooks played shortstop against Jasper.  I think Jasper's base running speed may have gotten to him a bit as he let a hard hit ground ball go cleanly between his legs.  That was a day that just about everything went right for the Dogs.

But still Jasper beat up a very good hard throwing Liberty Eylau pitcher that also had a very good record.  One thing to remember is that Liberty Eylau was the defending state champion.

It was surreal that while the game was going on the MLB draft was going on.  Middlebrooks could have gone in the first round but he would not commit to signing instead of going to college.  Each round Boston (as I recall) called to ask if he had changed his mind about committing.  Finally they took him in the fifth round; and he eventually signed anyway for what  probably would be considered first round money at that time.    

Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 hours ago, TC21 said:

Middlebrooks didn’t throw against Jasper in 07. He threw the day before 

Middlebrook did pitch in the semis.  Zach Fowler, who also was drafted after college, pitched against Jasper.  Zach was the MVP of the State Tournament the year before, and was 11-0 at that point in the season--I think it was.  If memory serves me correctly, his dad was LE coach's at the time.   I also saw where Zach is now the head coach at LE.  

I remember watching Will warm up before the game and was very glad he had pitched the day before..man he could bring it.

That was a special group Jasper had.  I think they hit the ball through their line-up about as good as any team I have witnessed.   This current group is up there as well.

Good luck Dogs.  Hoping to make the Saturday game(s).

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I have only seen this Jasper team once.  If the one game is somewhat representative of this squad I would say the huge difference between 2018 and 2007 was the 2007 team aggressiveness on the base paths.  Then Jasper had runners that literally would sometimes steal all the way to home.  Walk to first, steal second, steal third, and then steal home.  I have never personally seen anyone else do that.  And Taylor Hart did it against a very good Bridge City catcher.

Of course, every team has its own personality, and clearly the 2018 Dogs have their own ways to win games.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Saw last weekends games and saw the tourney run by Shawn's boys.

 If I remember correctly back in 07 Jasper had a bunch of sore arms come late playoff and State Tournament time and they had to drastically change they way they had done things for most of the year to play to a new found strength. That's the sign of great coaching. We've got that again here.

 From what I saw last weekend this Bulldog team was much better than a very good Robinson team. I also saw both games vs Hudson this year. This years group is solid.

Now the above is coming from an old man who now resides in Carthage but the one true difference between the two teams sits on the ring finger of the 07 players and coaches from Jasper.

Hopefully by the end of next week we can call the two teams equal.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Saw that the head baseball coaching job was open at Salado about 2 months ago already. Anyone have any scoop on the situation there? They are a perennial baseball power but it seems that they keep losing coaches. They had a good one leave there about 3 or 4 years ago and then hired a young guy that is now leaving. If anyone has any info, please inform.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

9 hours ago, jeffcoat said:

Saw last weekends games and saw the tourney run by Shawn's boys.

 If I remember correctly back in 07 Jasper had a bunch of sore arms come late playoff and State Tournament time and they had to drastically change they way they had done things for most of the year to play to a new found strength. That's the sign of great coaching. We've got that again here.

 From what I saw last weekend this Bulldog team was much better than a very good Robinson team. I also saw both games vs Hudson this year. This years group is solid.

Now the above is coming from an old man who now resides in Carthage but the one true difference between the two teams sits on the ring finger of the 07 players and coaches from Jasper.

Hopefully by the end of next week we can call the two teams equal.

 

True, Jasper's power throwing pitching "Ace" was limited to playing shortstop.  But the other two starters more than picked up the slack  Of course Jasper scoring 25 runs in two games didn't hurt...

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
  • Member Statistics

    45,937
    Total Members
    1,837
    Most Online
    jacobmartin
    Newest Member
    jacobmartin
    Joined


  • Posts

    • 3 yrs ago LCM and Vidor played in Vidor for a play in game.  Game was on a Saturday and started around 1 or 2p.
    • It would shock me beyond belief if he tried to. Now, I hope and pray he appoints people that will investigate, charge, and imprison anyone found guilty of the crimes against him...including treason. I would be all for a special task force charge solely with the task of investigating crimes against Trump. Of course the Democrats will be screaming bloody murder that Trump is weaponizing the government against them. We all know the story. From a cursory standpoint, there seems to be a plethora of evidence to lock up many Democrats for a long time. Unless this is done, I see no end to destruction of our political system...and this country.
    • There is a difference, but I wouldn't at all put it past Trump to do so if he had the infrastructure in place to get away with it like the Dems currently do.  With the amount of effort he's invested in ruining those republicans who've opposed him, it wouldn't surprise me one bit.
    • I think it will be an interesting case and could potentially come up for appeal on a different constitutional point.  The Supreme Court has ruled in the past that the government doesn’t have to take possession of property in order to take it under the meaning of the Fifth Amendment.  If they take away the enjoyment or use of the property, it is no different than physically seizing it to build a highway for example. In a lawsuit as opposed to a criminal trial, a person/plaintiff doesn’t have to prove something beyond a reasonable doubt but rather by a preponderance of evidence or “more likely” to have happened. Maybe it could be described as more likely yes than no or 51%-49%.  ”IF” it can be shown at a trial by a preponderance of evidence that Texas more likely yes than no caused the flooding with its engineering of the project, the people suing might have a case. But…. Does that alone win the case under the Fifth Amendment taking clause? I am not so sure. In US v Causby the Supreme Court ruled that the US government took a man’s property by flying airplanes over it. It was a public airport lawfully leased by the US in WWII and used to fly heavy bombers from it. Causby had an egg farm and the extremely loud noise of some airplanes under full power and sometimes at night with a landing lights being so close, it bothered and scared the family and damaged his egg farm production. Some chickens died and some quit laying eggs due to the extreme disturbances and lights at night. The Supreme Court ruled in Causby’s favor saying that the US had taken away the enjoyment and use of his land even though they didn’t physically seize it. The use of the land was hampered and that was enough for the taking clause under the Fifth Amendment. So in the IH-10 case, did Texas take away the use or enjoyment of the property?  A point of Causby was that the military bombers at a public airport was certainly for “public use”. The planes were public/taxpayers’ and the airport and lease were taxpayers’ property so the “public” definitely used it   My question in this lawsuit against Texas, even in they can prove the damage, was the damage (like in Causby) for “public use”? If not would it then not be a Fifth Amendment case but rather a state law case?  If Texas law denies such a lawsuit under state sovereignty and the families can’t prove a Fifth Amendment case of “public use”, could they prove the damages but still lose the case under state law? I haven’t read that anywhere and just thinking out loud. I could be way off base. But I think it could be interesting…..
    • Both sides...that is, everyone tries to get their people elected. Trump has not weaponized the government to bankrupt and imprison his political opponents. Night and day difference for me.
  • Topics

×
×
  • Create New...