CardinalBacker

I think you’re missing my point- I also believe the prosecution is a mistake, but that’s not the point. I’m confused that Conservative Christian Right-wing Republican straight white American male family first Trump voters are ignoring the fact that Trump did, in fact, do that awful thing…. But are instead focused on the fact that he’s being accused of covering it up. There’s obviously no decency or morality in MAGA. But they still believe themselves to be exactly that… the side of decency and morality. It would be funny if the stakes weren’t so high.

Here’s the thing. I keep dropping facts on you, and you keep on knee-jerk saying “all lies!” I’ve asked you multiple times to point out whatever I’ve said that is factually wrong…but you can’t. You might not like the facts, and they might make your eyes sweat a little… but it doesn’t change the fact that they are as true. Heck, deep down inside you might even know that Ol’ CB is right, but you believe Trump isn’t to blame. That, sir, does not turn the truth into a lie. What you should have said was is “that may be true, but I’m giving Trump a pass because…” Not “that’s a lie” when the numbers don’t lie. But for you and everyone that believes Trump was good for the economy, I’ll give another of my beloved and informative analogies that might help you finally understand. A man handles his Family’s finances. He makes a decision that life could be better, so he’s like “this is our year!” He stops all contributions to retirement accounts (cuts taxes) then proceeds to book a trip to Disney, buys nice things for the family and maxes out all possible lines of credit…. Now they’re facing bankruptcy. The kids (y’all) are now arguing “things were so much better when Dad (Trump, also your Daddy) was in charge! We had nice things!” The man set us on a course for ruin with deficit spending, then it accelerated with COVID, then he was such a pig that Biden got elected, and now we’re facing another “anybody but Trump” loss in the November, guaranteeing four more years of nonsense from which we’ll probably never recover. The debt is just insurmountable. We shouldn’t be surprised, either. Trump has always been a “borrow as much as we can and pray (errrr, hope….not pray. I’m pretty sure he doesn’t do a lot of that) that it all works out” as evidenced by his businesses which have repeatedly bankrupted.

Do you understand what you read? Or did you even try to read it? Trump added almost as much debt in four years as Obama added in eight, and you’re proud of that fact? Before you can say “COVID,” I’ll say “housing crisis of 2008.”

Wrong again. [Hidden Content] The day that Trump took office, our nation debt stood at 19.9 Trillion dollars (End of Q4, 2016). After his tax cuts (without corresponding cuts in spending), the national debt stood at 23.2 Trillion dollars at the end of Q1 of 2020 that was the Start of COVID, FYI... Or a total increase in debt of almost 17% during Trump's first three years (and one quarter) in office. At the end of his reign (with COVID spending for which Trump himself signed off on) was at 27.7 Trillion Dollars. That's a 39% increase in the National Debt while Trump was in office. For further reference, Biden inherited a 27.7 Trillion dollar debt to start. At the end of Q4 2023, the debt stands at 34 Trillion. That's an increase of 19% over the first three years. I know that math and facts hurt your feelings, but Trump was horrible for the country before he allowed "them Dirty Democrats to shut down the economy." Anybody that says "Trump was good for the country" doesn't know the first thing about micro/macro economics or the effects of deficit spending. Trump hurt us like no other president, period. Anybody that says "Trump was good for the economy" is actually stating for the rest of us with some sense "I don't know what I'm talking about."

I disagree. I agree that the left is sorry... I just believe that at this point, the right is sorrier. Biden wins bigly again. Mark it down.

Here's more garbage from Biden... this will be catastrophic for businesses and investors. This should not happen. [Hidden Content] And to head it off, the Rs nominated someone who's already proven that he can't beat Biden in the general election. You tell me who's dumber... the people that keep electing Biden, or the people who won't nominate someone who can beat Biden? Combine that with the fact that MAGAs in the House are preparing to oust another speaker (which proves that the Rs have no business leading in the House), and it's all but certain that the Dems will hold the Presidency and both houses of Congress after 2024. But the people who keep nominating and electing R candidates who can't win complain that the other side is dumb.

