BRIAN MORGAN NAMED NEW HC AT PORT ARTHUR MEMORIAL

[L-Train11]

8 hours ago, Reagan said:

If Memorial would have dominated their district, say, like WOS does, and constantly challenging for the State Title no one would be calling him anything other than a great coach.  He's had the opportunity and talent to easily win district titles and, again, challenge for State Titles.  But...

Could it be that some of the kids didn’t buy into his system? And that’s why they weren’t as successful as they could be? That can hurt a good coach no matter how hard they try... I don’t know if that was an issue, just something i would like to hear from somebody who knows PAM football.

[WOSgrad]

12 hours ago, Reagan said:

If Memorial would have dominated their district, say, like WOS does, and constantly challenging for the State Title no one would be calling him anything other than a great coach.  He's had the opportunity and talent to easily win district titles and, again, challenge for State Titles.  But...

Perhaps.....but if you look at Memorial's history, the following fact is undeniable.  No coach, even the hallowed Ronnie Thompson, ever took the Titans as far as Kenny Harrison did, despite these coaches having the same level of talent that Harrison had.

That the next head coach may take Memorial "to the next level" is a reasonable hope, but perhaps an unreasonable expectation.

[Go-rilla]

I bet next coach dont stay as long as Kenny did.

[dBerrySports]

It was my opinion that Kenny would have probably left PAM earlier if not for his son being in high school when he was. I will say, I give the school board and school district credit for sticking with him through that rough two-season stretch right at the end of them being in 6A.

Whoever gets the job next will have a ton of talent and a heck of a fan base lol

[Austin1985]

In defense of Xbox(a nickname I coined), only 3 coaches in PA's football history since integration who have reached the state semi-finals:  Thompson, Marler(2), and Kenny Ray

 

That's the list.  In game strategy aside, he's done a great job of getting kids scholarships...... 

[PNG71]

On 2/16/2018 at 3:47 AM, WOSgrad said:

Perhaps.....but if you look at Memorial's history, the following fact is undeniable.  No coach, even the hallowed Ronnie Thompson, ever took the Titans as far as Kenny Harrison did, despite these coaches having the same level of talent that Harrison had.

That the next head coach may take Memorial "to the next level" is a reasonable hope, but perhaps an unreasonable expectation.

First post here so go easy on me. Didn't Ronnie Thompson lose the State title game to Odessa Permian with the double D's?

[Austin1985]

1 hour ago, PNG71 said:

First post here so go easy on me. Didn't Ronnie Thompson lose the State title game to Odessa Permian with the double D's?

He did.  But the 2nd incarnation of Ronnie Thompson was a disaster........

[BMTSoulja1]

22 minutes ago, Austin1985 said:

He did.  But the 2nd incarnation of Ronnie Thompson was a disaster........

The old man that ran 5 receiver sets that set Memorial back 5 years?

[WOSgrad]

2 hours ago, PNG71 said:

First post here so go easy on me. Didn't Ronnie Thompson lose the State title game to Odessa Permian with the double D's?

That was with Port Arthur Jefferson.  As 1985 stated, Thompson's stint at Memorial was less memorable.

Believe me, I am looking forward to a new Memorial coach as much as anyone for I might have a coach there who doesn't feel he is above answering my emails and I won't have a coach's wife who snipes at me by pm when folks on the board pick on her little boy.

However, I think a lot of folks are discounting the results that he had while at Memorial.

[Austin1985]

2 hours ago, BMTSoulja1 said:

The old man that ran 5 receiver sets that set Memorial back 5 years?

yep

[BMTSoulja1]

50 minutes ago, Austin1985 said:

yep

Lord....

[The Icon]

Any chance Larry Neumann comes out of retirement?

[BMTSoulja1]

13 minutes ago, The Icon said:

Any chance Larry Neumann comes out of retirement?

Doubt it...

[outanup]

On 2/19/2018 at 9:20 AM, PNG71 said:

First post here so go easy on me. Didn't Ronnie Thompson lose the State title game to Odessa Permian with the double D's?

RT was a shell of the man. with a shell of the staff or support the 2nd stint. RT was way ahead of the curve in 78 when he roared into PA. His offense was way ahead of the defenses at that time, and the cupboard was FULL. He had a staff, administrative support, athletes, and as a hometown boy the community too. Throw in lots of 2 and 3 yr starters and a system no one had seen. Mix in a load of  Div 1 talent and you know the rest. Folks, timing is everything....

