NHSBulldogFan Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 7 minutes ago, Brubaker said: Disaster would be they give English the AD and then Barrow and Simmons turn down the HC position without the AD title. Worst of all scenarios and a very real possibility. Can anyone name a one school town that the head football coach is not the Athletic Director in 5A? Proud Dawg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navydawg31 Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 8 minutes ago, NHSBulldogFan said: Can anyone name a one school town that the head football coach is not the Athletic Director in 5A? Ducanville is 6A one school town and she is woman's bball head coach and AD they did pretty great this year too. jake94 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knoddy1 Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 I think they did it at Ozen some years back when their basketball team won state, but there is not anyone doing it in this part of Texas that I know of, and I don't think any of them would even consider it....this is Texas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHSBulldogFan Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 4 minutes ago, navydawg31 said: Ducanville is 6A one school town and she is woman's bball head coach and AD they did pretty great this year too. Actually she's stepping down as athletic director This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navydawg31 Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, Knoddy1 said: I think they did it at Ozen some years back when their basketball team won state, but there is not anyone doing it in this part of Texas that I know of, and I don't think any of them would even consider it....this is Texas Ozen is part of BISD that is a three high school district. So all the coaches in Beaumont did not have one including Stump a few years back and Flannigan and Foreman that just left. And all the other great coaches BISD has had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOSgrad Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Nederland ISD board will have a special meeting Monday to discuss open head football coach/AD position. Not clear if open sess. will follow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake94 Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 46 minutes ago, Brubaker said: Disaster would be they give English the AD and then Barrow and Simmons turn down the HC position without the AD title. Worst of all scenarios and a very real possibility. There should be enough money with Neumann stepping down to give English a raise and keep him around, he certainly deserves a raise since he's been to our basketball program what Neumann has been to our football program. Also, the head football coach will be getting a raise if it's Barrow and I don't think he'd decline the HC job and bump in pay even if he isn't the AD. I'm not sure Simmons would take the job without the AD position, but I think it would be an all or nothing offer if he is who we have our eye on. I still don't see that happening. I do, however, think many of you are overreacting about our program going into the doldrums if a football guy isn't the AD. If Brian gets AD, there's a 99 percent chance that Barrow is the other side of that hire as HC. And, if Barrow is the best man for the job, then he will be here a long time and be successful. I'd like to see us find a way to keep both and I don't really care who the AD is. Just want to see all our sports programs succeed and pay these guys accordingly. I think any of the candidates will do an awesome job and will be an improvement when it comes to the AD duties( the duties of AD, not wins and losses). Honest Abe, JoeBuck111 and team first 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOSgrad Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Just confirmed: Vote for new head coach/AD will be held in open session shortly after closed meeting. JoeBuck111 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHSBulldogFan Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 5 minutes ago, WOSgrad said: This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Just confirmed: Vote for new head coach/AD will be held in open session shortly after closed meeting. Let the fun begin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHSBulldogFan Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 The wording that NISD is using leads me to believe the position of head coach and athletic director will not be split up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOSgrad Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 19 minutes ago, NHSBulldogFan said: The wording that NISD is using leads me to believe the position of head coach and athletic director will not be split up Well, just a word of caution on that, those words are I.C.'s not the Nederland ISD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHSBulldogFan Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 1 minute ago, WOSgrad said: Well, just a word of caution on that, those words are I.C.'s not the Nederland ISD well here's Nederland ISD's words This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOSgrad Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Fair enough NHSBulldogFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knoddy1 Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 I'll be hanging around outside selling popcorn NHSBulldogFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Nederlander Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 6 hours ago, Brubaker said: Disaster would be they give English the AD and then Barrow and Simmons turn down the HC position without the AD title. Worst of all scenarios and a very real possibility. You do realize that they are not going to fill one without filling the other? No way they announce that and get the board to vote unless they have coordinated with the person or people that they are going to hire. Plus, it is not going to be the end of Western civilization if the AD and HC is split. Some of these people predicting the demise of the program and the entire community if this happens is utterly mind numbing. Monte has no one to blame for this but himself if he is not AD and HC come Monday. He has had years to get his Masters Degree and if he had, we wouldn't even be having this discussion. (And I happen to think that Monte will be a very good HC if he gets the job.) To say that Brian English would destroy the football program if he was to be named AD is ridiculous and borderline offensive. Applying that logic, I would assume that all head football coaches that are also AD's are out to destroy all other programs. Honest Abe, navydawg31, team first and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brubaker Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 You dont read well, I didnt say it would be a disaster if English were the AD. I said it would be a disaster if he was AD and Barrow and Simmons declined... please read more closely. jake94 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Nederlander Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 19 minutes ago, Brubaker said: You dont read well, I didnt say it would be a disaster if English were the AD. I said it would be a disaster if he was AD and Barrow and Simmons declined... please read more closely. And, I guess your comprehension skills were lacking in the first paragraph where I said the board and supt will not split the hires like you fear so much. They are not going to allow that to happen. The paragraphs after that were not necessarily directed at you. jake94 and NHSBulldogFan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knoddy1 Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 No one on this board has ever implied that Brian English would destroy the football program, the point made was it is the biggest game in town and the AD tag on the HC position is a way to offer more money to a football coach, if not now down the road after he has proven himself (as they did Larry Neumann) or if the HC does not work out you would not have this tool to bring in the best possible applicant, because some just would not be interested in coaching football here if the AD was not included. Brian is young and should he be picked for the AD, and the football program were to go south it probably would stay south for a long time. Anyway we will know soon enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chorizo Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 People can talk all day long about this but bottom line is,if monte doesn't get it I see doom for this football program!!i see coaches and players leaving.. bigned85 and Proud Dawg 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHSBulldogFan Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 15 minutes ago, chorizo said: People can talk all day long about this but bottom line is,if monte doesn't get it I see doom for this football program!!i see coaches and players leaving.. Disagree totally Nederland football will be fine either under Simmons or Barrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOSgrad Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 41 minutes ago, chorizo said: People can talk all day long about this but bottom line is,if monte doesn't get it I see doom for this football program!!i see coaches and players leaving.. If this program is doomed without Barrow, it will be because of attitudes like this. navydawg31, Honest Abe and jake94 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHSBulldogFan Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 13 minutes ago, WOSgrad said: If this program is doomed without Barrow, it will be because of attitudes like this. All the talk of doom is nonsense. Either coach will do fine. jake94 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoneblock Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 With no dog in the fight how many towns with one high school have an AD other than the football coach are successful year in and year out in football in this area outanup 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team first Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 How many teams are successful year in and year out other than wos ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennisbc Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 6 minutes ago, team first said: How many teams are successful year in and year out other than wos ? It depends on that teams definition of success. Just having a winning season every year or just making the playoffs is a win for that team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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