Back up..... where's the lie? Please point out which of the facts that I stated are untrue? There are three facts that I stated. Which of them is untrue? Fact: The debt and spending exploded under Trump, even prior to COVID. Fact: unemployment was higher at the end of Trump’s term was higher than when he started. Fact: The stock market was down substantially on the day Trump left office than when he took office. Just because the facts contradict your beliefs doesn't make them lies.

He’s the thing in a nutshell: I can’t even watch Pornhub in Texas anymore because republicans are so opposed to pornography. But they’re trying to elect a guy who’s on trial for trying to cover up the fact that he was banging a porn star on the side while his wife was carrying their child. Oh, and the wife’s nudes are also available online. But the Dems are immoral? Gimme a break.

Everybody has heard the question: “Do you know the definition of insanity? It’s repeating the same thing over and over and expecting different results.” Yall: “That doesn’t apply to Trump! Biden is an idiot!” Wokay. “It doesn’t matter how many times you read the same book… the ending isn’t going to change.” Yall: “OH, YES IT IS!!! Trump’s got this!!!”

Yall literally just nominated the same guy who got beat four years ago to run against the guy who handed out the whuppin’ four years ago. That’s textbook “running it back,” bro.

Your on your own with this one, sister… MJ did that, lol.

Clinton didn’t get in trouble for doing it… he got in trouble for lying about it during the federal investigation. Trump’s not on trial for having an affair with a porn star…. He’s on trial for falsifying financial documents to hide the fact that he paid her off. My point is “why are y’all still supporting a man of obvious poor ethics and bad character to lead us” and your response is “because things like that don’t matter.” Actually, it’s more like “they do it, too!” We used to be the party of values, but not anymore.

I don’t disagree that Biden is a really, really weak president… he was a terrible candidate, too. But he still thumped Trump. And y’all want to run it back. It’s insane.

When I was kid, they taught us right and wrong. Your message is “wrong isn’t really wrong if everybody else is doing it, too.” That’s not Christian, plain and simple.

Fact: The debt and spending exploded under Trump, even prior to COVID. Fact: unemployment was higher at the end of Trump’s term was higher than when he started. Fact: The stock market was down substantially on the day Trump left office than when he took office. If you want to excuse his failures, that’s okay… but to pretend they never happened is foolish. Personally? If you believe that COVID was a democrat conspiracy, etc… why did Trump allow it to happen on his watch? And is he going to let it happen again?

First off, my words are as true as those of St John the Revelator. I might have said some things that you don’t believe, but those are all facts, not lies. Easily proven. Which part was dishonest?

First off, my words are as true as those of St John the Revelator. I might have said some things that you don’t believe, but those are all facts, not lies. Easily proven. Which part was dishonest?

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When you say America is headed down the wrong path, I agree. The Christians are overlooking Trump’s character flaws and misbehavior…. Hardcore fiscal conservatives are supporting him despite the fact that he ran our debt to the moon during his administration and the job market and stock market both cratered. Trump himself isn’t disputing the fact that he cheated on his wife with a porn star… and y’all are all like “so what?” Proven rapist, etc, etc… just today Trump’s operatives at the Enquirer admitted that the story about Ted Cruz’s Dad and Castro was 100% false. Don’t say anything about the Dems lying about Russian collusion Trump was doing it to fellow Repubs. Who would have ever believed that one day there’d be nudes of the First Lady all over the Internet? Even if somebody said “yeah, I can imagine that happening one day,” I wouldn’t have dreamed that candidate would be a Republican. Straight up dirtbag, and it’s all still okay to MAGA. It’s a shame, I tell you.

That there’s not a single thread on the fact that the Republican nominee is on trial for paying off a porn star with whom he had an affair while the future First Lady was carrying said nominee’s child. I remember back when the dirty, no-good Dems sacked Gary Hart over something similar. Same thing with John Edwards and later Anthony Weiner. But y’all keep pretending God is on your side, lol.