[Austin1985]

14 hours ago, The Icon said:

Any chance Larry Neumann comes out of retirement?

The major plus of having KRH as head coach, he hustle scholarships for his players.  Nuemann was the polar opposite.  So let him stay in retirement, please and thank you

[Bigdog]

On 2/21/2018 at 5:59 AM, Austin1985 said:

The major plus of having KRH as head coach, he hustle scholarships for his players.  Nuemann was the polar opposite.  So let him stay in retirement, please and thank you

Man thats an apples to oranges comparison....

[Austin1985]

3 hours ago, bigdog said:

Man thats an apples to oranges comparison....

Explain

[Bigdog]

22 minutes ago, Austin1985 said:

Explain

Talent wise.  Nederland has some kids every few years or so that are good enough to play in college.  And by and large,  most of them did.  PA sends people every year. So blaming or praising a coach for “getting scholarships “ is kind of silly.  Those kids and their families are doing more of the work on getting the scholarships by uploading videos and social media. But you can only do what you can with what you have.

[LCMAlumtiger32]

8 minutes ago, bigdog said:

Talent wise.  Nederland has some kids every few years or so that are good enough to play in college.  And by and large,  most of them did.  PA sends people every year. So blaming or praising a coach for “getting scholarships “ is kind of silly.  Those kids and their families are doing more of the work on getting the scholarships by uploading videos and social media. But you can only do what you can with what you have.

 

8 minutes ago, bigdog said:

Talent wise.  Nederland has some kids every few years or so that are good enough to play in college.  And by and large,  most of them did.  PA sends people every year. So blaming or praising a coach for “getting scholarships “ is kind of silly.  Those kids and their families are doing more of the work on getting the scholarships by uploading videos and social media. But you can only do what you can with what you have.

I agree, its not the coaches job to find the kid a College to play at. If the kid plays good enough the scout will find them.

[CardinalBacker]

8 minutes ago, LC-M said:

 

I agree, its not the coaches job to find the kid a College to play at. If the kid plays good enough the scout will find them.

I disagree... a coach with good connections to the college level can get a lot of kids looks who wouldn’t normally get a look.... 

Coaches who don’t focus on the recruitment process tend to end up with fewer recruits. 

[Bigdog]

7 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said:

I disagree... a coach with good connections to the college level can get a lot of kids looks who wouldn’t normally get a look.... 

Coaches who don’t focus on the recruitment process tend to end up with fewer recruits. 

If the talent isn’t there they won’t.  That was my point.

[LCMAlumtiger32]

4 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said:

I disagree... a coach with good connections to the college level can get a lot of kids looks who wouldn’t normally get a look.... 

Coaches who don’t focus on the recruitment process tend to end up with fewer recruits. 

 

4 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said:

I disagree... a coach with good connections to the college level can get a lot of kids looks who wouldn’t normally get a look.... 

Coaches who don’t focus on the recruitment process tend to end up with fewer recruits. 

I see your point but your big D1 players imo get recruited by bigger colleges and are scouted like Kyler Murry the kid never lost a varsity game and put up big numbers kind of hard not find him at Allen. I just don't see all the big colleges knowing all the high school coaches unless the scout comes to your school and talks to them.

[Austin1985]

2 quick examples of what I'm talking about.  Old boy who plays for the Patriots(his name escapes me) started at Morgan St.  Ended up at UofH.  I don't know if he gets that shot under Nuemann.  Also, Sage Sei(sp) had to get film from Central and Ozen to get at look from McNeese.  All my Nederland examples come from ex players/parents.  Again, I stand on my original statement for him to stay at home in his rocking chair.  Please and thanks

 

PA send a lot of kids to small colleges and JUCOs.  Nuemann, not so much

[bobbymcgee]

Neumann would be a great choice to come out of retirement and “Coach em up”.. an assistant could serve as recruiting coordinator and keep up the exposure and scholarships that PAM has been doing so well with. 

[Alpha Wolf]

I had a former player of his tell me that "KRH" would occasionally say that the football field was his backyard (being that he is from PA) and that he would never leave his backyard.  So much for that...