I hear what you’re saying, BUT… that hammers the hell out of poor people and the ones with multiple properties don’t eat any more than the poor ones. In fact, you’d basically just be taxing a lot of peoples’ EBT payments. The government can’t get ahead by taxing what they’re already borrowing to give to people. I think well off people should pay more… but the scale as it exists is broken. For the sake of argument, my mom’s house in Groves is valued at $125k. 2/1/1 on a slab. Her tax bill is $850/year. Without exemptions, her bill would be 3200. It’s right on JCAD’s website. The problem is this…. If someone tries to rent out an identical house, they’d expect to get, what… $1200/month? If you take into account that homeowners/windstorm/flood is a minimum of another $2k per year, you’d need $5k a year just to cover the taxes and insurance. That’s four months (1/3 of the year) just to cover those costs, not counting a potential mortgage payment. But then everybody cries about how expensive rents are… you can’t tax the hell out of non-homestead property to make up for gifts given to homeowners in the form of big tax cuts. It just doesn’t work. Ten acres in Lumberton? I’ve got a buddy with 10 acres in Lumberton on HWY 69. Prime property… it’s his retirement plan. Sale it one day and cash in. The CAD decided that it no longer qualifies for a special use valuation (timber) and stripped his “exemption.” His 2023 tax bill jumped from $25 to $22,000…. It’s insane.

Seniors already get a healthy break on their property tax bill (in addition to their homestead exemption) upon turning 65. They can also defer payment of their taxes… but the bills will still pile up with late fees, etc… they just don’t have to pay for now-it will get paid eventually, though. The “I don’t even have kids in school” argument is a dumb one. How about the “I don’t live on a county road, I shouldn’t pay county road and bridge taxes?” Nobody says “I’ve never had a house fire… I shouldn’t have to pay for an emergency services district, either.” The average cost to educate a student in Texas is running about $10k per year. That amount should need some justification, but that’s a different argument. BUT it would cost a family with three kids $30k a year for education if only the people with kids in school paid for education, and nobody can afford that. The latest round of tax relief focused heavily on property with homestead exemptions and ignored non-exempt properties (think second homes, rent houses, commercial property, etc…) that might win votes, but it hurts a lot of people and businesses. When the burden gets shifted from one group to another, there will be repercussions such as higher rental rates, etc. If you want to affect change, attack spending at large… don’t focus on trying to get out of paying for yourself and shoving the responsibility of paying onto others is what I always preach.

They call it “merchandising the lie.” An operative (from any party) plants a blatantly false allegation to some shady “news” source. When that shady news source then does what media outlets do, the person that initially planted the rumor points at the story and says “sources are reporting (that thing I made up). And you lap it up if it supports your belief that the election was stolen. To be honest, this was the biggest problem with the campaign to stop the will of the people in 2020. You had people making stuff up, the underground “media” running forward with these lies, then actual figureheads (Rudy, Trump himself, Windell, etc) repeating these blatant lies as truth… when they were easily disproven it just weakened any potential case, not helped, and it’s landed people in jail. Unfortunately, some low information supporters STILL refuse to accept the truth. There was no widespread election fraud in 2020… but they’ll stay online all day looking for articles “that big media ignores” and forward them around on social media with taglines like “what say you?!!” You didn’t just find the golden key to turn back time on some obscure Twitter feed… you just found somebody else lying to get likes/shares. The thing nobody wants to explain is this… IF cheating put Biden in the White House and nothing has been done to fix the problem, why is 2024 going to be any different? It won’t, because 3/4 of America hates Donald Trump, but the other quarter is really committed.

Well, as always, you’re completely wrong. There were 168 million registered voters in 2020. Do more than copy/paste. [Hidden Content] Table one…. But I’m sure you won’t believe it because it’s not some right wing nut job with no sourcing throwing the information out-THOSE guys you believe, lol. All they need to do is make a meme with something about election interference and you’re like “See?!!! PROOF!!!” Y’all are making people rich by buying their lies.

It’s been explained over and over, you just can’t handle the truth. They’re running it back and Trump will lose bigly… again. Reading the same book twice won’t change the ending. Biden wins a cakewalk in 2024.